Second miss of the year today, and once again... right over the back. I read the Fred Eichler article in TBM and read the recent thread about it here on trad gang. So today I really focused on the lower third.... still just high! But it was just as Fred said.... I didn't miss, she dropped a full body width right before my arrow reached her!
Check it out, I videoed it this time. 21 yard shot. btw... one vain of my arrow had blood on it, so I just skimmed her back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyF2ynf33F0&feature=plcp
Them critters be fast!
Stopping a deer has only worked out a few times for me. I would rather shoot on a slow walk than stop them.
Stopping them, put's them on alert. A wired whitetail is hard to hit. I prefer to shoot at them walking.
Keep after them Tim! Looks to me she was traveling at a pretty good clip, not sure you had any option other than trying to stop her! Lots of season left.
I don't know about OK but when shooting a Texas deer I look at the bottom hair line and usually center punch the lungs.
Mike
I feel your pain! :(
I think they are very similar to Texas Deer Wingnut.
Happened to me more than once.I seen a vid of a fellow shooting a wheel bow at a doe and she ducked down and was headed the other way as the arrow went over her back.
Wow.... That's incredible! That deers tail was down too. Typically that's a green light on a deer. tail up is full alert.
i watched that film a dozen times and finally got it stopped right at the release and caught the arrow half way to the deer before it had even moved. then i brought the film forward one frame at a time as the deer ducked that arrow....
I think I'd be inclined to come back for that one with a smoke pole..... speedy Gonzales deer right there....LOL
You need to half your distance and shoot low to get that one with a bow..... incredible!
Man that was fast. Reminded me of my wife going somewhere with my credit card.
Thats how it been going for me. Had a doe tonight that was on edge. If she was a little closer, I might have shot but when they are that wired, I pass.
What Shadman said. You "cocked" that deer when you made the grunt and the bow just released her spring. She was probably watching you as you released.
On the other hand, a moving shot at 21 yards would have been iffy at best, especially if she bolted.
Speed don't kill, but slow don't kill even later. :biglaugh:
messes with your brain, doesn't it.
http://youtu.be/Pqnb-HpKRXE
Here is a doe I shot earlier this year, near the end of the video I show the first shot in slow motion and you can see how much she drops. They are amazingly fast animals.
I dont even think it went over her back it looks like she wasnt there when the arrow was LOL! been there done that a few times.
QuoteOriginally posted by shadman:
Stopping them, put's them on alert. A wired whitetail is hard to hit. I prefer to shoot at them walking.
Yeah, I know that is ideal, but the last time I tried to shoot a walking deer I missed and I just felt like I never really picked a spot. I need to practice the walking shot.
QuoteOriginally posted by wingnut:
I don't know about OK but when shooting a Texas deer I look at the bottom hair line and usually center punch the lungs.
Mike
And with this deer I think a foot below the hairline would have been about right! ;)
By the way Mike, my son is looking forward to that Phoenix lite you are building for him!
That sort of thing has happened to me more times than I care to remember. It's part of what makes whitetail hunting so difficult.
Allan
I feel your pain, I had the same thing happen to me on a huge buck 2 days ago :(
She was nervous before. The way she came inn... fast, ears turning... head and body were ready... than you made sounds...
Tsalt, I feel your pain. I missed the same stinkin' doe yesterday evening and this evening. Same situation as you, she jumped the string both times! I will aim at the ground if I get another chance at her. She looked mighty tasty.
I just watched that video 10 times and can't see that arrow going over that doe. It almost looks to me like she was wheeling to the left and the arrow skimmed down her side. Anybody else see this?
Keep after them and it will happen.
Bisch
I try and not stop the deer unless there going fast, on a deer that looks like it may drop , shoot at the bottom of them , I have aimed below them and had them drop into the kill zone,, keep trying it will happen ,,
QuoteOriginally posted by Bisch:
I just watched that video 10 times and can't see that arrow going over that doe. It almost looks to me like she was wheeling to the left and the arrow skimmed down her side. Anybody else see this?
Keep after them and it will happen.
Bisch
Bisch, it does look like that at full speed, but if you can change the settings on your YouTube player to HD and then move it forward frame by frame, You can see my white fetching headed right for her vitals. At the last mili-second she drops and whirls left, the arrow skims her back above her shoulder.
Hey I shot a doe this weekend. Was perfectly broadside, head up but eating and didnt seem alarmed... just chewing :) . When I let the arrow fly, she wheeled toward me and my bout to be well placed arrow headed right for the crease... quickly became a gut shot.
I have never had one wheel toward the shot before, they always duck and turn away in my past experiences. Those shots usually end up heart shots, possibly with no exit wound due to the more forward placement if they wheel like that, but still I usually watch them drop.
Dave
Dave that is crazy that she turned towards you! They are amazingly quick creatures!
I think we all have been frustrated by those quick critters a time or two.
Tell me about it. I have only seen that happen one other time on a hunting video that I bought back in my wheels days... it was an elk shot by one of the Primos dudes... thought it was crazy as heck back then too, and still amazes me that an animal that big could move so fast. Deer, wow... but elk, holy cow.
Dave