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Title: Missed another one
Post by: Matthew Bolton on October 08, 2012, 08:21:00 AM
Well me and dad went out this morning and as you know from the title...I missed again. This time it was a 4 pointer. The shot brings up a question though. I shot a full yard in front of him. I'm no Howard hill but that's impossible for me to miss that badly. I was shooting an arrow that was shooting broadheads well on the ground instead of my normal Eastons. Could it be that arrow that made that big of a nose dive from a tree?
Title: Re: Missed another one
Post by: rastaman on October 08, 2012, 08:23:00 AM
Could have been your heart was beating too fast!  :wavey:   Just kidding sort of...if your broadhead was shooting good from the ground, it will shoot good from the tree.  Have you practiced from an elevated stand?
Title: Re: Missed another one
Post by: Matthew Bolton on October 08, 2012, 08:28:00 AM
Yeah I've shot off of our shed which is about the same height. . The shot felt absolutely perfect but dadgum a full yard in front of the deer is hard to do.
Title: Re: Missed another one
Post by: Cwilder on October 08, 2012, 08:43:00 AM
Shooting at a target and a live animal is a one thing. You have to learn to pull everything together.
Title: Re: Missed another one
Post by: Matthew Bolton on October 08, 2012, 08:47:00 AM
The thing is I killed two last year no problem. Like I said earlier this shot felt perfect. I was focused and the buch had no idea I was there. My fletching was a bit wet but it was still full bodied when I shot
Title: Re: Missed another one
Post by: Iowabowhunter on October 08, 2012, 08:56:00 AM
Buck fever has struck again! Only way I've found of marginally decreasing its disastrous effects, is by shooting a bunch of does. Even then it only helps the slightest bit, at least until after the shot when I completely fall apart   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Missed another one
Post by: wingnut on October 08, 2012, 08:57:00 AM
Feathers lay down when we shoot and then "fluff" back out a few yards clear of the bow.  If the feathers were wet and the arrow not tuned totally to the bow, they probably didn't "fluff" and the broadhead lead the way.  Like bareshaft shooting with a broadhead.  It can go anywhere.

As an example, I was hunting goats in Washington state a few years ago and found an old arrow in a rock slide.  The feathers were long gone but the broadhead was still there.  I decided to see how far it would go into the canyon off of the steep hill side and shot at about a 45 degree up angle.  The arrow looked like a boomagang and we hit the deck as it made it's way back too us landing about 20 yards away.

Mike
Title: Re: Missed another one
Post by: 30coupe on October 08, 2012, 09:12:00 AM
Which direction was in front of him? My guess is, if you are right handed, the shot went left. Your arrows could be on the stiff side to begin with. Then when you shoot down, if you don't bend enough at the waist, your draw will shorten, further stiffening the shaft. Add a little bit of buck fever and the draw could shorten a bit more, adding to the stiffness. Depending on the distance of the shot, those factors could easily put the arrow a yard off target.

On the other hand if the arrow went right, I'd make this guess: you plucked the string a bit coupled with wet feathers and bingo, a yard off again.

Now I'll add one other possibility: didn't pick a spot.

In case you are wondering how I came up with these possible scenarios...well, let's just say I've seen it happen...first hand.   :banghead:
Title: Re: Missed another one
Post by: D on October 08, 2012, 09:14:00 AM
Wow that interesting about shooting that arrow mike.

Missing just happens.  Its part of this great sport that we all love so much.  If your like me its such a rush to see deer coming in I start shaking all over.  I've just barely missed and I've missed my a over a foot before.  I'm no top level target shooter either but I can hold my own and it just happens.  Don't let it get you down just focus on the next one.
Title: Re: Missed another one
Post by: Matthew Bolton on October 08, 2012, 09:19:00 AM
Not in front of him left. I mean between me and the deer. And I guess them being wet must have been the cause.
Title: Re: Missed another one
Post by: reddogge on October 08, 2012, 09:24:00 AM
Could you have glanced off of a tiny limb in the tree? That will throw a shot off badly.
Title: Re: Missed another one
Post by: Matthew Bolton on October 08, 2012, 09:32:00 AM
Nah he was in the wiiiiiiide open. Nothing like a little salt in the wound
Title: Re: Missed another one
Post by: Bill Carlsen on October 08, 2012, 09:44:00 AM
"I was shooting an arrow that was shooting broadheads well on the ground instead of my normal Eastons. Could it be that arrow that made that big of a nose dive from a tree?"

Don't understand this. Your hunting arrows are different than your practice arrows. Think we have a problem here? Why are the arrows different?
Title: Re: Missed another one
Post by: John146 on October 08, 2012, 09:45:00 AM
When I first started hunting with a traditional bow I missed a few deer in front. For me it was shortdrawing without realizing it. Not sure if this is a possiblity.
Title: Re: Missed another one
Post by: Matthew Bolton on October 08, 2012, 10:12:00 AM
It was the same arrow I practiced with the night before. I was shooting a carbon express arrow instead of my normal traditional onlys. I can group broadheads with these two different shafts. I probably asked a dumb question because I was flustered from the shot.
Title: Re: Missed another one
Post by: 30coupe on October 08, 2012, 10:36:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Matthew Bolton:
Not in front of him left. I mean between me and the deer. And I guess them being wet must have been the cause.
So you shot low?   :confused:  

Could be he was farther away than you thought.
Title: Re: Missed another one
Post by: Matthew Bolton on October 08, 2012, 10:55:00 AM
Nah. I shoot instinctive so I doubt it would have mattered at 15 yards.
Title: Re: Missed another one
Post by: nampook93 on October 08, 2012, 01:19:00 PM
I would agree, buck fever has struck.
Title: Re: Missed another one
Post by: Matthew Bolton on October 08, 2012, 01:28:00 PM
Well I wasn't nervous and I was focused in on the crease of his shoulder. Plus I dont think I could miss a deer by a solid 3-4 feet on my own if I tried HAHA
Title: Re: Missed another one
Post by: CoilSpring on October 08, 2012, 10:51:00 PM
I have had the string hit a bulky, loose sleeve, near the elbow, felt it slightly, but didn't hear it hit (flannel/fleece).  It slows the string/arrow a lot, then drops excessively quick.

Use a tighter sleeve material or extended arm guard w/bulky fabric, or rubber bands placed strategically - maybe open up your stance a little to clear the bow arm.
Title: Re: Missed another one
Post by: BOHO on October 08, 2012, 11:13:00 PM
try not to shoot at the whole deer. pick as small a spot as you can where you need the arrow to go.
Title: Re: Missed another one
Post by: on October 09, 2012, 12:50:00 AM
Have you praticed with the same clothes on that you hunt in. If you missed that bad it could be that your string hit part of your clothing or something like that.

I never wear an armguard, until I put long sleeves on, then I have to to keep the string from hitting my clothes.

Bisch
Title: Re: Missed another one
Post by: Pheonixarcher on October 09, 2012, 01:40:00 AM
I would be suspect of the sleeve as well. I was shooting in the dark the other night with no arm guard, and had one shot at about 15-17 yards, where I felt the string snag my sleeve, and the arrow dropped about 3 ft, but was still straight in regards to left or right. It happens, and is definitely a credible excuse. Lol
Title: Re: Missed another one
Post by: gringol on October 09, 2012, 05:44:00 PM
Sounds like a case of the dreaded buck fever to me.  When you get a bad case of buck fever, things like reaching your anchor, follow-through, picking a spot, etc become very difficult.  That's bow-hunting, brother.  If it was guaranteed they would call it shopping.  Just keep at it and get the next one.
Title: Re: Missed another one
Post by: buckeye_hunter on October 09, 2012, 06:26:00 PM
2 misses in a row? Is it target panic?


I have had issues with it and am currently having some now.