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Title: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: mike g on January 17, 2007, 11:57:00 AM
I don't want to boar you guy's again, Butt last night we went Beaver Huntin again....
    No Moon and the water had a slight ripple on it, makes it hard to spot the suckers on swimming....
    This time my Uncle Charlie Brown went along....He got his first trad Kill....
    I missed 2 of them and Killed one and it bit my arrow in half befor it died....
    We had a Blast and had freezing rain fall on us for a short time....
    Ooops got to go to the Chiropractor...
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: philil on January 17, 2007, 12:16:00 PM
Oh c'mon...don't be that guy   :cool:
Can not imagine to ever get bored with hunting pictures! Bet you took some nice ones!
I think I'm gonna have to find me some beavers, this sounds like a lot of fun.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: Stone Knife on January 17, 2007, 12:17:00 PM
Mike,
I never get bored hearing about your hunts. I wish we could hunt the things around here. It sounds like a blast.
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: Dryrot on January 17, 2007, 12:19:00 PM
How about a little detail on the how part, like how do you keep them from disapearing after you shoot them.
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: mike g on January 17, 2007, 03:06:00 PM
Dryrot....
    Thats the trick....
If ya see on on land or water the trick is how close can ya get befor they disapear....
    The two that I missed I didn't take the chance of getting closer, So I missed maybe 12-15 yd shots....Plush they were swimming, one was swimming paralle to us the other straight away....
    The one I did get was in the water, butt when he saw us he tried to sneak in the Tullies....I had a perfect side shot at maybe 5yds....I double lunged him, he turned around and bit my Aluminum arrow into and then jumped in the water....Lots of blood, and he sank....
    The fun of these guys is ya never know where there going to be, out in the middle of the river, in the tullies with gold eyes looking at you or just on the bank....
    Sometomes they get right along side of the Boat and splash and scare the heck out of you....
    Another good deal is, it's an inexspencive hunt, we always see beaver and always get a couple of chances to loose an arrow....
    If ya do miss the Arrow floats unless it sticks in the mud or a Beaver....
    I have been 3 times so far and last night was the Darkest, no moon and it was the coldest nite so far....
    So you have no chance to warm up, your sitting there cold and then you have an adrenalin rush and have to loose an Arrow....
    It is a blast.........
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: KyleAllen on January 17, 2007, 04:55:00 PM
You had me wanting to do some of this again about a week ago. We and a buddy were gonna head out to where a large creek meets a local lake. We see lots of em while sandbassin. I called up texas parks and wildlife and asked if it was legal to take beavers with a bow on a public waterway, at night, using an artificial light. I got a very definite NO. I never wouldve guessed that. Who wouldve thunk cali was more liberal on the matter than texas? Craziness i tell ya. Anybody else got any info on this subject in texas?
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: yleecoyote23 on January 17, 2007, 05:19:00 PM
Awesome story Mike!! What a great way to spend some time!
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: Kingstaken on January 17, 2007, 05:23:00 PM
Is your set up like bow fishing?
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Post by: pete p on January 17, 2007, 05:28:00 PM
so the one you hit sank? were you able to retreeve him?
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Post by: wifishkiller on January 17, 2007, 05:31:00 PM
Pics lol Gotta love the beaver hunts
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Post by: Rich LaBombard on January 17, 2007, 05:31:00 PM
I got to admit, this one has NEVER occured to me!
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: mike g on January 17, 2007, 06:13:00 PM
Kingstaken....
    I use a Longbow and regular Easton Aluminum Arrows and a Broadhead I get from Austraila....
    Where not sure if you can use the bowfishing arrows with the Barb....Because here ya cant use a barb on a Broadhead while Hunting butt you can while Bowfishing.

Pete P....
    No I did not retrive him....
We are not always able to retrieve the Beavers do to various reason out in the River....
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: curlis on January 17, 2007, 07:23:00 PM
Mike,

Are you guys still shooting on Thursday? I have got to hear this story first hand.
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: mike g on January 17, 2007, 07:40:00 PM
Bill....
    Yes we are....
And I could arrange for you to go with us some nite....
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: Roger Norris on January 17, 2007, 09:52:00 PM
Why are you shooting them if you can't retrieve them?
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: mike g on January 17, 2007, 10:15:00 PM
Roger....
   I explained this befor....
Beavers here are a pest, they tunnel into the leveys and damage them....
   A beaver is North Americas biggest Rat....With 1000 miles of waterways here, Damaged leveys are a Danger....Around here they have no predators to hunt them except Man, and very few people Hunt them....
   We try or best to recover when we can....
End of subject, I knew sooner or later this would come up....
   This will be the last post concerning Beaver Hunting I will ever post....
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: Roger Norris on January 17, 2007, 10:32:00 PM
Don't be so sensitive, I just asked "why"...

Is trapping banned in California? Lots of gas money in beaver pelts.

We shot a couple (under a damage permit here in MI). The young ones are darned good on the grill. No joke.
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: mmgrode on January 17, 2007, 11:41:00 PM
They would also be worth retrieving to earn some money for their pelts. Many fur buyers will even skin and dry them though you won't get as much for them. Why not right? Take care, Matt
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: Bpaul on January 18, 2007, 12:43:00 AM
Trying to find a way to ask this that won't create an embarassing second meaning.      :rolleyes:    

...

Is the meat good to eat?

...

There I did it LOL.     :D    

I'm always looking for situations where problem animals are available, edible, and huntable with a bow.  Of course I couldn't do this in Oregon, but wanted to ask regardless.

thanks

B
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: curlis on January 18, 2007, 01:26:00 AM
Mike,
I'll be there tomorrow! Get your stories ready.
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: KrEn on January 18, 2007, 05:24:00 AM
I can certainly see the point of hunting beaver without bothering too much with retrieval.
Quite often they are pests, building dams and destroying valuable forest or property, digging holes, plugging drain lines etc..

I was beaver hunting here last spring. Since i was after the fur and meat, and the water was 0°C, i ended up just watching swimming beavers at close range through a riflescope, never taking a shot.

However, the landowner quickly determined that my progress was too slow, and brought in the cavalry.
He used a total of 12kg dynamite to blow up 4 beaver huts, complete with beavers and all.
Talk about not retrieving them...

K
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: Shakes.602 on January 18, 2007, 05:26:00 AM
I Know First-Hand how Destructive the LongToothed Varmints are. Thats been a couple of Years ago, and the Really tangle up a Nice Woods by the "Cuttings".  :thumbsup:    :campfire:
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: Stone Knife on January 18, 2007, 06:01:00 AM
Around these parts you should see the damage to timber these things do. They will take a nice cherry tree cut it down and destroy it, they flood crop land plug up culverts and so on. They are truly nothing but  huge rat in my book. They cost people a lot of money every year. In the right areas they are a benefit and fun to watch but there numbers should be kept in check. We cant hunt them in NY only trapping is allowed, i don't trap but i sure would like to shoot some maybe some day the state will let us.
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: Roger Norris on January 18, 2007, 06:48:00 AM
Bpaul - yep, they are great. We had a couple younger ones, we roasted one in the oven, and grilled one. Both came out excellent.
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: JStark on January 18, 2007, 02:11:00 PM
To answer a question posted higher up, trapping is illegal in California now.
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: Dryrot on January 18, 2007, 02:24:00 PM
Mike - I also concur with the pest issue I understand and see the damage they do around here as well and have no problem with a dmage control hunt. My only thought would be "darn I'd like to have had that pelt, oh well".
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: Mr.Chuck on January 18, 2007, 09:36:00 PM
Mike,  I notice some concern with not collecting them after the kill.  I shoot rats, possums and skunks as pest too, and I don't alway have the opportunity to collect them, under certain conditions. But I don't loose any sleep over it either. Where ever you take one, there are five to take it's place! Beaver are a pest, and the damage they have caused to crops and property the last ten years has been unbelieveable, by causing the levies to collaspes and flood agriculture and resident areas. Man is their only predator, and there very few of us that hunt them. As far as eating,  there are some beavers that are just not meant to be eaten.  These are some of those beavers!
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: bwillhunt on January 18, 2007, 09:52:00 PM
Mike,
Keep up the good stories.  With all the modernization and development in our country many thigs have been let go ie. trapping.
Were I live in south florida many pests have gotten out of control due to this loss.  We dont have beavers but we have problems with otters,coons,and hogs.  An otter can desroy a good fish pond in a matter of days only to eat the gills out of each fish.  Hogs were do i start These criiters yes are tasty and fun to hunt but when you have farmers begging hunters to kill as many as possible know matter size or sex all cannot be consumed.  We donated over 100 hogs to a poor neighbor hood until they asked us to stop.  Pests need to kept in check one way or another.
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: Ron LaClair on January 19, 2007, 10:15:00 AM
All of Gods creatures have a purpose and should not be wantonly destroyed for "sport". They are on this earth for our use and to kill them just for the sake of killing is a waste in my opinion.

In some areas of dense human population some animals need to be kept in check. Thanks to the anti's, trapping has been banned in some areas. Also because of anti's, fur is no longer as popular as it once was.

We all know that bow hunting is the next target of anti hunters so we need to be aware of our image in the eyes of non hunters. Non hunters being in the majorty will in the end decide wheather we will bow hunt or not. Killing animals without utilizing the fur or meat will not ensure our future to hunt.     "[dntthnk]"

The Beaver played an important role as a fur bearer in the settling of this country. It was because of the beaver that trappers pushed west exploring and mapping during their quest for this highly prized furbearer. Beaver were revered by the natives and were a source of wealth and food for them. So to call this animal a rat and a lowly pest is disrespectful in my opinion.

The fur of the beaver is beautiful and their meat is rich, sweet and delicious. Here's a link to tell you more about this industrious little animal.

 http://www.beaversww.org/beaver.html
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: Roger Norris on January 19, 2007, 10:26:00 AM
Great post Ron.
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: Ron LaClair on January 19, 2007, 11:48:00 AM
If man thinks of the beaver as a pest, I wonder what the beaver thinks of man?      :confused:    

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaver    

    http://www.nhptv.org/Natureworks/beaver.htm
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: Kingstaken on January 19, 2007, 01:59:00 PM
Ron,
On the money.
I'm sure and hope the recent posts were not meant to be heard as some of us did.
Funny, was in PA a couple of weeks ago at Acahela Boyscout Camp for what was suposed to be a sledding trip. (Found out you get friction burns with out snow on the ground  ).  I was simply amazed and aweed to see the power of the beaver's jaws on the trees a few of them were working. If one could harness their power and precison.
Like it's been said, were all Gods creatures here for a reason that none of us here are earth will ever understand.
"His ways are not our ways...."
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: Talondale on January 19, 2007, 02:37:00 PM
All Mike said was that he wasn't always able to retrieve the beaver due to various reasons while on moving water.  Seems reasonable to me.
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: Ron LaClair on January 19, 2007, 03:17:00 PM
No mention was made of what was done with the beaver that were retrieved.  Wheather the fur was sold or the meat eaten. Or if the whole carcass was just discarded? The latter would be a waste of a valuable resource IMO.

In most parts of the Country the beaver is protected by game laws and kept in control by trapping. In these places they are considered a valuable game animal.

 Thanks to the Liberals in Califorina trapping is no longer a method of population control in that state. As a result now the beaver is considered a nuisance and a pest?    :confused:
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: mike g on January 19, 2007, 06:32:00 PM
One Beaver is still in the freezer at the Taxidermist....
    The other one I processed the Skull and the hide went to Cathy so she could Tan it....
    I love to recover them for the pelts and the Skulls....
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: pete p on January 19, 2007, 06:36:00 PM
funny....i wonder what the beaver think of man! i wonder what bambi and thumper think of the big bad hunter
Title: Re: "Beaver Hunt" 3
Post by: Stone Knife on January 19, 2007, 06:58:00 PM
It seems the whole fur market is down the toilet because of anti's. When i was a kid you could make darn good money selling fur. I would pick up road killed coons and get $15 to $20 for them not bad money for little effort. Now with no one trapping they can become very destructive. The village that i work for had a problem with them flooding a spring box for the village water supply and causing contamination of the water. At first they tried to hook the dams out with a backhoe. But you know how industrious the beaver is, the next day the dam was being repaired and before long it was better than before. They ended getting a permit from the state to destroy them but after the beaver was killed it had to be buried you couldn't even take the pelt or any thing. Now the water system has been updated and that box was raised and steps taken to further seal it off. And guess what the beavers are still there more than ever now. But not a problem now. No need to worry you cant kill them all there survivors like many other creatures are. At times a pain in the butt.