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Title: thank God for Permethrine!!!!!!
Post by: adkmountainken on October 26, 2012, 02:41:00 PM
WOW are the ticks BAD right now!!! took a friend to a spot by my house and WARNED him about the ticks. well he said he was not worried, never had a problem, i tld him treat his clothers any way. he didn't, BAD idea!!! mine are all treated with a HEAVY dose of Permethrine which is the only thing i have found to work %100 so far. well long story short, we jumped in his truck after hunting and he looked like a bobcat in a phone booth with a red hot poker.... well you know. he was COVERED and i mean COVERED!!!!! had to be well over 100 or more on his clothes. NOTHING on me. lesson learned ehh!!!
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Post by: Wolfkiss on October 26, 2012, 02:45:00 PM
Sends a shiver up my back!  He's learned a lesson, nothing quite like experience.
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Post by: adkmountainken on October 26, 2012, 02:48:00 PM
yaaaaaaaa! first time i scouted that area last year i was out for 3 hours, had 13 embedded on me!   :scared:    :mad:    :eek:    :banghead:
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Post by: Ric O'Shay on October 26, 2012, 02:52:00 PM
Been using that stuff for a few years now. Just be sure to treat your clothes BEFORE you put them on and let them dry in an open area.
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Post by: maxwell on October 26, 2012, 04:25:00 PM
where do you get this stuff
for your cloths
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Post by: Rob W. on October 26, 2012, 04:37:00 PM
The stuff just flat works! Haven't had a tick since I started using it. Has made my camping and early season hunting soooo much more enjoyable.

I buy mine in a concentrate at the local Rural King and mix accordingly depending on application.
Title: Re: thank God for Permethrine!!!!!!
Post by: adkmountainken on October 26, 2012, 04:50:00 PM
Dicks sporting goods sells it. i have tried MANY different things and its the ONLY one that works!
Title: Re: thank God for Permethrine!!!!!!
Post by: on October 26, 2012, 05:10:00 PM
The first time I used it was on a canoe trip in Canada. I couldn't read the label, but I knew that I did not want it on my skin, so I sprayed it on my clothes and just a little on my dog's back.  The first canoe trip that nobody had any ticks. The first time I used it turkey hunting was the next spring, this time I followed the directions. A turkey was up the hill from me and a tick was walking up my pant leg.  The tick got to about my pocket stopped and then fell on the dirt, stone dead. Permethrine is dangerous, and to think it is the active ingredient in that stuff I streak down my dog's back for fleas and ticks. Why is it okay to dip a dog in it for fleas and humans have to make certain it is dry before they put their clothes on?  My vet did have a good answer, as in none.
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Post by: ChrisM on October 26, 2012, 05:14:00 PM
The only thing that fire ants have done for Texas is they nocked tick populations way back.  Of course also:  Quail, deer, turkey, rabbits, and anything that the very young are on the ground.
Title: Re: thank God for Permethrine!!!!!!
Post by: WidowEater on October 26, 2012, 05:32:00 PM
You can get it in a quart quantity of 33% permethrin from pest control supply houses.  This is the most economical way to buy it I think.  Unless you want a gallon.  That may be what I buy next time.

I treat my house outside and some places inside like my dogs bedding and crate.  Treat all my work clothes every so often because I am outside a lot and it repels ticks, mosquitos, and the biting gnats we have here.
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Post by: Shedrock on October 26, 2012, 05:36:00 PM
I am really liking this 10" of snow and mid twenties temps right now.  :D  You can have your ticks   :p
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Post by: moleman on October 26, 2012, 06:21:00 PM
Used this yr for the first time, not a single tick to be found on me or my clothes.
Great stuff!
Maxwell, i purchased mine at wal-mart
Title: Re: thank God for Permethrine!!!!!!
Post by: Hopewell Tom on October 26, 2012, 07:00:00 PM
No snow yet, but cold enough here too.
We had a few here since the spring, like 3.
Feeling pretty lucky...
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Post by: fujimo on October 26, 2012, 07:37:00 PM
what are these"tick" things ya'all talk 'bout  :D
Title: Re: thank God for Permethrine!!!!!!
Post by: kbaknife on October 26, 2012, 08:25:00 PM
Peremethrin is awesome.
Here's some good reading, and it should put some of your concerns and worries to rest.
Just use according to precautions.

 http://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/profiles/extoxnet/metiram-propoxur/permethrin-ext.html

This is an important quote:

Pyrethrins are efficiently metabolized by mammalian livers (11). Breakdown products, or 'metabolites,' of permethrin are quickly excreted and do not persist significantly in body tissues (8). There are no methods for identifying metabolites in the urine (11). When permethrin is administered orally to rats, it is rapidly metabolized and almost completely eliminated from the body in a few days. Only three to six percent of the original dose was excreted unchanged in the feces of experimental animals (14). Permethrin may persist in fatty tissues, with half-lives of 4 to 5 days in brain and body fat (22). Pyrethroids do not block, or inhibit, cholinesterase enzymes (11).
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Post by: maxwell on October 26, 2012, 08:34:00 PM
Thanks for the info on where to purchase.
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Post by: Phrogdrvr on October 26, 2012, 09:18:00 PM
Before certain deployments, we did a mass permethrin soaking of all our Marine's utility uniforms.  We were strictly warned to not touch the stuff with bare skin- uniforms had to be completely dried and aired out before we got them reissued to us.

The stuff does work though.

Tom
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Post by: Tall Paul on October 26, 2012, 09:19:00 PM
The product you buy and mix for livestock, is a different formulation than that sold to put on your clothing.

There is another recent thread on here about this.

I am very leery of exposure to chemicals that can kill anything that quickly.
Title: Re: thank God for Permethrine!!!!!!
Post by: Sam McMichael on October 26, 2012, 09:40:00 PM
It is absolutely essential. I do not go to the woods at all without it. I spray my clothes inside and out the night before a hunt and have no problems. The risks from exposure to these chemicals, in my opinion, are far less than the risk of lyme disease, Rocky Mountain Spotted Fecer, etc.
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Post by: DC on October 26, 2012, 10:13:00 PM
Ticks are bad news. I got sick from bites last year about this time and I thought I was dying. The doctor never said I had lyme disease but I sure had all of the symptoms. I was treated with a heavy dose of antibiotics. I later read an article about deer fly fever/rabbit fever and it causes similar symptoms. Be careful. I now use permethrine too.
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Post by: Izzy on October 27, 2012, 11:39:00 AM
I took a walk in the Pine Bush this morning during work and got covered up, even on a sandy trail. They are nasty.
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Post by: WidowEater on October 27, 2012, 03:45:00 PM
Even though GA gets a real bad rap for ticks, I only have to deal with them infrequently where I work.  

For awhile I wondered why I did not have many around my house as it buts up to 40 or so acres of woods.  A bit later I had someone come out to do a termite inspection on my house.  The technician said since my house is over 100 years old it is possible the house was treated with DDT in the past.  He took a few samples and about a month later confirmed there were still traces of DDT in the soil around my house and yard.  Not high enough to be alarmed about though.  Apparently it has a half life of around 15 years when in the soil and the soil samples were taken from right where it would have been used to control termites.  It is conceivable the house was treated more than once as well and that can cause the half life to slow down considerably.

Maybe it keeps ticks away too.
Title: Re: thank God for Permethrine!!!!!!
Post by: Sam McMichael on October 28, 2012, 02:38:00 PM
I met a guy yesterday who just moved to Goergia from Ohio and was asking about the public hunting in Middle Georgia. I was pleased to talk to him about it, but in the course of the conversation I mentioned the need for permethrin. He had never heard of it, so I described the need for it. Sure hope he listened.
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Post by: RedShaft on October 28, 2012, 02:47:00 PM
typical day around my area here in pa. been like that for the last 4 years. its terrible. never even seen a tick till then. i have a special hatred toward them. as my dog has lymes disease.
Title: Re: thank God for Permethrine!!!!!!
Post by: adkmountainken on October 28, 2012, 03:31:00 PM
was out for awhile today, watched as a million were crawling on my pants and would just fall right off, just sprayed my clothes again.
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Post by: ron w on October 28, 2012, 05:23:00 PM
How come I'm not seeing any ticks.....not that I want to. I'm hunting close to Ken....just a few miles apart and have been in the Delmar area 4 times and haven't seen one....thank God!
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Post by: b.glass on October 29, 2012, 07:12:00 AM
I watched a PBS show about "The Ice Man" and they were able to find out that he had had lime disease. Ain't that sumthin.
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Post by: Eugene Slagle on October 29, 2012, 07:59:00 AM
I've been lucky for many years with using products that had Deet in it but that is getting hard to find & I need to get some of this Permethrin for my & my kids cloths for when we go out hiking, Geocaching & shooting & definitly when I'm hunting.
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Post by: Sam McMichael on October 29, 2012, 09:37:00 PM
Eugene, I have had very poor succes with Deet protecting me from ticks - they seem to use it as dipping sauce. I'm glad it has worked for you, but I do recommend the permethrin. It kills as opposed to just repelling them.