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Title: Montana Bull... The joy and pain of elk hunting
Post by: Montanawidower on September 28, 2012, 10:49:00 PM
The story of this bull starts this summer...

For those who remember my story from last year, I hunt with two old friends Brett and Jason.  They have hunted together since childhood.  I met them 6 or so years back, and together we have taken 13 bulls in 5 seasons.  These guys know how to get it done!  

Back to the summer,  Jason called us and gave us his great news. He drew a coveted Mountain Goat tag in the Crazies!   We were pumped for him...  Until we realized that may really impact our elk season.     :)    


After much planning and deliberation, Jason and Brett decided to hunt with compound bows this season.  Don't worry,  I don't even own a wheelie bow and wouldn't relent even if I did.  We did however all make a pact to shoot the first legal bull we could.   Our thinking was early elk kills would free up Jason to take off and chase a goat.  

Enter September....  We hunted two weekends a piece  early in the month and had no luck .  

Again it was time to return to our secret Bloody Ridge and try to pull off another miracle.  Fill three tags in 7 days....  To our amazement, It only took 4.     :)  

I know the politically correct on this site don't care about compound kills so I'll omit the pictures of Jason and Bretts bulls.  Its a shame however,  because Brett's bull was a dandy.  Mine was a meat bull ( i.e. a dink. )    

Ironically Brett shot his at 20ish on the first night.  Jason shot his at 12 yards only twenty minutes before I shot mine at 32!   Go figure.    We all  decide to "shoot what comes our way" and those guys get chip shots at nice bulls with compounds.    I on the other hand have to shoot a mile at a shrimp.   No worries....Truthfully,  I couldn't have been happier.

I'll give more details and some pictures when I return.
Title: Re: Montana Bull... The joy and pain of elk hunting
Post by: Shan on September 28, 2012, 10:59:00 PM
Wow, excited to see this. Congrats!!
Title: Re: Montana Bull... The joy and pain of elk hunting
Post by: SportHunter on September 28, 2012, 11:02:00 PM
great story but where's the PICS   :bigsmyl:
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Post by: rastaman on September 28, 2012, 11:03:00 PM
:campfire:  can't wait to "hear" the rest!
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Post by: JEFF B on September 28, 2012, 11:08:00 PM
way cool but where are the pics?   :clapper:    :goldtooth:
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Post by: joe ashton on September 28, 2012, 11:56:00 PM
:notworthy:
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Post by: stocker56 on September 29, 2012, 04:44:00 AM
:campfire:
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Post by: Tater on September 29, 2012, 09:29:00 AM
Wow three Bulls in four days..!  Congrats...  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Montana Bull... The joy and pain of elk hunting
Post by: on September 29, 2012, 09:57:00 AM
WOW! Congrats to all 3 of you guys!

Bisch
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Post by: Jesse Minish on September 29, 2012, 10:45:00 AM
:thumbsup:
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Post by: wooddamon1 on September 29, 2012, 11:03:00 AM
:campfire:
Title: Re: Montana Bull... The joy and pain of elk hunting
Post by: Montanawidower on September 29, 2012, 12:14:00 PM
Sorry everyone....I am having trouble with the new photo bucket.  The internet I have is slow and the new "Beta" is maddening!!!!!!  Resizing takes forever and it keeps locking up.  


Any other ways to post photos?
Title: Re: Montana Bull... The joy and pain of elk hunting
Post by: Montanawidower on September 29, 2012, 12:46:00 PM
Well I'll spin the tale while my computer is catching up with the photo editing.  

Brett and I hiked into camp last Thurs with high hopes.   We have hunted this area with great success and it always holds bulls late in the season.    We left my house late and hiked in the dark.   This is a important point that will come into play later.....

Fri morning found us atop the ridge listening to a small herd bugle their way toward us.   We have seen this play out dozens of times before and thus just played it easy.  We keep track of the elk below us while waiting for the thermals to change.  

Once the thermals changed, we dropped in to make a play.   I was up front with the stick bow while Brett called and was to "pick up the slack" if one slipped by me.   We called in a hot bull that was coming in on a perfect line for me.  

The bull was bugling and walking slowly through the lodgepole.   He turned broadside at 30 and bugled again. I ran through my mental checklist.   He walked to 22 and was slightly quartering to me when he picked me out.  In a whirl he spun and was gone?   What did he see?  

Later that morning we watched two bulls wallow and chase cows.  However, the wind destabilized and we opted to pull out.  With no elk in range, we spent the afternoon on the ridge glassing for elk in positions we could move in on.  

At 3pm, I  awoke to a bugle that sounded close.  I moved to the rim of the ridge and glassed a great 7x7 that was alone.  I called once and he bugled immediately.   I grabbed Brett and said I think its on!   Brett glassed the bull, called twice .... the bull turned and was running at us from 300 yards.  It was on!


Without a word Brett shot off the ridge.  His turn.   He dove to the bottom of some hellish deadfall where we know a trail comes from the bull's direction.   I set up 100 yards up hill of Brett and kept the bull coming with calls.  The bull slipped through the timber...  then bugled so loud the timber rattled!   Brett did his job and it was over quickly.    

That night Jason joined us and we packed Bretts bull to camp....

The next day was Saturday and our turn to give it another shot.
Title: Re: Montana Bull... The joy and pain of elk hunting
Post by: Randy Morin on September 29, 2012, 01:37:00 PM
Awesome Jeff.  I'll be back tomorrow for the rest!!
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Post by: Shinken on September 29, 2012, 07:14:00 PM
:campfire:  

Shoot straight, Shinken

  :archer2:
Title: Re: Montana Bull... The joy and pain of elk hunting
Post by: Montanawidower on September 29, 2012, 08:54:00 PM
Saturday passed rather uneventfully.  The highlight was glassing a bull that was well over 300.  We debated back and forth about his probable score.  I said 320, Brett 330 and Jason 350.  Who knows for sure because mid conversation the bull and cows start to bolt like they just winded people.  They were well upwind and 500 yards from us across a canyon.  No way it was us.  What was it?  

The answer came Sunday.  We hiked down the drainage from camp and stumbled into a CAMP not 200 yards from ours!  When we hiked in on Thurs in the dark, we marched right past it.    There were other hunters about.

Now lets get this straight, we have never seen another camp back in this location and have only seen one other person in 5 years.  We were peaved to say the least.  Its a free country and this is public land.  However it sometimes feels like an intrusion when you have such a good thing going.  It only takes one set of loose lips.....

Sunday morning was slow, but Sunday evening was on fire.  I came to within 45 yards of a giant herd bull.  The story is one that deserves its own topic.  "Running at a herd bull while bugling your head off".  Unconventional but it worked.   Anyway, a story for another day.  

Brett returned to camp Sunday night after packing his bull back to a safe cool place.  We then decided to visit our new neighbors.   Our neighbors were as feared.  They went on and on about the number of bugling bulls and the overall good size.  They" use to hunt the Breaks but have been looking for change".  They also mentioned a big group they hunt with, blah, blah, blah . ..... Paradise lost is all we could think.  We returned to our tent more than a little dejected.


Monday morning came with a somber mood.   Luckily the best salve for a wounded spirit is a huge herd of  bugling bulls competing for a hot cow.  That was the scenario unfolding below us.  

Again, we played the wind and ridge.  The plan worked to a tee.  The herd slowly worked towards us and we herd non stop bugling.  Two big herd bulls were competing and fighting.  Several satellites were circling like moons around Saturn. One satellite peeled towards and Jason and he dispatched it at 12 yards.  

Another satellite came in my direction but crossed me up.  The bull almost got around me, but luckily Jason saw what was happening and steered the bull just a little closer.....

Now I know some people are going to get their feathers ruffled but ....I took a long shot.  In fact it was the longest shot I have ever taken at an elk- 32 yards ( stepped off after the shot.)   I passed three elk at 15-25 early in the season because they were looking at me or were edgy.   This bull was standing broadside and looking away from me.  I felt surprisingly confident.  

I drew, anchored, sort of gapped it, and slowly squeezed it off.  It felt and looked perfect.   He didn't move until the arrow struck its mark.   The shot was perfect.  I was relieved and pleased.        :)    
 
 (http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd448/fluffery/newphoto.jpg)
Two bulls down in less than 20 minutes and we did it just how like it:  Coming to a caller and bugling their heads off.  

The season is over.  It was a series of ups and downs.  By the time we packed the bulls and camp out, we had logged 50 plus miles that week.  Painful, but oh so fun.  

As for next year, I think our secret is no longer SECRET.  We'll see.  Until then, its the sweet afterglow of an elk in the freezer.  

Thanks for coming along.  

Jeff
Title: Re: Montana Bull... The joy and pain of elk hunting
Post by: Montanawidower on September 29, 2012, 09:13:00 PM
So for the details and a few more photos.  I finally got through with my photo bucket work.  (I hate that site by the way)

I shot the bull with a Toelke Lynx longbow.  61# at 29 in.  GT 55-75 with 350 up front.  Total arrow was 650 grains.

My new broad head tested this year
(http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd448/fluffery/P9241704.jpg)

My shot
(http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd448/fluffery/P9241700.jpg)

Off side penetration.  I actually cut my finger on the broad head while skinning this side.  I didn't expect it to be sticking out.  (http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd448/fluffery/P9241702.jpg)

Packing out the "Double"
(http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd448/fluffery/IMG_0532.jpg)

And finally... the three amigos
(http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd448/fluffery/IMG_0529.jpg)
Title: Re: Montana Bull... The joy and pain of elk hunting
Post by: longbowray on September 29, 2012, 09:51:00 PM
Cool !!!!
Title: Re: Montana Bull... The joy and pain of elk hunting
Post by: DEATHMASTER on September 29, 2012, 10:08:00 PM
Way to get it done
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Post by: bearsfeet on September 29, 2012, 11:05:00 PM
Cool story and great shot on your bull
Title: Re: Montana Bull... The joy and pain of elk hunting
Post by: Thumper Dunker on September 30, 2012, 05:41:00 AM
:thumbsup:    :clapper:    :clapper:    :clapper:
Title: Re: Montana Bull... The joy and pain of elk hunting
Post by: Toecutter on September 30, 2012, 08:14:00 AM
AWESOME!!!   :thumbsup:  
Sorry about the "other " guys. Losing a secret spot puts a pit in my gut...ugh

Nathan
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Post by: Randy Morin on September 30, 2012, 09:06:00 AM
Freaking-awesome!!  Great story and pics Jeff. Congrats to all-yall.
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Post by: Bel007 on September 30, 2012, 09:09:00 AM
Very nice!
Congrats
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Post by: COOCH on September 30, 2012, 09:58:00 AM
Awesome! Congrats on a great bull. 32 yds is just a bit farther than the national average of 27 yds.Great shooting.
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Post by: Big Ed on September 30, 2012, 11:10:00 AM
Awesome!!
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Post by: Big Ed on September 30, 2012, 11:13:00 AM
Awesome!!
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Post by: Hoyt on September 30, 2012, 12:34:00 PM
Good Shoot'n!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/Iflytrout/Pictures/buzzards.gif)
Title: Re: Montana Bull... The joy and pain of elk hunting
Post by: Bernie B. on September 30, 2012, 12:43:00 PM
Congratulations!  Those are really great pictures!  Too bad about the company in "your area", but maybe they didn't have success and will be looking for greener pastures next year.  Great story also!

Bernie Bjorklund

NC Iowa/SW Wisconsin
Title: Re: Montana Bull... The joy and pain of elk hunting
Post by: JDunlap on September 30, 2012, 03:32:00 PM
Outstanding! Nice shooting.
Title: Re: Montana Bull... The joy and pain of elk hunting
Post by: sunny hill archer on September 30, 2012, 05:55:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Montanawidower:


I know the politically correct on this site don't care about compound kills so I'll omit the pictures of Jason and Bretts bulls.  Its a shame however,  because Brett's bull was a dandy..
I fail to see what political correctness has to do with following the rules.

Rules that have been in place since the inception of this website.

There are plenty of bow sites without rules and hence anarchy.

I think I'll take the rules.
Title: Re: Montana Bull... The joy and pain of elk hunting
Post by: rastaman on September 30, 2012, 10:57:00 PM
Way to go sir! Awesome animal!   :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Montana Bull... The joy and pain of elk hunting
Post by: Montanawidower on September 30, 2012, 11:24:00 PM
Thanks everyone....  It was a great hunt.    My wife just made the first batch of pasta with garden tomatoes and some of my bull.   I am thankful for bounty of this great state of ours.....  

Now its on to pointing dogs and whitetails....  Man I love the fall.  


PS  Sorry for the poor choice of words Sunny Hill.  You're right.  

In my defense, I'm a one camp'er and a mature bull taken with any bow is an accomplishment that you may not fully appreciate.   Also these guys are normally traditional archers.  

But rules are rules. So don't sweat,  I'm on board.
Title: Re: Montana Bull... The joy and pain of elk hunting
Post by: Al Kidner on October 01, 2012, 05:30:00 AM
Ahhhh.... Elk hunting....


Outstanding efforts mate. Well done.


ak.
Title: Re: Montana Bull... The joy and pain of elk hunting
Post by: wapiti792 on August 31, 2013, 10:48:00 PM
TTT for elk junkies waiting to travel  :)
Title: Re: Montana Bull... The joy and pain of elk hunting
Post by: zipper bowss on September 01, 2013, 08:35:00 AM
:clapper:  Love it when a plan comes together!
Bill
Title: Re: Montana Bull... The joy and pain of elk hunting
Post by: tracker12 on September 01, 2013, 08:53:00 AM
The season is among us.  I think this is going to be a great year.
Title: Re: Montana Bull... The joy and pain of elk hunting
Post by: Hopewell Tom on September 01, 2013, 08:58:00 AM
Good job and shot.
One thing about an Elk is the target area is large. The longer shot in the circumstances that you described is something that a good Hunter would do. And all's well that ends well.
Title: Re: Montana Bull... The joy and pain of elk hunting
Post by: varmint101 on September 01, 2013, 09:23:00 AM
Dadgum!  I missed this one last year.  Great story!  I hope you're all able to get on them again this year!

By the way, your "dink" would go on my wall!
Title: Re: Montana Bull... The joy and pain of elk hunting
Post by: JLeMieux on September 01, 2013, 10:16:00 AM
Agreed, great story and I hope your spot will produce again this year.