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Title: Sharp is not sharp enough
Post by: yankeevol on October 06, 2012, 09:47:00 PM
I have been working with my KME broadhead sharpener and my new stones for a few weeks now. I am sharpening muzzy phantoms and steelforce premiums. I am getting them pretty sharp. They will pop a few hairs but doggone I can not for the life of me get them really shaving sharp. I have probably spent 8-10 hours trying the techniques from the videos. I've read every thread I could find. I've tried different pressures. I've used the sharpie. I have kept the stones really flooded with oil. I have made sure the broadhead is mounted correctly in the clamps. I've done everything I can think of, but I want bare arms. I am hunting with them and I am sure they will kill, but I really wish they were smokin' sharp. What's the secret?
Title: Re: Sharp is not sharp enough
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on October 06, 2012, 09:51:00 PM
Call up KME. I hear they have great service. Good luck!
Title: Re: Sharp is not sharp enough
Post by: Sharpster on October 06, 2012, 09:51:00 PM
Rob, I'm sitting at my desk right now if you want to give me a call. If not call me whenever you have a chance.

Ron

800 561-4339
Title: Re: Sharp is not sharp enough
Post by: Josh Perdue on October 06, 2012, 09:56:00 PM
I talked to ron he guided me through the process now my heads are hair popping sharp. I wasn't spending enough time with the course stone. Giving him a call is well advised.
Title: Re: Sharp is not sharp enough
Post by: Rick Richard on October 06, 2012, 10:07:00 PM
I am having the same issue. How much time did you have to spend with the coarse stone?
Title: Re: Sharp is not sharp enough
Post by: akaboomer on October 06, 2012, 10:07:00 PM
Now that's customer service!!!!! Good on ya Ron!!!!!!! That's the kind of thing just don't happen other places.

Chris
Title: Re: Sharp is not sharp enough
Post by: JAG on October 06, 2012, 10:08:00 PM
Rob is da MAN!
Title: Re: Sharp is not sharp enough
Post by: Sharpster on October 06, 2012, 10:21:00 PM
Rick, I just got off the phone with yankeevol. Heck, I'm up if you want to call too. Thanks!

Ron
800 561-4339
Title: Re: Sharp is not sharp enough
Post by: Josh Perdue on October 06, 2012, 10:21:00 PM
He told me me 90% time with the course stone and should be able to cut hair on arm with that, then finish on the fine, followed by backwards passes with a piece of card board, i just wasnt spending enough time with the course, now they are shaving sharp
Title: Re: Sharp is not sharp enough
Post by: Josh Perdue on October 06, 2012, 10:22:00 PM
He told me me 90% time with the course stone and should be able to cut hair on arm with that, then finish on the fine, followed by backwards passes with a piece of card board, i just wasnt spending enough time with the course, now they are shaving shar, ron was super cool
Title: Re: Sharp is not sharp enough
Post by: yankeevol on October 06, 2012, 10:28:00 PM
Well, I just got off the phone with Ron. It took less than 5 minutes, and I now have a spot on my arm as bare as a baby's butt using the very same phantom I have been working on the whole time.

KME works. And customer service like this is over the top. Don't be like me and spend 8 hours doing it wrong when you can call Ron and get it done right in 5 minutes.

Thanks Ron!
Title: Re: Sharp is not sharp enough
Post by: pdk25 on October 06, 2012, 11:06:00 PM
Ron, you are one of the few things that I miss about NJ.  Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Sharp is not sharp enough
Post by: jonsimoneau on October 06, 2012, 11:09:00 PM
I think most guys use to much pressure at the wrong time.  Once you get to the point that you have a burr, the idea is to lightly roll it over back and forth until the steel falls off.  Then leather strop or cardboard etc.  Most guys trying to sharpen broadheads put too much muscle in it for too long in my opinion.
Title: Re: Sharp is not sharp enough
Post by: calgarychef on October 07, 2012, 02:40:00 AM
I think most people don't get to the point that they have a burr and that's a big problem.  The burr indicates that you've caused one edge to meet the other and then you do it on the second edge with the same coarseness of stone as the first.  Only then are you ready to go on to the next stone and unless I'm mistaken you need to get a burr again and so on and so forth.  You don't have to go to a super fine stone to get a super sharp edge.
Title: Re: Sharp is not sharp enough
Post by: Bear Heart on October 07, 2012, 02:50:00 AM
Ron did the same for me back in a good 5 years ago.  I was going to the finer stones too soon.
Title: Re: Sharp is not sharp enough
Post by: yankeevol on October 07, 2012, 06:44:00 AM
Woke up this morning thinking I had been dreaming... then looked down and saw a big bald spot on my arm.    :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Sharp is not sharp enough
Post by: MCS on October 07, 2012, 07:58:00 AM
Ron is great. And he can shoot too.
Title: Re: Sharp is not sharp enough
Post by: Bill Carlsen on October 07, 2012, 09:04:00 AM
The same sharpening truism applies to three blades as well............ getting the burr and lightening up on the fine stones.  I've talked to Ron on numerous ocaisions (but not lately..."hi Ron")  and he is the most helpful guy I know that runs any business. First class all the way.
Title: Re: Sharp is not sharp enough
Post by: Cowboy Al on October 07, 2012, 12:14:00 PM
Just ordered a KME sharpener thru 3 Rivers...I'm looking forward to getting it and using it.
Title: Re: Sharp is not sharp enough
Post by: RedShaft on October 07, 2012, 01:12:00 PM
what did you learn if you dont mind sharing?????
Title: Re: Sharp is not sharp enough
Post by: Kamm1004 on October 07, 2012, 06:28:00 PM
Have u had a much luck with the muzzy phantoms after talking to Ron? I'm curious because my Kme get everything sharper than a scalpel except those phantoms. I'm sure its just me but I really struggle with them more than any other head
Title: Re: Sharp is not sharp enough
Post by: yankeevol on October 07, 2012, 07:29:00 PM
Red, Kamm, I have sharpened 3 muzzy phantoms to razor sharp since talking with Ron. It literally takes less than 5 minutes. I have never had any broadhead as sharp. It shaves my arms (and my legs, to my wife's total disgust) to smooth and bare. I could only tell you what Ron told me but the very best thing is to call the master himself. If you cannot catch up with him, PM me, and I will try to relay the advice on muzzy phantoms.

Rob
Title: Re: Sharp is not sharp enough
Post by: kenn1320 on October 08, 2012, 12:10:00 PM
I must have rubbery hair or something, as I cant ever get them to shave. Sure they will pop a few, but nothing scary. I also find that running them backwards on the cardboard seems to take any sharpness they had away. Ive spoken with Ron in the past and agree, he is great to talk with and very informative.
Title: Re: Sharp is not sharp enough
Post by: JamesKerr on October 08, 2012, 02:49:00 PM
Ron is the MAN!