Hey all,
I made a mistake and had my arrows cut too short. Now it seems the arrow is too stiff in flight and slow as well. I'm also getting more noise and hand shock than anticipated. I have put more weight up front, 225 gains, in order to help solve this problem but no luck.
Does anyone have any solutions, aside from buying more arrows, to correct the problems created when an arrow is too short?
They are Gold Tip Carbons 5575. Cut to 29.5 inches. 100 grains of weight inserts. 125 grain field tip. The bow is a 53# longbow.
Thanks in advance
Add more weight, change your brace height.
Classifieds.
Personally I'd go with 35/55s in a 53# longbow but I'm not sure what weight arrow you're looking for....
If you aren't using one now, a skinny string will tend to weaken your current shafts a bit.
What is your draw length? I shoot full length 3555's w/ 100 gr brass inserts and 150 gr Stingers out of my 56# longbow and get awesome flight. I only draw 27" though.
Put them up for trade in the classifieds.
Agree with Big Ed.
But, if that's not something you want to do yet, try increasing to a 200 or 250 gr. tip.
That should put you pretty close.
I shot almost the same setup out of my 53# but with 275 total up front.
What were you shooting out of it before?
It takes an aweful lot of weight to make up for just a little too short. Best bet is the classifieds.
With Big Ed on this one too. I shoot 5575's and minor length changes stiffen them up pretty quick. They tolerate alot of weight up front without changing spine much.
More weight, higher brace, thiner side plate, 8 strand string.
James
Like others I've shot 35-55 out of heavier bows with 275 gr. Many shoot 29.5" arras so the classifieds may help if you are willing to take a slight loss. Before getting rid of them try going up 50 to 75 more grains the 55/75 can handle it. Try not to get too caught up with your apparent velocity loss as good flight is gonna feel good when you get there! Best wishes.
Ya I'd say try some 35/55's. My Centaur is 50#28 and I draw just about 28. I can get 29" 55/75's to shoot but I had to put 350gr up front and its just a way heavier arrow than I want.
My Centaur is a couple years old and is not quite cut to center like the newer ones. The 35/55's are flying great for me at 29" with about 250gr up front and they weight in at 565gr, which is about what I like.
Correct me if I am wrong but the 55/77's are a .400 spine. If that is the case try adding about 50 grains to your point weight. It should bring them in pretty close.
Not trying to be a jerk, because I know you've crossed the bridge already, but why cut your arrows? It has always seemed unnecessary step to me.
All,
Thanks for the insight! I'll try adding more weight up front and adjusting the brace height. If that doesn't work I'll try the classifieds.
I'm curious how much heavier I would have to go in draw weight in order for the 5575's to be the ideal arrow? 60# maybe?
You all are a big help- Thanks!
I did the same thing before I added weight tubes to the arrow and then played with the weight up front. Every thing worked out fine and even made the bow quieter. Don
Going up in bow weight has an impact as does making the sidewall as thin as possible; each 1/16 of sidewall is about 5# of spine.
QuoteOriginally posted by pznuts:
Not trying to be a jerk, because I know you've crossed the bridge already, but why cut your arrows? It has always seemed unnecessary step to me.
Most do it to tune the arrow to the bow. Some overdo it a little or shooting style changes.
QuoteOriginally posted by pznuts:
Not trying to be a jerk, because I know you've crossed the bridge already, but why cut your arrows? It has always seemed unnecessary step to me.
Just trying to tune to bow and thought that the arrows would fly better being cut to my length. Just over did it.
Still learning...
QuoteOriginally posted by Bjorn:
Going up in bow weight has an impact as does making the sidewall as thin as possible; each 1/16 of sidewall is about 5# of spine.
What draw weight do you think would handle 5575's cut to 29.5"?
Order an arrow stretcher from 3Rivers. :biglaugh:
QuoteOriginally posted by pznuts:
Not trying to be a jerk, because I know you've crossed the bridge already, but why cut your arrows? It has always seemed unnecessary step to me.
Please explain that one to me :confused:
John ... PM me, I have more arrows than twenty guys can shoot and if you are near the Seattle area I will be glad to help you get back on track. When shooting trad gear your don't want to go heavy on spine right out of the box ... i.e., 53# bow and 55/75 arrows. Works for POC but not carbon. Contact me, i will help you :archer2:
Best to ya, Ken
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Originally posted by elkken:
John ... PM me, I have more arrows than twenty guys can shoot and if you are near the Seattle area I will be glad to help you get back on track. When shooting trad gear your don't want to go heavy on spine right out of the box ... i.e., 53# bow and 55/75 arrows. Works for POC but not carbon. Contact me, i will help you :clapper:
QuoteOriginally posted by elkken:
John ... PM me, I have more arrows than twenty guys can shoot and if you are near the Seattle area I will be glad to help you get back on track. When shooting trad gear your don't want to go heavy on spine right out of the box ... i.e., 53# bow and 55/75 arrows. Works for POC but not carbon. Contact me, i will help you :archer2:
Best to ya, Ken
Ken,
I had a much 48# Morrison recurve, cut 3/16 past center...dang thing takes a very stiff arrow --carbon or other...was shooting 80# spine tapered RRA cedars at one time... finally settled on 55/75, heavy points and even had to shim out the side plate some to get the overall weight I wanted.
I found, that center cut makes as much difference, depending on limb design and materials used, as draw weight in my experiments the past 20 yrs or so... fwiw.
One thing for certain, John, Ken will indeed help you and be of strong help. Just adding another view to that one point there... Center cut of riser has a big influence as does limb design.
My 47# Sasquatch I got this early fall required me to go from 400 spine to 340! Not IBO legal LB with that reflect/deflex design...but it smokes.
Me likey! :)