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Title: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: Caleb Andes on October 13, 2012, 12:01:00 AM
I was faced with a decision tonight in the woods. Take an awkward 15yrd shot in a position i hadnt practiced much on a spooky doe that i have become to know as "big mama" or... Let her pass to live another day and provide me with a better shot later in the season. I opted to pass on her. It hurts to think I could be skinning beautiful venison right now. But I believe our bowhunting fathers of past and present are smiling down upon me thinking, this kid has it right.. It's more about the respect of the animal and the journey than the kill itself. I live by that.

Has anyone had the honor of making such decisions this year? If so, shout them out loud an proud!!!
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: wapitirod on October 13, 2012, 12:49:00 AM
I made it a couple times, once on a cow and once on a bull elk.  I had the shot but the range was out of my self imposed limit.  Both were on a steep downhill so I wasn't as concerned about hitting them as I was where I would hit them.  The longer the ranger the more time for them to move and things to go badly wrong.  I ended up with elk tag soup but it's better than having a lost animal on my hands.  I still have deer season ahead so maybe better luck then.
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: Birdbow on October 13, 2012, 05:28:00 AM
Well chosen Caleb. ETHICS has been defined as the choices we make when there's nobody around to see.
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: joe ashton on October 13, 2012, 10:36:00 AM
good call!
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on October 13, 2012, 11:25:00 AM
Not me... I went for a total launch and emptied my quiver! The good lord guided every one of those arrows right into the dirt above and below him too....   :biglaugh:  

Sure felt good to lock and load!

i love these ethics threads.   :p
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: 30coupe on October 13, 2012, 11:37:00 AM
I've passed a lot more than I've shot. One was the biggest buck I've seen from the stand, but it was near the end of legal shooting time and something just felt wrong. I felt kind of sick at first to see such a monster walk out of my life, but the next morning I was back in the same stand. As the sun lit up the area where the buck was standing, I could see some twiggy little branches which would have been between me and his vitals. They were small enough that I couldn't see them the night before, but certainly large enough to have deflected an arrow and perhaps wounding, or worse yet, gut shooting, a fine animal.

You did the right thing at the moment. Kirk is just kidding...I hope!

What part of Iowa are you from? I live in North Central Iowa, but hunt most of the time in Northeast Iowa.
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: JAG on October 13, 2012, 11:42:00 AM
:thumbsup:    :clapper:
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: longbowben on October 13, 2012, 12:39:00 PM
Last year i had a 160 plus buck 17 yards away just didn't like the angle so he is still alive.Couldn't take the chance of wounding him.
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: ChuckC on October 13, 2012, 12:48:00 PM
you did good.  We all need to remember,  if we are concerned about making it, the shot is probably one to pass by.

Thanks for sharing.

ChuckC
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: Bonebuster on October 13, 2012, 12:52:00 PM
This is one of the values of bowhunting...something you can carry with you always that makes your pack lighter and easier to carry instead of heavier and more cumbersome.

Three cheers indeed...carry on Caleb...  :campfire:
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: Caleb Andes on October 13, 2012, 01:06:00 PM
I hunt eastern Iowa in the muscatine area. The doe has been a regular on our trail cams you can tell its her because she is truly a pope and young doe.. She'll be back she left the food plot undisturbed and who know maybe in a couple if weeks she'll pull a big buck out of the timber for me... If she doesn't present me a better shot before then :-)
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: JamesKerr on October 13, 2012, 01:32:00 PM
Nice call!
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: SheltonCreeker on October 13, 2012, 01:38:00 PM
Good Call! when it doesnt feelright always good to pass!
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: frassettor on October 13, 2012, 02:26:00 PM
Not this year, but last year I had a buck in velvet at a mere 8/9 yards, it was quartering to me slightly, I  was gonna wait till he started walking away from me. When he did, the shot didn't feel comfortable due to branches and the feeling I had. I let him walk outa my life that night thinking I will get another opportunity at him another day, I never saw him again. No regrets. It was a great encounter and I felt good about not taking shots that are not only "iffy" but because they don't feel right. I learned to trust my "feeling", it has never let me down.

A few weeks later I had 2 does come through at about 10 --12 yards. I let them walk because I wasn't sure on the size of them. No arrows lost last year, but it was a great year!
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: Matthew Bolton on October 13, 2012, 02:28:00 PM
I passed a doe at 20 yards on Wednesday morning. I just didn't have the confidence to shoot at her plus she was a bit spooky and she had a fawn. I never even rose my bow up.
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on October 13, 2012, 02:57:00 PM
Of course i was kidding...

One of my favorite pass of all times was 3 cow elk and a bull all broadside at very nice yardage. but they were staggered in a line with the butt of the one in front, covering the vitals behind it.... i came to half draw looking for a spot and all i had was butts and guts...and the first one in line had a tree covering the shoulder.

They didn't even know i was there until i busted up laughing.... the butts and guts thing cracked me up....   :biglaugh:

If i have to stop to think about the shot at all, I'll wait till it comes natural. Self confidence is huge with instinctive archery.
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: Hoyt on October 13, 2012, 03:06:00 PM
I don't pat myself on the back..I kick myself in the butt..for not getting a shot.
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on October 14, 2012, 09:38:00 AM
Good for you, I took a shot on a doe two nights ago and everything was text book perfect. less than twelve yards quartered away and totally relaxed yet somehow she managed to duck my string and I got a bad hit. I know it was not a fatal shot and was a flesh wound but it tears me up knowing she's hurting like heck. I'm sure she will survive but none the less it kills me.


Passed on a bunch and some real bruisers at that. Always left the woods feeling real good about it. In 22 years of bow hunting the three bad hits always haunt me and always will.

It takes a real woodsman to let one walk when it just don't feel right.
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: dragonheart on October 14, 2012, 06:29:00 PM
I passed on a 6 point due to "government intervention".  In the county I hunt the hunter has to judge the antlers of a buck as 13" or wider for the buck to be "legal".  I had a great hunt, the buck came in on the right side of the stand and proceeded to step at 12 yrds broadside looking the other way.  Shots do not get much better than this encounter.  He was right at the outside of his ears.  I had that "?" in my mind, so I did not shoot.  I followed the "law".  It does put a distaste for me that our games laws are so dictated by trophy hunters and manufactuers.  I was legal, and I guess that is ethical.
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: Sam McMichael on October 14, 2012, 08:00:00 PM
You made a good choice. If it does not feel right, then it is not right. Wait and try again.
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: Tradcat on October 14, 2012, 08:05:00 PM
Caleb...you WILL be rewarded for that mature, and wise decision. I'm sure you were torn but you made the right call
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: 30coupe on October 14, 2012, 08:38:00 PM
Caleb, I get down that way once in a while. My sons are in De Witt, and I usually hunt with them a time or two each year. Of course, I visit them more than that.
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: Igor on October 14, 2012, 09:20:00 PM
Bravo....I've passed on a number of deer within 10yds - still hunting the last couple of years because I wasn't positive I could tread the needle in the heavy stuff I hunt in...but never second guessed the decision - being that close and deciding to pass is a thrill in itself!

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Glenn
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: Kingsnake on October 15, 2012, 08:33:00 PM
As we teach in the firearms safety classes . . .You will regret any shot you should NOT have taken, much more than any shot you SHOULD have taken.

Good call.

Kingsnake  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: moleman on October 15, 2012, 09:01:00 PM
Good on you! .... I myself have passed up on shots because it didnt feel right or my confidence in making the shot just wasnt there.
I figure ive got lots of hunts ahead of me, no need in making choices i will regret.
We owe it to the game we hunt and to ourselves to make those ethical choices.
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: Roadkill on October 15, 2012, 09:11:00 PM
We hunted cow elk on the first of the month. A guy camped near us shot at an elk a couple hundred yars with his rifle.  He thought he missed, and checked anyway.  No blood no hair.  The next day, magpies showed up and upon investigation, found the cow.  He was dazed.  He then punched his tag complted, with a "wounded, unrecovered" box.
I applaud that,  true sportsmanship
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: ripforce56 on October 16, 2012, 12:35:00 AM
Weather has been brutal up here in N Michigan, lots of rain a wind! Did get out a couple of times between rain storms in the PM! passed on a nice doe on Friday nite was getting dark same deal doe was spooky so didn't even draw! She never spooked just walked off! the problem up here is that if you hit one at dark and do not recover it real fast coyotes will be on it within a couple hours!
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: Richie on October 16, 2012, 12:38:00 AM
Good for you   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: EHK on October 16, 2012, 08:59:00 AM
Congrats on a good decision.

Two years ago I had a small 6 come running into my stand chasing a doe.  Right behind them was the biggest buck I've ever seen in the woods.  Eventually he gave me a broadside shot at 11 yardsbut it was a very small window through some small trees.   I did not feel confident andhad to let him walk.  Never saw him again, but I'm happy to have that memory instead of forcing the shot nd possibly wounding such a beautiful animal.
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: Bernie B. on October 16, 2012, 01:03:00 PM
Boy, I can relate to this!  Last year I passed on a true 180" massive buck at twenty-one yards.  In my forty five years of deer hunting, this buck was truly the best buck I'd ever seen.  Even though the buck was broadside I just didn't feel comfortable with the shot.

I told my son Jay (JJB on here) that if I didn't see another deer all season I probably had one of the best mornings ever in a treestand.
The good news is that no one harvested this buck and I'm hoping we'll have another encounter this fall.

Bernie Bjorklund

NC Iowa/SW Wisconsin
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: PaulRoberts on October 16, 2012, 02:05:00 PM
Early on in my hunting career I saw enough of the results of poor judgment to have it stick. That is not what I'm out there for.

You know what you are capable of, and if you don't, you should practice more.

Good call.
Title: Re: Three cheers for ethical decisions
Post by: KentuckyTJ on October 16, 2012, 02:33:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by longbowben:
Last year i had a 160 plus buck 17 yards away just didn't like the angle so he is still alive.Couldn't take the chance of wounding him.
Now that would have broken down most. Good for you Ben!