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Title: Drew a Wolf tag
Post by: NBK on September 15, 2012, 11:49:00 AM
Got a packet from our DNR yesterday informing me that I drew a havest tag for Wisconsin's first wolf hunt this season.  

Game on.
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Post by: 2treks on September 15, 2012, 12:15:00 PM
COOL, When do you hunt?
Good luck and keep us posted please.

CTT
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Post by: Coonbait on September 15, 2012, 12:22:00 PM
That's awesome! Loved to see one someday.
Good Luck
Glenn
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Post by: Gump21Bravo on September 15, 2012, 12:26:00 PM
Good luck. One of the animals on my bucket list. Hope you take us along....

Craig
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Post by: ron w on September 15, 2012, 12:45:00 PM
Cool....I guess I have to ask....how do you hunt a wolf.....??
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Post by: frassettor on September 15, 2012, 12:50:00 PM
Good luck, they are getting to be a real problem here. Are you going to bait them with a carcass?
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Post by: Terry Lightle on September 15, 2012, 01:06:00 PM
Congrats-That would be the trophy of a lifetime
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Post by: Ken Taylor on September 15, 2012, 04:20:00 PM
Great!

And, a wolf with a traditional bow is a realistic goal.

I've had them within excellent longbow range on several occasions while hunting moose, caribou, or black bears but didn't take the shot either because the season was later on or I was in a " native only fur bearer zone".

So, Good Luck!
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Post by: Whip on September 15, 2012, 04:33:00 PM
Congratulations Mike!  That should be quite a challenge.  Curious as to what your plans are on how to hunt them.  Bound to be a learning curve here to figure out what is effective.
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Post by: Kris on September 15, 2012, 05:23:00 PM
Interested to hear how it goes...please post back on any cool stories!  Best of luck!

Kris
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Post by: pamike on September 15, 2012, 05:28:00 PM
just a little bit jealous......
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Post by: BrownA5 on September 15, 2012, 10:56:00 PM
Congratulations!  Me, I will start with coyotes and maybe work my way up!  Have a great season...
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Post by: wooddamon1 on September 16, 2012, 10:59:00 AM
That's cool, good luck!
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Post by: Friend on September 16, 2012, 01:12:00 PM
Such a prized opportunity, wish you much success.


Will be waiting anxiously to read of your experience.
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Post by: Gen273 on September 16, 2012, 01:21:00 PM
:thumbsup:  That is great!!!
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Post by: Anointed Archer on September 16, 2012, 01:23:00 PM
Awesome, congrats and good luck!!!!!!
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Post by: STICKBENDER98 on September 16, 2012, 04:34:00 PM
Cool good luck Mike, what area of Wisconsin do you hunt?  Just curious since i spend 2-3 weeks every year in the western U.P. here in Michigan and they have been quite a problem here.  Hopefully our D N R will soon be following yours.  Keep us posted.
Title: Re: Drew a Wolf tag
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on September 16, 2012, 05:02:00 PM
i think if i drew a wolf tag, I'd use a smoke pole myself... but I'm curious what your plan of attack would be using a traditional bow.
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Post by: Jim Rocole on September 16, 2012, 08:12:00 PM
Mike
I also drew a tag. Haven't really thought about how to hunt them yet. Didn't expect to be drawn. More than likely I will use a leg snare. Season date is 10/15/12 - 2/28/13 or when the season quota is met. You cannot use animal parts or animal by-product to bait. Seems like liquid scents or predator calling only. I have used predator calling for coyotes so that may be the way I go.
Title: Re: Drew a Wolf tag
Post by: Green Mountain Boy on September 16, 2012, 08:49:00 PM
Sweeeeeet!  Can't wait to read about it!
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Post by: MD on September 16, 2012, 09:33:00 PM
Congrats our lottery had overwhelming results here also for MN first season combined hunting and trapping.  Hoping for a tag also
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Post by: ChuckC on September 16, 2012, 09:48:00 PM
Dang. .  it appears I got a preference point for next year.

Good luck guys.
ChuckC
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Post by: killinstuff on September 16, 2012, 10:03:00 PM
The only good wolf is a dead wolf.  To bad you can't make them all good wolves.  Good luck.
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Post by: Bakes168 on September 16, 2012, 11:00:00 PM
Congrats! That's awesome, good luck and let us know what happens    :archer:
Title: Re: Drew a Wolf tag
Post by: NBK on September 16, 2012, 11:16:00 PM
Well, the enormity of the challenge has settled in a bit and I'm hoping that I haven't used up all my luck in the drawing of the tag!  In all the time I've sat in a tree bowhunting I've only had a wolf in bow range (he was 15 yards) once.  Just once.

Now I love to hunt deer and I don't have as much time as I'd like to even do that, so that's a factor.  Also, in the regulations it states that the DNR has the right to close a zone early if the kill quota has been met.  Rifle season here is the week of Thanksgiving and I'm guessing that a whole lot of wolves are going to be shot, tags or no tags, so my season may not last until the stated Feb. 28th.

So being realistic, here's my initial plan.
I'm going to bowhunt whitetails like I always have.  The only difference I'm going to make is that I'm going to focus my deer hunting in a strip of black spruce that bisects a large area of open marsh swamp.  We had two different sightings of two wolves there last season and all animals like funnels, right?  I usually don't bait for deer, but that one time I had a wolf at bow range, he was scent checking the deer bait.
Odds are that this isn't going to produce, so starting in December I'm going to try an electronic predator call.  (I'd have better luck staking out my yellow lab with their propensity for killing dogs.)  I'd sure like to kill one with the longbow so the first setups will be in thick cover using my lonewolf climber so that I'm hitting a new area every time.  If it's getting towards the end, I'll take my rifle out of retirement one last time.
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Post by: Robhood23 on September 17, 2012, 09:44:00 AM
Congrats! I didn't draw but got a point!
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Post by: far rider on September 17, 2012, 10:04:00 AM
Man, that sure seems like a great opportunity. Best of luck and keep us posted as the season progresses. I think we all can use the experience you glean from this hunt. Congrats!
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Post by: Gila Mike on September 17, 2012, 10:36:00 AM
A friend of mine sent me this story a couple of days ago.

This guy in Montana got his by pretending to be an elk (and by being in the right place at the right time).

www.flatheadnewsgroup.com/hungryhorsenews/article_464a30b6-fce4-11e1-9b89-0019bb2963f4.html (http://www.flatheadnewsgroup.com/hungryhorsenews/article_464a30b6-fce4-11e1-9b89-0019bb2963f4.html)  


Given their daily range, going out to kill a wolf in a fair chase manner has got to be one of the most challenging goals a bowhunter could set for himself.

Mike
Title: Re: Drew a Wolf tag
Post by: NBK on September 17, 2012, 11:06:00 AM
Mike, Thanks for the article.  As far as my calling with the bow, I was thinking about using my fawn bleat, making it really pitchy and distressed, and throw in some coyote yips.  The wolves target coyotes as much as anything, so maybe I could get the dander up on one enough.  I'm also planning on using a group of branches from my tow rope in the tree stand to simulate ground noise, i.e. Mike Mitten's tactic for rattling.  All of this is such a long shot, but sometimes you just get a feeling about something.
Title: Re: Drew a Wolf tag
Post by: Gila Mike on September 17, 2012, 11:32:00 AM
I've never hunted them but I've been lucky enough to hear them a couple of times while I was hiking/camping in the northern Rockies. Being where the deer are most concentrated (if that's even possible) and making "lost fawn" bleating calls sounds like a really good plan to me.  

I envy you having the opportunity to try for one. Keep us posted on  la chasse , will you?

Good Luck!
Mike
Title: Re: Drew a Wolf tag
Post by: Ron LaClair on September 17, 2012, 06:26:00 PM
Many people will disagree with me but none the less, this is how I personally feel about killing wolves.  I know the wolf population in some areas needs to be controlled but as for myself I have no desire to kill a wolf. To me the wolf is like a brother, he's a hunter like I am, a provider for his family like I am. He has close family ties like I do. In many ways the wolf is like we are.

I'm not criticizing anyone that wants to hunt wolves, I'm just saying it's not for me.

Here's an interesting read    

 http://www.helium.com/items/1435970-reflections-comparing-humans-and-wolves

http://www.amazon.com/Wolves-Men-Barry-Holstun-Lopez/dp/0684163225
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Post by: Thumper Dunker on September 17, 2012, 06:40:00 PM
Go get him. I would go with fawn bleats and other deer distres stuff.
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Post by: Jason R. Wesbrock on September 17, 2012, 07:43:00 PM
Good luck filling your tag this fall. I thought about putting in for a tag, but the NR cost is a little more than I want to spend for a "just in case" permit. Although, two friends of mine had wolves within bow range this past weekend...
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Post by: Izzy on September 17, 2012, 07:46:00 PM
That is awesome. I think wolves are great and a true symbol of the wilderness but Id sure like to put a tag on one, only one. Good luck,. I dont know, but if it were me Id hunt wolf 1st and deer would be secondary with such a prized tag.
Title: Re: Drew a Wolf tag
Post by: Yellow Dog on September 17, 2012, 08:25:00 PM
Congrats on your tag, I wouldn't know where to start. Just a little info taken from the Michigan DNR website concerning Michigan Wolves in our Upper Peninsula.

687 Wolves taking up to 29,000 whitetail per year, hunters 42,000.  Pretty staggering numbers in my book.

"Many Michigan residents are concerned about the impacts of wolves on the Upper Peninsula deer population. The extent of those impacts is influenced by many factors. However, compared to the deer mortality caused by other sources, including other predators, the impact of wolves on the deer population is relatively small. Several studies have examined wolf kill rates, and recent estimates range from 30 to 50 deer eaten by an adult wolf each year. Wolves prey upon a variety of species, and the proportion of their diet comprised of deer changes continuously. Also, an unknown number of deer eaten by wolves may have died from other causes, such as winter conditions or vehicle collisions.
A population of 687 adult wolves (estimated Michigan wolf population in 2011) could eat between 17,000 and 29,000 deer annually. Many of these deer would have died from various other causes if wolves were not present (accidents, winter weather, diseases, etc.). Between 5,000 and 8,000 deer-vehicle crashes are reported annually in the U.P., and even more deer are killed in crashes that are not reported. A severe winter can kill 30 percent (or more) of the deer population. There are about 270,000 deer in the U.P., and hunters killed about 42,000 deer in 2010.
Wolves and deer evolved together, and deer possess physical and behavioral adaptations for avoiding wolf predation."
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Post by: Chromebuck on September 17, 2012, 08:45:00 PM
The ecological balancing act between predator and prey wears a stench that rivals the buffalo herds of the Great Plains.  

Come up here and hunt them with over the counter tags for non-residents, no guide requirement and you can hunt from a plane!(I recommend a very short recurve!)   :readit:  

Game Management Units 13 & 20 have a limit of ten per day.  This is all for perserving the population of ungulants which feed our interior populations, but more importantly brings out of state hunters $$$

Best of luck!  Even with populations as we have they are as wiley as the eldest doe/cow of any herd.

 :campfire:  

~CB
Title: Re: Drew a Wolf tag
Post by: NBK on September 17, 2012, 10:57:00 PM
Ron,
I'm really glad that you expressed those feelings about hunting wolves because I've been doing some soul searching myself.  I stated such in this post prior to even applying for a tag.  (It's near the bottom of the page)

http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=120040;p=1#000004

Contrary to many outdoorsmen in my area, I do not "hate" wolves and I'm glad that we have them.  There were no wolves to speak of when I was a kid, but since they've returned, the woods seems just a bit more "wild".  I love hearing them at dusk, if for no other reason than what else in our ordinary lives can raise the hair on the back of your neck like the lonely howl of a wolf?  
When I was 9 my Dad took me on a horseback elk hunt to Colorado and I read the children's book "Quetico Wolf" in the car on the way out.  I consider the combination of the week in the Rockies and that book as being developmental to my love the wilderness.  In the story, a wolf is killed by men, and I had a child's revulsion to the act.  Now, however, I view my hunting of a wolf as a responsibility above the challenge.  If a wolf must die, then let him die at the hands of a "brother" as you put it, as opposed to one of these sh&^-$%^ssed rednecks whose bound and determined to "lay the smack down on 'em!"  

I probably won't get the chance, but the one thing I've made certain for myself is that if I do kill one, it won't be dragged by the neck out of the woods and displayed at the local tavern.  It will be carried out and brought home.  
This thought process may seem melodramatic, but it's how I am and I make no apologies.
Title: Re: Drew a Wolf tag
Post by: Jim Rocole on September 18, 2012, 07:38:00 AM
Well said MIke. I can see Ron's point of view also. For me I see the taking of a wolf as no different tham any other predator I hunt (bear,Mtn Lion, coyote,fox,bobcat)Though I have a feeling this is going to be a much harder learning curve. I have contacted serveral property owners that I know have a pack in their area and I am in the process of formulating a plan.

Jim
Title: Re: Drew a Wolf tag
Post by: NBK on September 18, 2012, 09:01:00 AM
Good luck Jim.  If you develop any insights as the season goes on please spread the wealth!
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Post by: KentuckyTJ on September 18, 2012, 09:03:00 AM
Wow, what a great opportunity. Best of luck to you. I enjoy nothing more than running a shaft through a coyote. I shot under one last week. As I retrieved my arrow I picked up some hair from the underside of its rib cage. He was a big beautiful specimen and would have really enjoyed taking him.   One of the biggest challenges in bow hunting is to take a wild dog of any type. If successful you will have done something that is very tough to do.
Title: Re: Drew a Wolf tag
Post by: Ron LaClair on September 18, 2012, 09:41:00 AM
QuoteI probably won't get the chance, but the one thing I've made certain for myself is that if I do kill one, it won't be dragged by the neck out of the woods and displayed at the local tavern. It will be carried out and brought home. This thought process may seem melodramatic, but it's how I am and I make no apologies.  
Mike, it's too bad that more people don't have the respect for wolves that you do. They have always played an important role in natures balance in the wilderness. In modern times in the wilderness areas that man has created for himself, wolves have become competitors and therefore hated for doing what they always have done.

My hunting camp Shrew Haven is in the western end of Michigans Upper Peninsula. We have encountered wolves in the area many times over the years that the camp has been there. The wolves do take deer, how many I don't know but if you have seen the pictures that have been posted of our camp and our deer pole you can see that we have always had a good number of deer... despite the presents wolves.

The pack in our area moves around a lot so we don't always hear them but on those rare times when we're sitting outside at night around the fire and the wolves are hunting, it's the greatest concert you could ever attend. There's just something about the combination of a starlit sky, a crackling fire and the low drawn out howl of a wolf that stirs your soul. Be it genetic memory from thousands of years ago or whatever, you feel a connection. It seems natural, they way things have always been in the wild...and always should be.

Be that as it may, the wolves have to be controlled and a limited hunt in some areas is necessary.  

Whether you take a wolf or not I'm sure you will enjoy the opportunity to hunt them, good luck to you.
Title: Re: Drew a Wolf tag
Post by: Shedrock on September 18, 2012, 06:33:00 PM
We can hunt them here with no tag starting Oct 1st. Yippy, kill them all. A tag is still needed in the "trophy area".

I would use coyote howls, coyote/dog distress, and adult deer bawls. Good luck!!
Title: Re: Drew a Wolf tag
Post by: ron w on September 18, 2012, 10:41:00 PM
Some real diverse opinions......I guess I'm not sure where I stand. But with no wolves in New York I guess it's not an issue......Good luck on your hunt.......