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Title: Bison vitals picture
Post by: Rick McGowan on August 13, 2007, 01:22:00 PM
Anyone have a drawing of the heart/lung area on a bison?
Title: Re: Bison vitals picture
Post by: sar on August 13, 2007, 01:40:00 PM
I'm not back home til tomorrow, but I can look at my "perfect shots" book, scan and send this week.
Title: Re: Bison vitals picture
Post by: Smallwood on August 13, 2007, 01:54:00 PM
http://www.thbison.com/images/faq4.gif
Title: Re: Bison vitals picture
Post by: Rick McGowan on August 14, 2007, 10:06:00 AM
Smallwood, thanks!
sar, I'd still like to see the one from the Perfect Shot if you can do it, Thanks!
Title: Re: Bison vitals picture
Post by: ChuckC on August 15, 2007, 10:57:00 PM
smallwood...is that pic accurate ?  Those lungs are HUGE and the heart is almost out of the chest cavity.    
ChuckC
Title: Re: Bison vitals picture
Post by: Danny Rowan on August 15, 2007, 11:05:00 PM
Yep, that pic is pretty accurate.Rick I hit the elbow and center punched the heart with a lam birch arrow tipped with a 200 gr ace head.Was using a Robertson Vision Falcon, 63#@28". 25 yard shot and he went about 20 yards. Also witnessed one shot dead center lungs that went about the same distance before he was down.

Danny
Title: Re: Bison vitals picture
Post by: Rick McGowan on August 16, 2007, 08:14:00 AM
Yeah that was my impression, the lungs are HUGE, but the heart is tiny and extremely low in the chest, a very strange combination. Usually animals with a large lung capacity have a big pump to go with it.
Title: Re: Bison vitals picture
Post by: Doug Campbell on August 16, 2007, 09:21:00 AM
Rick, not to contradict Danny but I've probably gutted something over of 150 and shot more than a few of these critters and know where I'm coming from.

The heart is plenty big and the front third of it is nestled behind that leg bone. If you hit the lungs in the back third of what that pic shows you gonnna make a mess. The diaphram may be that far back but you are just looking at small lobs of lung that kinda wrap around the paunch, stay close to the shoulder.

One other caution is the hump can throw off your perception of things. More than once what has looked like a solid vital hit has resulted in a chase.
Title: Re: Bison vitals picture
Post by: Rick McGowan on August 16, 2007, 04:47:00 PM
sar, you back home yet?
I believe you Doug, I know you are the man on bison! Thats why I really would like to get as much info as possible.
Title: Re: Bison vitals picture
Post by: Danny Rowan on August 16, 2007, 07:44:00 PM
No problem Doug, I have only killed one and when I hit the elbow I was worried but had enough power to get through the bone and through the heart.

Danny
Title: Re: Bison vitals picture
Post by: Ray Hammond on August 16, 2007, 07:51:00 PM
Rick,
There is a book out called "THE PERFECT SHOT- NORTH AMERICAN GAME" by Craig Boddington. It's available on Amazon and other places, in paperback for about 12 bucks.

Best money you will ever spend, I think, and you will get the real accurate diagram you are looking for from that.

http://www.google.com/products?q=The+Perfect+Shot+North+America&hl=en&um=1&sa=X&oi=froogle&ct=title

here is a link to it
Title: Re: Bison vitals picture
Post by: Rick McGowan on August 17, 2007, 10:15:00 AM
Darn Ray, don't you know I can't be throwing $12 around willy-nilly? I've still got to buy a new freezer for all the meat I'm going to get this year!
Title: Re: Bison vitals picture
Post by: Ray Hammond on August 17, 2007, 11:09:00 AM
I hear you...well, you just gotta get more famous..when that happens, folks just send money to you for no reason...just cause your famous.

then 12 bucks becomes no object!!!  :saywhat:
Title: Re: Bison vitals picture
Post by: Rick McGowan on August 17, 2007, 03:24:00 PM
You mean like Paris Hilton, Brittney Spears or Lindsey Lohan?
Title: Re: Bison vitals picture
Post by: Ray Hammond on August 17, 2007, 03:33:00 PM
yeah, exactly.
Title: Re: Bison vitals picture
Post by: sar on August 17, 2007, 10:51:00 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/StephenRowe/bisonzone.jpg)

sorry it took so long...been getting crushed at work lately
Title: Re: Bison vitals picture
Post by: Leland on August 18, 2007, 01:03:00 PM
sar thats a very accurate picture,hope you don't mind if I print off a copy.It's always easier to show someone then try to explain. Leland
Title: Re: Bison vitals picture
Post by: the Ferret on August 18, 2007, 02:38:00 PM
is it fair chase to shoot 2 legged Bison   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Bison vitals picture
Post by: Rick McGowan on August 18, 2007, 03:50:00 PM
sar, thanks thats awesome.
Mickey, yes, as long as you don't have more than two legs!
You know thats surprising, I always tell hunters to shoot water buffalo, straight up the middle of the leg, 1/4 of the way up from the bottom of the chest, that looks like the perfect shot on a bison also!
Title: Re: Bison vitals picture
Post by: Rick McGowan on August 26, 2007, 09:25:00 AM
tt for Bou'bound
Title: Re: Bison vitals picture
Post by: boubound on August 26, 2007, 09:36:00 AM
thanks rick
Title: Re: Bison vitals picture
Post by: Ray Hammond on August 27, 2007, 09:07:00 AM
Rick,
thats from the 12 dollar book you are too cheap to buy!
Title: Re: Bison vitals picture
Post by: beachbowhunter on August 27, 2007, 04:44:00 PM
mmmm....I smell copyright infringement!  :D