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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: rnharris on September 30, 2012, 11:30:00 PM
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anyone else have this problem i am perfect as far as tune on ground arrows flying right in line grouping good nothing left or right went hunting and before i got down i shot about 4 arrows in a tight little group at 18 yds from about 18 ft up all in a 4" group but left of where i was looking ,bow is low fifties 66" string follow longbow slight cant thanks!
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Only when I don't get the bow all the way back and maintain back tension thru the release.
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Try canting the bow a bit more when up in the tree- it may surprise you.
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I'm with BWD on this one. I would suspect a bit of a short draw.
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John Schulz says to roll that bow over flat when shooting down out of a high tree stand.
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I am doing the exact same thing and can't figure it out.
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I suspect short draw maybe but must be very consistent shot draw arrows grouping tight dunno,maybe I need to tune weaker to compensate? Thnx
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thanks for responses guess i am pretty rare not many posts :dunno:
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short draw...... thats what happens to me when i short draw for sure.
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Cant that bow all the way over so it is almost "HorrorZontal" Give it a shot.
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I usually cut a 3 d deer in half out of a tree stand before I go hunting just didn't have time this year I am gonna work on form from stand before going hunting again my gut tells me I am short drawing but for kicks I will cant more
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If you are a right handed shooter you may also be lifting your head at the shot and peeking to see where the arrow went.
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Sounds like you are not bending at the waist to get your shoulders square to the target. That will almost always result in a short draw.
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that's why i posted the thread back to basics been shooting for 30 years fell into some bad habits without knowing it but was fooled really by my shooting on the ground thought everything was ok elevation changed that thanks guys keepem coming!
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Not bending at the waist to get the shoulders squared with the target as suggested above. A good way to test when you are practicing or setting in the stand is draw from the stand like you are shooting level and bend at the waist to get on target. It will show you if you are or not truly bending enough at the waist.
The best way to accompish for me when on game is to bend before I start the draw. In ther words, I bend toward my target and then draw the bow. It keeps me in line with proper form if I do this.
Funny thing was this morning after the rain soaked me and I decided to call it, I drew down on a leaf to get my practice sht in and it did the same thing. So I re-nocked a broadhead tipped arrow and went throught my protocal and nailed it. Something to consider as it might help you a bit. God Bless
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thanks Justin ,funny how little things can throw the shot off i was only 4" to the left at 18 yds but enough to possibly wound instead of kill i am gonna shoot only from elevated positions until i work this out God Bless
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Originally posted by elknutz:
I'm with BWD on this one. I would suspect a bit of a short draw.
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I think you are on the right track. I don't usually have a problem at 15-20 yards, but when they are closer I sometimes do. I used to take a practice shot at something around 20 yards before I got out of the stand. Then I took a shot at a squirrel one day that was about 8 yards from the tree and shot right in front of him...hmm. Now I shoot two shots before I climb down: one at 20 and one inside 10.
On the really close ones I do what Byron Ferguson suggests in his book, I bend my front leg instead of trying to get all the angle at my waist.
Russ
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You may be catching your clothes with the string especially with a bow that long....Tim
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thanks guys Tim no clothes contact too hot to wear clothes lol
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i've seen alot of right handed shooters, both traditional and compound start shooting to the left, especially at game because they start trying to watch the arrow instead of concentrating on the follow through. When you try to watch the arrow a right hander will pull the bow to the left, other than that I'll also shoot left on a short draw.
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Ralph, I have found when I hit to the left of my mark from a tree stand its my bow arm extending a bit farther then the norm. Depending on the size of your platform and how comfortable you are at heights, your form changes from being on the ground. Put a few different targets out from your stand, from just away from the bottom of the tree to out to your max distance. I do this during the summer with 4 different deer targets with a orange colored roofing nail placed in the vitals. Most times if you have a form issue it will show up at the close targets.
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It's something in your bow arm/hand if you are shooting right handed. Pay attention to your form....your doing something different up in a tree. Bending at the waist may fix it.
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Ralphy, donno if it will help you but for me, if I'm hittnig left consistently, I've turned so "Square" with the target that my dominate eye (right eye / right handed shooter) gets cut out of vision a little... If I open my stance, ever so slightly, I can see the target and acquire the path of the arrow without any problem. And the arrow goes straight.
So If you are right handed, move your left foot just an inch or so to the left and it'll open up your stance just a smidgen... It helps me.
Blessings