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Title: Bears and pressure
Post by: Marc B. on October 02, 2012, 08:15:00 AM
Area is in a wilderness area in the mountains of SW Virginia around 3300' elevation. The white oaks hit heavy this year. Our main trail to get into the area has became a bear trail, bunches of scat, rolled over logs. Plenty of good ambush sites along this trail.

The pressure: One guy who I refuse to call a hunter is in the area the first couple of weeks of bow season. He builds permanent stands (illegal here, rides a motorcycle into the wilderness area, puts out salt(illegal here).He doesn't really get in the area with all the sign but he is close. He will be around for the first couple of weeks of the season then he disappears until black powder season.

Do y'all think him being in the area will pressure the bears into moving on?
Title: Re: Bears and pressure
Post by: NBK on October 02, 2012, 09:57:00 AM
Call the warden.  I've no patience for those breaking the laws.
Title: Re: Bears and pressure
Post by: Marc B. on October 02, 2012, 10:03:00 AM
Done it a few years ago and it didn't help.
Title: Re: Bears and pressure
Post by: Bill Carlsen on October 02, 2012, 10:36:00 AM
Yes. Call the Warden again.
Title: Re: Bears and pressure
Post by: joe ashton on October 02, 2012, 11:40:00 AM
can put out a trail camera to see what the bears are doing?  If there is food they will probably go nocturnal.
Joe
Ps and call the  Game warden too.
Title: Re: Bears and pressure
Post by: Marc B. on October 02, 2012, 12:13:00 PM
Good idea Joe, there is plenty of food this year but we have a huge mast crop.
Title: Re: Bears and pressure
Post by: Gila Mike on October 02, 2012, 12:24:00 PM
Designated wilderness areas covered by the National Wilderness Act prohibit wheels of any kind and motorized vehicles of any kind. The wilderness lands are administered by the National Forest Service.

Wilderness area? Motorcycle? If you can, get his vehicle tag number(s) and then call the forest supervisor & the game warden.

Mike
Title: Re: Bears and pressure
Post by: BowMIke on October 02, 2012, 12:38:00 PM
I wouldn't do anything destructive, but maybe let the air out of his tires. Let him push it out.
As long as you can avoid any confrontation.
Title: Re: Bears and pressure
Post by: TRAD101 on October 02, 2012, 01:28:00 PM
I would set up a trail camera on him. nothing like photographic evidence of a law breaker.
Title: Re: Bears and pressure
Post by: JimB on October 02, 2012, 02:17:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Gila Mike:
Designated wilderness areas covered by the National Wilderness Act prohibit wheels of any kind and motorized vehicles of any kind. The wilderness lands are administered by the National Forest Service.

Wilderness area? Motorcycle? If you can, get his vehicle tag number(s) and then call the forest supervisor & the game warden.

Mike
I agree with that 100%.Those areas weren't set aside so that one person could buzz around on a motor bike while all others walk.

And don't be afraid to go up the ladder if you get no response.You can at least reach some of those folks by email if not by phone.Let them know you are also calling others.

For now,I'd give it a try,sitting the most used trails between the hardest hit trees.The bears may be working around the distractions if the food source is good enough.The trail camera is a great idea.
Title: Re: Bears and pressure
Post by: Tall Paul on October 02, 2012, 02:22:00 PM
I'd call the game warden, and his boss, every day until they did something.
Title: Re: Bears and pressure
Post by: Marc B. on October 02, 2012, 03:03:00 PM
I'll report it again.
Title: Re: Bears and pressure
Post by: Robhood23 on October 04, 2012, 11:05:00 AM
Sounds like your wardens are like our wardens! good luck!
Title: Re: Bears and pressure
Post by: Sharpend60 on October 04, 2012, 10:46:00 PM
Drop the dime, for sure.

This guy seems to be over the top, no regard for rules either inherent or enforced.

Just remember, squeaky wheel gets the grease.
Game wardens, state police, forest service are all public employees. They are paid to hear your complaints and HELP you.
You pay taxes right? Follow the rules?
They are here to serve you and every other tax payer.

Don't be bashful... Please stand up for yourself and the rest of us.
Avoid confrontation, thats their job.