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Title: Shelf and Side Plate...Hard or Cushioned
Post by: Avid Archer on September 29, 2012, 06:24:00 PM
I read threads where some folks like a hard shelf and a cushioned side plate, some like a cushioned shelf and a hard side plate. Some folk like both shelf and side plate hard and some like both cushioned.

An example of what I consider a hard would be a piece of leather glued to either shelf or side. Examples of cushioned would be these felt chair leg pads, or a piece of peep sight tubing covered by Velcro.

In your opinion, what provides the best and most consistent  arrow flight, and more importantly, why?
Title: Re: Shelf and Side Plate...Hard or Cushioned
Post by: olddogrib on September 29, 2012, 06:34:00 PM
If you watch some of the excellent slow-mo videos of archer's paradox, the tail end of a well tuned arrow is nowhere near either when it passes the riser. If that's the case I really think it's a matter of personal preference, other than for hunting the material should be quiet when the shaft slides across it on the draw.
Title: Re: Shelf and Side Plate...Hard or Cushioned
Post by: ron w on September 29, 2012, 06:57:00 PM
Soft and cushioned so it's silent on the draw....when you drop the hammer it don't matter with the paradox!
Title: Re: Shelf and Side Plate...Hard or Cushioned
Post by: twigflicker on September 29, 2012, 07:02:00 PM
Depends...

I've been tuning with Rick Welch advice... If the arrow is weak, harder pad... if the arrows is a stiff, soft pad...

Jonathan
Title: Re: Shelf and Side Plate...Hard or Cushioned
Post by: Pointer on September 30, 2012, 01:34:00 PM
My wes wallace likes a leather side plate and a velcro rest...I get good arrow flight so thats what I use..
Title: Re: Shelf and Side Plate...Hard or Cushioned
Post by: Rob W. on September 30, 2012, 01:39:00 PM
I have always had a hard side plate. Up until this year I liked a bear hair rest. My new longbow has a very slim shelf and the same leather as the side.

Can't tell much difference in the two.

I think the bear hair was quiter when I shot aluminum.
Title: Re: Shelf and Side Plate...Hard or Cushioned
Post by: JEFF B on September 30, 2012, 02:53:00 PM
velcro for side and shelf nice and silent   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Shelf and Side Plate...Hard or Cushioned
Post by: Knapper on September 30, 2012, 03:13:00 PM
This discussion offers some thoughts that I have never considered or maybe over looked on my part.
Title: Re: Shelf and Side Plate...Hard or Cushioned
Post by: smokin joe on September 30, 2012, 03:34:00 PM
Quiet matters most to me. I don't want any noise at all before the release.
Title: Re: Shelf and Side Plate...Hard or Cushioned
Post by: Frank V on September 30, 2012, 04:01:00 PM
That is an interesting question. I use both & don't really notice a difference except the Seal Fur rests are quieter nocking an arrow. This may be the deciding factor. Some Boyers use velcro, the pile side, & seem to get great results.
If I were going to pick one or the other, I'd go for quiet.
Frank
Title: Re: Shelf and Side Plate...Hard or Cushioned
Post by: Avid Archer on September 30, 2012, 04:14:00 PM
Both cushioned and hard can be made quiet.

My question is, which provides the most consistent arrow flight.

It seems logical to me that a cushioned side plate, especially on a bow cut past center, would be best because it would mimic the action of a spring cushion plunger. Target archers use plungers for more than just attaining a perfect tune, but to also help when the release is less than perfect.

That being said, what seems logical to me, is often wrong. LOL
Title: Re: Shelf and Side Plate...Hard or Cushioned
Post by: jonsimoneau on September 30, 2012, 05:24:00 PM
Depends on arrow flight.  Assuming you are a right handed shooter, if your arrows are hitting to the left you may want to try a softer side plate.  Vice versa if your arrows are hitting to the right.
Title: Re: Shelf and Side Plate...Hard or Cushioned
Post by: tuscarawasbowman on October 01, 2012, 08:27:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by twigflicker:
Depends...

I've been tuning with Rick Welch advice... If the arrow is weak, harder pad... if the arrows is a stiff, soft pad...

Jonathan
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