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Title: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: JLyle on October 19, 2012, 01:14:00 AM
I found these in an antique store and got 'em cheap. They look typical...just tiny. Less than 9" from button to tip and main beams as thick as my pinkie finger. I was curious what your thoughts would be about 'em.
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g422/JLyle777/LittleRack3.jpg)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g422/JLyle777/littlerack1.jpg)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g422/JLyle777/LittleRack2.jpg)
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: fujimo on October 19, 2012, 01:23:00 AM
our little sitka blaktail , here on the queen charlotte islands have tiny racks like that.
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: Canyon on October 19, 2012, 01:28:00 AM
I was thinking Coues deer but have never seen one that narrow. Maybe a Florida Keys deer?
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: TRT on October 19, 2012, 02:02:00 AM
I have seen deer with antlers like that in Louisiana and Arkansas.  In La and Ar it is just a young deer.  My first buck was a 6 pt. much like that one.  I shot him near Waverly back in the '80s.
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: wollelybugger on October 19, 2012, 06:44:00 AM
My first buck was a 7 point that was just a shy wider than that rack but not as tall. It was a Pa. mountain deer and got it with a 12 gauge slug. I was the tender age of 12 and was the only one to shoot a deer that day.
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: Mudd on October 19, 2012, 06:59:00 AM
JLyle quote: "I was curious what your thoughts would be about 'em."

My 1st thought was ~  he's not going to get any bigger......ever!    lol

Thanks for sharing.

God bless,Mudd
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: katman on October 19, 2012, 07:06:00 AM
P&Y jackalope    :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: Jon Stewart on October 19, 2012, 07:20:00 AM
I see your from Texas so it reminded me of a 6pt set (both  sides) of drops that I found that is much smaller than that but almost perfect to look at. I found these in a woodlot next to the RV Park near San Antonio that we were staying at.

My thoughts are that the horns in both cases are first year antlers meaning from what would have been a very nice buck.
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: ranger 3 on October 19, 2012, 07:42:00 AM
I'll bet he had great back straps (LOL)
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: A.S. on October 19, 2012, 07:58:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Jon Stewart:


My thoughts are that the horns in both cases are first year antlers meaning from what would have been a very nice buck.
My thoughts exactly. This was a 1 1/2 year old buck with great genetics and good food. He would have been a dandy in a couple years.
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: huskyarcher on October 19, 2012, 08:03:00 AM
Very cool.....i would have probly shot too lol
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: KOOK68 on October 19, 2012, 08:09:00 AM
Here in Louisiana, along the coast, the deer don't get much bigger than 120 lbs. A 14-15" spread is pretty much a trophy from the coastal marsh. I have seen some 8 points not much bigger than that one.
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: huskyarcher on October 19, 2012, 08:12:00 AM
Very cool.....i would have probly shot too lol
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: ron w on October 19, 2012, 09:05:00 AM
I have seen lots that looked like that. One time at work a guy came in with a shopping bag, in it were 8, 10 pt racks and skull caps like that one. That's back when everyone shot the first thing they saw and nothing got to grow. Lots of farms back then, good food and good habitat. Back then very few deer got to be 2 1/2 years old!
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: Mojostick on October 19, 2012, 09:35:00 AM
Looks like about 1/2 the yearling bucks from northern Michigan. LOL
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: tmccall on October 19, 2012, 09:36:00 AM
I've seen smaller in Arkansas.  That's what we call a basket rack.  My buddy killed a 10 point that was small like that a few years ago.
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: South MS Bowhunter on October 19, 2012, 09:53:00 AM
I have a smal 8 point rack i'll have to dig around for it, it's about that size but more symmetrical. Killed the deer in central MS.
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: gregg dudley on October 19, 2012, 10:03:00 AM
My wife's grandfather killed a Wisconsin buck with a rack like that thirty years ago.
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: Bonebuster on October 19, 2012, 08:26:00 PM
VERY common in Northern Michigan.

1 1/2 yr old buck carrying eight points and very narrow and thin.

I have seen and passed up many of them just like that. When you hunt an area and MOST bucks the same age have spikes or forkhorns, you just KNOW genetics come into play.

Too bad our firearms season is so long, because over eighty percent of Michigan bucks are killed wearing their first set of antlers.

Not that BIG bucks are what it`s all about, BUT older age class bucks give a hunter a TRUE view of natural whitetail behavior.
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: Killdeer on October 19, 2012, 10:58:00 PM
I can't get past the width of the skull plate. Look past the antlers, note the size of the skull.

For a deer to have those antlers, he is at least a year and a half old. But the plate is the size of a (local to me) four month old fawn's. I have never handled a Blacktail or Coues deer, so I don't know how they would compare to a Virginia whitetail. I would be very ready to believe it to be other than my local species of deer.

Killdeer~ skritch, skritch...
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: ThePushArchery on October 20, 2012, 05:55:00 AM
J

I got ya beat! Give me a day or so after today's hunt, and I'll snap some pictures of a set of antlers from the second buck I killed back when I was 14 I think.

He is an 8 point smaller than that!
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: twistedlim on October 20, 2012, 05:57:00 AM
Shot a 7 point almost identical to that a loooong time ago.
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: fisherick on October 20, 2012, 08:45:00 AM
My brother shot a Vermont 7 point that was smaller than that 20 years ago.
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: maineac on October 20, 2012, 02:24:00 PM
Here is one that has shown up at a mock scrape I set up (date is wrong).

 (http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/PRMS0059.JPG)

(http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/PRMS0054.JPG)

His body is the same size as a spike and forkhorn that have shown up at the same scrape.  Funny thing is the 8 only shows up after dark, the other two show up at anytime.
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: Tim on October 20, 2012, 03:11:00 PM
My buddy Mark found a shed in Kansas last year that fits in the palm of my hand.   It looks like a rack you would see on a little porcelain deer from a gift shop.  A perfect 4 with a sticker off the base of the main beam.  It's the coolest thing I've ever seen.  I made such a fuss over it he gave it to me and it sits in a stone bowl on my kitchen table.  I'll try to get a photo up later tonight.
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: stickandstring on October 20, 2012, 03:20:00 PM
My guess, could be a european roe deer.
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: Chris O on October 20, 2012, 06:04:00 PM
Cool rack! Im always curious what deer like that would look like in a few years.

Heres a pic of a similar sized whitetail from my area in 2010. First time I saw him in person I figured he would go on and make a monster one day. Hopefully hes still running around.


(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/ltenga/Untitled.jpg)
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: JLyle on October 20, 2012, 07:37:00 PM
I have a picture showing the skullcap from the back.
http://mobth1101.photobucket.com/albums/g422/JLyle777/th_LittleRack4.jpg
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: JLyle on October 20, 2012, 07:40:00 PM
and it was going so well...(sigh). Posting pics is a pain, some times.
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: Tim on October 21, 2012, 08:20:00 AM
Here is a photo of the Kansas shed.....so cool!   (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f281/Wyoming1/f9c36e59f7c07fd4d165590ed9374b46.jpg) (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f281/Wyoming1/62ad7ad19c0db5acf37b51de47590d74.jpg) (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f281/Wyoming1/648d4ff2db9ea6acd18c6d563f22e663.jpg)
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: straight_arrow on October 21, 2012, 09:27:00 AM
Tim, with a little luck I'll find the other side in November!
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: Pat B on October 21, 2012, 02:57:00 PM
This is a deer I shot many years ago. It came from Beaufort Co. SC right next to the Victoria Bluff WMA between Bluffton and Hilton Head on what is now Colleton River Plantation. It is a 10pt but the kicker is he still had his milk teeth so he was only 1 1/2 years old. You can see his jawbone I used to age him under the rack.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/1yearold10pt.jpg)
Title: Re: Ever seen a smaller 8-point rack?
Post by: Gila Mike on October 21, 2012, 04:34:00 PM
Never saw an 8-pt that small but in the early-1980s I killed a 6-pt in East Texas that was smaller than that. It was a nice symmetrical rack but the whole thing was about the size of a grapefruit.

Bad genes? Poor diet? Who knows?   :dunno:  

Mike