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Title: cow elk and ivory poachers!
Post by: TURKEYFOOTGIRL on September 09, 2012, 10:11:00 PM
With the hot dry year we have been having I figured I had better hunt the water for my best chance on an elk.  Friday morning I watched a herd of about 50 drop into a canyon where I killed a cow near a wallow last year.  I got ahead of them and cruised up a tree with my lone wolf climber.  After a few minutes I could hear lots of cow talk and some bull squealing right below me.  They stayed below for a while but never came up.  I did some scouting and found a much better wallow several hundred yards below.  I moved my stand up a tree down there and sat the last 4 hours of light.  After only an hour I had 3 spikes come right in and spent a half hour close by.  I even had two of them sniffing my tree.  It was awesome to hear them so close burpin  and gruntin  and carrying on. unfortunately spikes arent allowed in this area. .  A bit before dark I had a lone cow come in.  With a B tag in my pocket I decided to take her if the shot presented itself.   She came in fast and I had to stop her with a lip squek in my shooting window.  She looked in my direction and I rushed the shot fearing she might bolt.  My arrow zipped through her in front of the shoulder bone and she jumped a few feet than looked around wondering than slowly walked off.  I could see blood trickling down but not enough to think I hit the jugular.   At dark I eased down and found my arrow which was covered in blood.  I eased along on a decent blood trail for about 150 yards and heard her take off.   I slipped up and found her bed and decided to resume in the morning.  
 At first light I was glassing the area from a high ridge before I slipped down to last blood.  I could here a. Bull bugling and two different groups of hunters calling to it.  I got back on the blood an hour after light and found the trail much easier to follow in the day. After several hundred yards I found her quite dead beneath a tree.  As I approached I could see I wasn't the first to find her as she was covered with grass on her hindquarters, and half of one was eaten. While I was trailing I could hear a couple people cow calling down in the valley I was trailing her in.  After I finished quartering  her I opened her mouth to get the ivories.   Imagine my surprise to find someone had already cut them out.  Apparently the other hunters found her first and decided they wanted the ivories?  Oh well, I was happy to have found her.  
 I than headed back to my tree and got my stand and made a sweet frame pack out of the lone wolf climber and hauled a load out while another hunter I met carried out a front quarter and the back straps.  Great weekend even with the ivory poachers.
(http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/hillbilly-kim/CHRISCOW1.jpg)

(http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/hillbilly-kim/CHRISCOW3.jpg)
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Post by: stykbow67 on September 09, 2012, 10:42:00 PM
Nice job  :thumbsup:  that will be some fine eatin for sure!

Steve
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Post by: ksbowman on September 09, 2012, 10:44:00 PM
Great job of finding her! It's a pity that a critter got to part of the meat and a lower critter took the ivories! Still I'd have been very happy with the part you salvaged.
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Post by: on September 09, 2012, 10:49:00 PM
Congrats on the cow...glad you found her! It's a shame that someone took the ivories though.

Bisch
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Post by: Gen273 on September 09, 2012, 10:51:00 PM
Sorry about the poachers, but congrats on the harvest!!!
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Post by: Over&Under on September 09, 2012, 10:53:00 PM
Wow...that would have been a trip to find them missing...
Great job following up on her...congrats!

Did your autopsy find the reason for death?...did ya get the jugular?
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Post by: Thumper Dunker on September 09, 2012, 11:48:00 PM
Way to go on the cow . That would tick me off about the ivories. But you can't eat them.
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Post by: Izzy on September 10, 2012, 06:14:00 AM
Nice, mature, old gal. Congrats.
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Post by: Panzer on September 10, 2012, 07:32:00 AM
Congratulations, but thats bizarre.
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Post by: wooddamon1 on September 10, 2012, 09:12:00 AM
Congrats, sucks about the poachers, though...
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Post by: J. Holden on September 10, 2012, 09:47:00 AM
Nice job on the elk.  Curious though, I've never heard of the "ivories".  Not to highjack the thread but do they get sold?  Are they indeed ivory?  Thanks for the education...

-Jeremy  :coffee:
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Post by: wingnut on September 10, 2012, 10:02:00 AM
Sounds like the other hunters came across a cat kill and harvested the ivories.  Would have had to look close to see that it was a bow kill being that it was covered and partly eaten.

Good recovery.

Mike
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Post by: JimB on September 10, 2012, 10:51:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by fdlz58:
Nice job on the elk.  Curious though, I've never heard of the "ivories".  Not to highjack the thread but do they get sold?  Are they indeed ivory?  Thanks for the education...

-Jeremy   :coffee:  
They are the canine teeth of the elk and are ivory.I wish I had a better closeup picture.They have amber colored rings on the surface and polished up,are often used in jewelry.
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/jbrandenburg/ElkMouthReference022.jpg)
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Post by: Shinken on September 10, 2012, 10:56:00 AM
This is most unfortunate when these type of things happen - especially so in the great State of Montana....

  :archer2:
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Post by: Keith Zimmerman on September 10, 2012, 11:57:00 AM
Congrats on the kill and recovery.  Nice pics.  Seems like some hunters found a cat kill and didnt want the ivories to go to waste.  I guess I dont blame them.
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Post by: BrownA5 on September 10, 2012, 01:08:00 PM
Congratulations on the Cow Elk!
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Post by: Bernie B. on September 10, 2012, 01:12:00 PM
Congratulations on your exciting hunt and recovery!  Nice pictures also.  I also think some hunters probably found a cat kill and didn't want the ivories to go to waste.

Bernie Bjorklund

NC Iowa/SW Wisconsin
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Post by: Biggamefish on September 10, 2012, 03:34:00 PM
I have never been elk hunting.  Do you sell the teeth (that is what I assume you are talking about).
If not please educate me.
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Post by: Biggamefish on September 10, 2012, 03:34:00 PM
hit button to quick sorry
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Post by: Glunt on September 10, 2012, 03:41:00 PM
Congrats!  Boy, that was a busy hillside.
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Post by: stujay on September 10, 2012, 03:47:00 PM
Always good to have elk in the freezer.
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Post by: centaur on September 10, 2012, 04:17:00 PM
Good job on the cow. Takes some kind of low life to take the ivories, though.
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Post by: TURKEYFOOTGIRL on September 10, 2012, 07:42:00 PM
The hunters did know it was a bow kill as the other hunter who helped me pack the elk ran into them and they told him so.  It wasn't really a big deal to me, I just found it kind of surprising when I opened her mouth.
 Biggamefish,  no I don't sell the ivories but I did have a real cool ring made for my wife with my first set of ivories.  Its just something a lot of elk hunters collect from their kills.  They are not teeth but actual ivory like a tusk.  I have heard that they are the remains of an ancient time when elk used to have tusks in the mastadon era but have no idea if that's true?
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Post by: blaster on September 10, 2012, 08:13:00 PM
Nice job brother!! I was waiting to see the story on here. What model broadhead did you use? Hope to skewer a WI whitetail this weekend with a big ole treeshark!!
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Post by: TURKEYFOOTGIRL on September 10, 2012, 10:24:00 PM
Used a glue on simmons safari with a steel adapter for a 265 grain killing utensil.
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Post by: Over&Under on September 10, 2012, 10:33:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Over&Under:

Did your autopsy find the reason for death?...did ya get the jugular?
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Post by: TURKEYFOOTGIRL on September 10, 2012, 11:32:00 PM
Over&under-sorry i missed your question earlier.
I don't believe I got the jugular but probably a smaller vein and the windpipe?  The blood trail was a steady trickle with no spraying and her mouth was filled with blood yet the arrow never entered the rib cage/ lungs.  Not an expert but jugular hits front the past have had mass amounts of blood and spraying?