Could someone explain the benefits of a static recurve limb. I have seen several bows from the 1950's era that have this configuration, but you don't see many produced these days. I assume it's because the cast of a longbow or a working recurve is superior. What are your thoughts??
there was a post a while back that gave an excellant explanation of static tips. Actually, static tip recurves are more effecient and quieter than working tip recurves, but you don't see many because from what I understand, they are harder to produce. I have a bow with static tips and love it, in fact I ordered another.
Static tips use leverage to increase the eficiency of the draw. As string angle increases, leverage is lost and you have to pull harder to store the same amount of energy in the limbs. The static tips lower string angle and therefore allow the same energy storage with less effort.
Plus, they are just plain cool looking.
Does any manufacturer of Olympic class limbs make static limb set for ILF riser?
I anticipate that where price is less important than performance, static limb sets would be available.
Lance,
I've thought about this, as well. Having heard that static tips were more efficient and smoother would make it a sure thing in the ILF market. I wonder if it has been done and why it isn't more prevalent.
They might be accomplishing the same or better with materials and other designs...would be an interesting topic to read, though.
Since there has been no response identifying a target limb manufacturer who offers static recurve limb sets, I suspect the benefits of static recurve limbs are nothing to get excited about.
I have looked at the static recurve as if the limbs work like a crow-bar: leverage, immediate tension.
Contrast this to the more commercial version of recurve limbs which unspool like a rolled carpet.
"Since there has been no response identifying a target limb manufacturer who offers static recurve limb sets, I suspect the benefits of static recurve limbs are nothing to get excited about."
I think if you shot an RER, you'd change your mind. Us knuckledraggers with long draw's LOVE static tip recurves. The fact that no one makes static tipped limbs for a target bow means diddly squat.
Who is making them today, I see older styles but cant find new ones. Thanks.
could someone please post a picture of a static tip recurve or give a name of one, i am curious and i have never seen one at least one that i could identify as one.
thanks
Here is the static tip on my 52" Texas Recurve Comanche.
(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j299/grizbait/TexasTip.jpg)
The new Sheepeater Spirit made by Black Mountain Bows has static tips also.
Rusty
I think what Lance was driving at was that if the companies that spend millions in r/d on the Olympic equipment thought that static tips were worth exploring, they would....a discussion of those in the know of why/why not might be interesting.
RER makes a great bow, I've owned several and still own an Arroyo...diddly squat might not explain it quite right, though.
If anyone has real insight, it would be interesting to hear.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v440/hs6181/Bill%20McNeal%20static%20recurve/mobmain3.1.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v440/hs6181/Bill%20McNeal%20static%20recurve/bows4009.1.jpg)
2 views of my favorite bow
Classic Bowhunting Company makes the "Sheepeater" recurve.Another modern day static tip recurve is John Fazio's Ballistik.I had a Bear Static Tip Recurve that I should have kept.
Sovereign Archery[John Fazio]also has a one piece called the Trident I should have mentioned.
Static limbs would be a challenge to build with carbon.
If your looking for an eurasian style recurve check out Saluki bows. These style of bows always have static tips. Grozer and Kassai also make eurasian style bows with static tips. The bows made by Grozer and Kassai use fiberglass limbs.
I have a feeling that the reason there arent static tiped ILF limbs is because, with those super light weight arrows they shoot, combined with the excess weight at the tips to stiffen them, it would add up to some serious hand shock, which isnt good when you shoot alot of arrows.
With most trad hunting guys shooting several medium to heavy arrows at short ranges, it probably isnt relevent.
Just a thought...........
Jack Kemph makes his quick styk recurve with static tips
Current makers of bows with static limbs are, RER, Sovereign, Charing, Horne ( semi-static), Acadian ( semi-static), and I am certain there are others that I do not know about or can't think of at the present. I have shot some static limb recurves and find they seem to be a bit faster than standard limb recurves, but speed isn't everything. All of the makers mentioned above make excellent quality bows.
Louis
Bob Morrison's new-style Cheyenne recurve limbs are semi-static, and I LOVE the way they shoot... quick, quiet, and smoooooooooth at my 29" draw with a 58" bow. I'd sure recommend looking at them.
Daryl
I believe the Horne Brush bow is a static limb recurve. RAWHIDE has/had a nice one for sale as does/did HUNTSMANLANCE on this site.
http://shrewbows.com/ss_lil_fav/
RER has made static tips with carbon limbs. <><
I am talking the old time static limbs Frank. Like the old Bears. Lots of bows are static tipped now, meaning very stiff at the ends, the CX design stiffens the tips. The angles aren't like on those brushnock bows though.
You are right David. I don't think carbon would even work on Brent's Sheepeater Spirits which are VERY STATIC tips although not as harsh an angle as the old Bears. Did I mention I got to shoot it a bunch last weekend?? LOL!!! I love that Obsidian!!!
AAHH gotcha Dave. :smileystooges: <><
could someone send some close up pics of the static tips on a ballistic ?
Rick Perry try this www.stickbow.com/sovereignarchery (http://www.stickbow.com/sovereignarchery) John Fazio has a nice site with plenty of pictures.
Hey Rick, here's a couple of pics, strung, unstrung, and tip. (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/richbear/Ballistic037A.jpg)
Unstrung. (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/richbear/Ballistic036A.jpg)
Tip. (http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/richbear/Ballistic002a.jpg)
fazio makes carbon limbs for the ballistik...not that they really need them for they are some of the fastest bows i have ever seen in my life without carbon...my ballistiks are also whisper quiet..just an all around great bow...
thanks for the pics ..... could you zoom in on the last 8-10 inches of the limb ....... need to see the lams
Does anyone here own an Assenheimer? Are they static recurves?
Red Chavez makes the bitterroot static tip. Had one once and it was a very nice bow.