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Title: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Jason Kendall on October 18, 2012, 05:00:00 PM
They look pretty nice and will be offered down to a 600 spine. Now if I could just get carbons to fly as good as my aluminum's    :D  

  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/jkendall/Axis.jpg)
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Jason Kendall on October 18, 2012, 05:01:00 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/jkendall/Axis2.jpg)
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: huskyarcher on October 18, 2012, 05:12:00 PM
Oh lord. There goes 140 bucks. Thanks jerk. Lol
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Rob W. on October 18, 2012, 05:20:00 PM
They look nice. Anyody selling them yet? GPI?
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Jason Kendall on October 18, 2012, 05:20:00 PM
I feel your pain Husky!      :eek:  

I just noticed the release on Facebook and thought I would share it here. 3 Rivers will have them soon I bet, they posted it on FB too. I imagine the weight will be the same as the Camo Axis.
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Oliverstacy on October 18, 2012, 05:23:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by huskyarcher:
Oh lord. There goes 140 bucks. Thanks jerk. Lol
Darn...Darn...Darn!!!

This is going to cost me money!

Hey Jason...400's fly great out of my 60" Kanati.    :goldtooth:  

Thanks,

Josh
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Oliverstacy on October 18, 2012, 05:24:00 PM
Now if they'd just come out with a run of Autumn Orange we'd be all set!

Thanks,

Josh
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Jason Kendall on October 18, 2012, 05:25:00 PM
But you pull more weight and further back than me Josh, even 500's seem a little stiff for 50# @ 28". Time to add more tip weight!
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: lunchbucket on October 18, 2012, 05:32:00 PM
Oh boy this is a treat I love those Axis arrows!
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: JamesKerr on October 18, 2012, 05:43:00 PM
Those look like some great arrows!
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: SS Snuffer on October 18, 2012, 05:48:00 PM
Glad Christmas is coming!!!!
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: wtpops on October 18, 2012, 06:27:00 PM
My wife is getting ready to start shooting again, she will be pulling about 30 to 35 at about 29, i wonder if the 600 will work for her, she likes perdy things   :saywhat:
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Razorbak on October 18, 2012, 06:29:00 PM
looks nice..I will stick with my Bemans MFX or regular Axis shafts..LOL
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Lucas K on October 18, 2012, 07:08:00 PM
Are they 18/64ths OD? Or 20/64ths
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: T-D on October 18, 2012, 07:15:00 PM
According to Fred Eichler's FB page they won't be released until January. Which is probably a good thing for me atleast since I need to pay for Christmas presents. LOL
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on October 18, 2012, 07:28:00 PM
Staci was fortunate enough to get to try these arrows.  She was shooting the 600's out of her Stalker Recurve.


We tried to add a "crimson crest", but no luck so far.

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_2856.jpg)


Tuning the new shafts.  

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_2929.jpg)


So far so good.

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_2943.jpg)
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: mountain lion on October 18, 2012, 07:44:00 PM
Awesome! Are they going to be heavier gpi like the mfx?
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: wtpops on October 18, 2012, 08:17:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by S2 Bowstrings:
[QB] Staci was fortunate enough to get to try these arrows.  She was shooting the 600's out of her Stalker Recurve.


Would you mind telling me the spcs of her bow, thank you?
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Jason Hansen on October 18, 2012, 09:00:00 PM
I saw the notice on Fred's and Easton's FB page today.  I love the looks of them and just my luck too, I ordered another dozen of Traditional Only arrows for my Black Widow the other day.  All in all though, I'm extremely pleased with the Traditional Only arrows from 3 Rivers...the 5/16 diameter and S-Nock are great.  Plus, they fly like darts!

It's interesting the release date will be in January...wonder if they will be available from someone at KZOO?  :)
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: SheltonCreeker on October 18, 2012, 09:06:00 PM
Nice looking shafts. I'm sure there will be a dozne ordered to my residence soon enough!
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on October 18, 2012, 10:01:00 PM
Lucas,
The OD is just slightly larger than the standard Axis,  I'm assuming due the wood finish.

Juan,
I'm thinking so.  Staci's standard Axis shafts are 7.2 gpi, these are 7.9 gpi

Rick,
She's shooting a 56" static with the hybrid handle.  It's 37lbs @ 25".

Ryan
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Jim Wright on October 18, 2012, 10:59:00 PM
They sound like and look just like a Beman MFX Classic.
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: sawtoothscream on October 19, 2012, 12:36:00 AM
might need to buy some of those for the longbow  :)
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Steve Clandinin on October 19, 2012, 12:56:00 AM
Love the Old School look.Don't know much about carbons,Ball park for a 55-60# bow @28" and around 200gr. up front would any one know the approx. total arrow weight,Just asking.Thanks Fellas.
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on October 19, 2012, 02:06:00 AM
Steve,
If you were going to shoot a similar style shaft with a standard insert, you'll get about 525-550gr. It's a rough estimate of a 29" shaft assuming that's about the length you're shooting with a 28" draw. Still many variables though.

Ryan
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on October 19, 2012, 04:24:00 AM
Here's another pic.

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_2896.jpg)
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Dan Adair on October 19, 2012, 05:09:00 AM
Tell me they saw the light and make it in a .450 spine too  :D
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Steve O on October 19, 2012, 06:17:00 AM
I have no idea how to do that Facebook thingy, but it looks like they missed the boat if they are not Full Metal Jackets.  Is there ANY difference in the to a MFX Classic?

I was really, REALLY hoping to see a wood grained "Legacy" FMJ    :(
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: ghall80 on October 19, 2012, 09:40:00 AM
All it is a Beman Classic MFX 10.4 gpi and the Easton Axis is 9.4gpi that is a 400 spine arrow for both arrows. Its not new just a new name on it and give guys a trad look. It will have the N-Fused carbon is my guess making it a pricy arrow. Its a better looking arrow for sure I will be sure to get some for my archery shop and do some fancy splicing and cresting !
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Ray Lyon on October 19, 2012, 09:53:00 AM
I tried the Beeman MFX and didn't like the flight as compared to a front loaded Axis with the same total arrow weight.  Axis is the finest carbon I've used including Blackhawk Vapor Carbon and Carbonwood, Grizzly Stiks, Arrow Dynamic Traditional and Trad Lite and the Beeman MFX.  The Axis shaft has been consistant for me over the years and I can't tell any difference in flight between newer and older versions.  The woodgrain is nice, but I've never had a problem with just dressing up the plain black colored shaft with nice wraps and barred feathers.
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Steve Clandinin on October 19, 2012, 10:03:00 AM
Thanks Ryan,Clears things up a little.To many years using Woodies and aluminum.
For the larger stuff we hunt up here is it possible to build these up to around 650gr. without getting to crazy with to much FOC ?
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on October 19, 2012, 12:58:00 PM
Steve,  would a 100gr insert and a 200gr point be too much FOC for you?  You could also use weight tubes too. There are a couple different carbon arrows with a little higher gpi.

My friend and I were playing around with some heavy arrows earlier this year.  We were getting some great flight with heavy inserts and tips ranging from 200-300gr, given the correct spine.

Ryan
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Steve Clandinin on October 19, 2012, 04:37:00 PM
Ryan,I definately had an Old Moment,been stuffing aluminum arrows for years,thanks for the reminder.LOL,gotta give em a try.
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on October 20, 2012, 12:11:00 AM
Your welcome Steve,
Glad to have "jogged" the memory.     :)

Aloha!
Ryan
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Dan Adair on October 20, 2012, 05:15:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by ghall80:
All it is a Beman Classic MFX 10.4 gpi and the Easton Axis is 9.4gpi that is a 400 spine arrow for both arrows. Its not new just a new name on it and give guys a trad look. It will have the N-Fused carbon is my guess making it a pricy arrow.
So what you're really saying is...  "It's pretty much the same thing except it's one grain per inch lighter, and it still uses an X nock which we all know is the root of all evil in the universe, oh but there's a slight technical difference that you wont ever notice.  Oh and its going to cost more money which make you cooler than the other guy"

That's all great, but is it going to be available in a .450 spine?
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Bowwild on October 20, 2012, 09:33:00 AM
I'm told to look for TWO new Easton arrow models designed for recurve and longbow shooters.
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Steve O on October 20, 2012, 09:38:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bowwild:
I'm told to look for TWO new Easton arrow models designed for recurve and longbow shooters.
Roy, PM me if you would.  If they are coming out with the Legacy FMJs That I have been asking for, I am going to have to start selling stuff because I am buying 10 dozen of each 340 and 500s!
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: dino on November 29, 2012, 06:53:00 PM
The new axis traditional are at 3Rivers, just came in today.  Haven't made it to the website but will be there soon. They look really sharp. dino
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Caleb Andes on November 29, 2012, 06:59:00 PM
why.. why would you do this to me!!!
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: dino on November 29, 2012, 07:09:00 PM
http://www.3riversarchery.com/VariableKit.asp?i=6747X&show=info

found the link!!
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Jim Wright on November 29, 2012, 07:44:00 PM
Those look and their specs sound just like Beman MFX Classic shafts. Beman is an Easton company by the way.
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: bowhuntingrn on November 29, 2012, 07:57:00 PM
I was talking to the owner/operator of the local bow shop about these a couple of weeks ago. Granted he does mostly compound business, but has been in the business for close to 30 years and always keeps at least a few traditional supplies around. I asked him about these just being a rebranded MFX, he said the Easton specs are what they say they are, while Beman's tend to be more of an average. I'm personally still hoping for a Legacy FMJ. I've written emails to Easton, even left a message on Eichler's Facebook page hoping he could throw his weight around a little.
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: dino on November 29, 2012, 08:44:00 PM
Beman Centershot shafts are the second traditional shaft that easton is coming out with this year.  They are an H series kinda like the old epic shafts with a woodgrain finish an HP3 50/75 grain brass insert.  3Rivers has those too.  Like the look of the Axis more, but I may end up shooting the Centershots because I like the weight and that insert they come with.
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: buckster on November 29, 2012, 08:54:00 PM
Ch... Ching!!!
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Thare1774 on November 29, 2012, 09:33:00 PM
I saw them in person, the Hoyt rep brought in all the new arrows to the shop i work at. They are really nice arrows. Beman classics arent made anymore, they replaced them with a wood print arrow that uses H nocks. Both look great ,, definitely pickin some up.
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: LookMomNoSights on November 29, 2012, 10:02:00 PM
Go Easton!!!!  Nice!!!!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Stoutstuff on November 29, 2012, 10:26:00 PM
I just bought a dozen FMJ shafts from 3 Rivers for $85. I think I will stay with them even though I like a traditional look.
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: BigJim on November 29, 2012, 11:45:00 PM
We will be stocking these as soon as they are available. Cx also has a new pattern coming out that we will also stock.

thanks,bigjim
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: ishoot4thrills on November 30, 2012, 06:40:00 PM
Jason, check out my signature below. I'm pretty close to your specs with my Beman MFX Classic 500s and I'm using 100 grain brass inserts and they are flying great out of my Kanati.
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: Jason Kendall on November 30, 2012, 07:28:00 PM
Thanks Doug, I am going to try them out again. I think with my longer draw I may be able to go a little lighter on the tip weight to.
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: LostNation_Larry on December 12, 2012, 07:41:00 AM
Looking to try out the new Axis Traditionals soon.  I LOVED the MFX classics.
Title: Re: New Shafts! Axis Traditionals
Post by: bentpole on December 12, 2012, 07:55:00 AM
They are beauties! Jason sent you a P.M.    :readit: