I was wondering how many people in the world have killed a Rocky Mountain Goat with a traditional bow. I know of four, TD hunter, Larry D.Jones, Fred Eichler, and myself. I have seen pictures or heard of maybe another 1/2 dozen people. If you have, someone you know or know of (credible) please post it up here.
I just was pondering the toughness of the game, country, weather, costs ( finacially/mentally/physically/emotionally) how many have tried and been sucessfull.
Tim
This is my dream hunt and I remember some of those who have taken a goat.
Marv Clyncke
Todd Clyncke
Connie Rennfro
Steve Hohennsee
Luke Woodruff
Dale Struble
T. Craig
Tom Vanasche in the last TB magazine.
I know I've missed a few.
Forgot one already and that is Neil Jacobsen who was a Boyer for Bear Paw bows.
Paul Schafer, eh?
Steve Gorr ?
Fred Bear ?
Did Asbell get one.......? Don Thomas? My dream hunt also, now I'm not sure I could do it physically!.......It would be fun to try.....lol!
I killed one in 1989 just outside of Golden in British Columbia, 70# @ 28" "Hill Style" Longbow and a PortOrford Cedar shaft with a 190 Grizzly on the business end.
Oh man those were the days!!!
Regards.
Bert.
Tom Tietz
Pat Lefemine
Didn't even think about him but Howard Hill took two
Probably more folks have taken one then you think. Congrats to you Bert. Never too late for the hunt story.
twenty one is the count so far, if ? are counted in. I was thinking around 1000-2000 world wide as a guess. I know of one more from the kuiusite so twenty two it is at this point.
Didn't have a tag so settled for this picture.
(http://www.tradgang.com/upload/charlie/mountaingoat.jpg)
I got one in 2010 I think. The traditional records by P&Y showed about 175 entries at that time. Obviously lots have been taken with trad tackle but not entered in P&Y.
I killed one in 2004. Quite a few of the guys that I hunt with have killed Mtn goats here in CO with traditional equipment: Dean Derby Scot Hamilton Eric Sawyer Mike Koenig (Mike killed his with a self bow). I put in for 17 years before I drew a resident tag. I would attach a photo but don't seem to be able to upload to Photobucket. Jim
Now 202, les see some of the picture to go along with the record.
here is mine on highlights page link below.
http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=179;t=000100
I have killed 2 in colorado one with recurve and one with longbow. My brother Jim has also killed 2 in Colorado both with recurves.
I know that the four biggest in co. records were taken with trad gear.I also know a good number of Co. bowhunters that have taken goats with trad Bows.
I have killed three (1 CO, 2 AK) and have a bunch of friends that also have killed at least one. Many more goats have been saved from me due to routine extended bad weather where I hunt in SEAK.
It would be a great adventure! Congrats to all of those who have been fortunate to harvest one or even chase these critters around.
I killed one with a Savage Deathmaster 35 years ago.
gw
I know of several in Washington, going back in time. Fred Bear took a billy in the Yukon in 1955-56, and Glenn St Charles, got one in Canada about the same time.
A dream hunt...
One day.
ak.
x2 AK.
they are a bit out of my league financially though, as are sheep.
i happily settle for hunting chamios and tahr in New Zealand. tahr are every bit the equal of a mtn goat and they live in harder terrain IMO, when compared to the terrain i've seen them in while in BC a few years ago.
MARIO LOCATELLI from Hamilton,MT has taken at least 3 with his longbow.
I killed a real nice billy "back in the day" in
Alaska on a DIY hunt. (Just before the guide rule was implemented) Jim Davison also got one on that hunt.
Oh, forgot to add, got him with a Black Widow recurve.
I,ve taken two here in CO,
First 1991
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Second 2000
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they are a tough critter, first one I heart shot with a zwickey delta, ran a long ways then jumped off a cliff, second I shot square in the lungs with a magnus #1---twice-- and he lived 9 minutes then jumped off a cliff.
I believe all of these guys took one in Colorado.
Gary Renfro
Wayne Depperschmidt
Mike Hays
Also, Bill Grammer
Ron Rockwell
Jim Anderson
Jake Powell
Matt Archuleta
Troy Cunningham
All Co. bowhunters
224 so far, I would guess that some of these count in the total for pope and young traditional entries (don't know what this number would be, but I'm sure some poeple have entered into P and Y. this also only is hunters that have killed, actual goats that hunters have killed, since many are saying they have shot multiple goats.
Quite a few of my customers have taken goats with traditional bows,both in NT and AK.There may be more than you think.
I drew a once in a lifetime tag for the residents only mountain goat season in the Black Hills of South Dakota in 2003. Only 3 licenses where given out and about 2100 people applied. I had 17 years preference and was amazed to have been drawn. There haven't been any mountain goat tags given out for a few years now as the population is really low.
I shot a billy on about the 10th day of hunting with my Black Widow longbow. Back packed into the Black Elk wilderness area on Harney Peak. Only a 3 hour pack in, but some nice rugged terrain to hunt. This may be the best DIY hunt I will ever do and it was out my back door!
I took one in 94 and my hunting buddy Lenny Brown took one in 2005 (I think, it may have been 2006). I know of several others locally who have taken one with trad gear. If you don't mind the high places, and getting there, the hardest part in Montana is drawing the tag.
What a fun thread to read through... Congrats to all who have taken goats. There are bowhunters and then there are BOWHUNTERS.
I've hunted them twice in BC,but never got one.I remember Gene Wensels picture with hid Savage bow,back when Bowhunter magazine first came out,in 1971.
I beleive Greg Munther took one as well with his trad gear if I read it right it was in tbm last year
I hunted them once in BC. Never got close enough to shoot. Rugged hunt for sure.... Ready to book another just making money to do it....
I killed one in '89 with a 72# take down Longbow, OOOoohh those were the days, it was a Nanny with 9"+ Horns, F&W aged her at 18yrs old, I think I did that old girl a favour, she had no teeth left and probably would not have made it through the winter.
I would post a picture but I don't know how, we used 35 mm film back in those days.
Regards.
Bert.
Just had a brain wave, here is a picture of what the old girl looks like today.
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh216/quartermoonlongbows/P1000232.jpg)
That's a great looking goat Bert! What a cool trophy, and well deserving of a full body mount.
Talking with someone last summer they suggested that a nanny tag is much easier to draw in some places. I haven't done any research to verify that, but reading through this thread has just sparked the interest again.
And what a GREAT story goes along with your goat, Bert!
I had the great pleasure of being with 2 of my best hunting partners when they each killed good billies in 1989 and 1991 in the Black Hills of South Dakota. They were both killed with Dale Dye recurves and both are P&Y.
My "Uncle" Barry Smith has taken two in CO.
Congrats to all who have! I am still waiting for a Wyo tag. 20 years of applying, it may never happen.
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I'll keep hunting them with my camera until I get drawn for a tag. Washington has a pretty good population but unfortunately bow hunters get thrown in with rifle hunters for the draw and your odds are not soooo good. Kinda like our moose tags :( I go up into the Cascades every year after early elk and look for goats and bugle elk for fun, great time of year to see critters before the rifle guys get after them.
I took an mature nanny in 1987 with a Bighorn recurve. Was in the Weimenuche Wilderness of Colorado. I was impressed at the country they could casually travel. I recall two things particularly about that hunt. 1'st, the 1'st day I was hunkered down waiting out a storm on a steep hillside. When it was over, I stood up, and the binoculars I had on my lap rolled down the mountain, picking up speed. Eventually they hit a boulder and disenegrated. 2'nd, I had told myself if I were to get one, I would take two trips out. Well, I was tired of roughing it, and went out in one trip. My pack was around 100 pounds and it was 8 miles to the train. My legs were hurting for many days afterward. I would do this again in a heartbeat!
Fantastic pic Elkken!
This is my hunting buddies dream hunt. Good thing he has mountaineering experience....
Great pics and great critters. A sure enough achievement.
This is another fun post. I'd love to see more pics!
Stan Rauch in SD has taken at least one...also I think Dick Robertson took one last year (?) or maybe two years ago...I think. And Dick did it with a sinew backed osage recurve too.
I can think of a couple other locals...probably the same ones Walt knows.
I got to hunt them one year. I think I'm eligible to put in again this year....hmmm. Hope it does'nt take me another 25 to get drawn!
Here's a pic when I had a tag last winter, fairly brutal hunt with cold temps, extreme winds, and working thru the crags in it. Saw a lone goat slip over the edge and disappear. I hot-footed over there, knocked and arrow, and slowly rose up at the edge... To see a nanny and kid at 3 yards or so. It was fun. Saw some other goats but no shooting. Here's some pics from that trip.
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My pack, bow, and ice ax a few yards from the cliff edge.
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A different view.
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And looking over the edge into the bowl.
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I walk past and thru them pretty regular in the fall, but without a draw tag so they're off limits. Might just take a trip to an OTC area next fall, I'll just wait and see what else develops. Really neat critters. A few more pics but from the fall not winter.
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A young nanny at a few yards.
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A big nanny at 30 yards or so.
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This is a nanny I harvested this last October here in Utah.
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cool thread
I have a friend that shot one in Montana in 2008 I think. The impressive part is that he had both knees replaced a couple of years before the hunt.
Stan Rauch took one in Colorado back in the nineties. This was before he moved to Montana and then to South Dakota.
I was lucky enough to draw a tag in Utah last year and ended up taking a beautiful Billy with my recurve. It was a solo un-guided hunt and I have to say it was the adventure of a life time and I wish everyone could have a chance to hunt them with Traditional Archery Gear. Jim Eeckhout
I got one in 2006 in the Crazy mtns of MT. Avatar. Awesome hunt! Get to apply again in 2014. My son and I went backpacking into the Crazys this past summer. Saw 15 goats on day 2 of hike. I want that tag again!
Great thread!!
heres one of my hero's. RIP Paul
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Two of my friend took 3 altogether.
One got drawn twice the other waited 17 years.
Mountain goat does not rank high on my "got to hunt" list, although they're quite tasty...
Worked with Lyle Willmarth out of Colorado for a summer, come to find out, he held the Pope and Young world record for 18 years with his goat out of Colorado
QuoteOriginally posted by Grizzlyhunter:
I was lucky enough to draw a tag in Utah last year and ended up taking a beautiful Billy with my recurve. It was a solo un-guided hunt and I have to say it was the adventure of a life time and I wish everyone could have a chance to hunt them with Traditional Archery Gear. Jim Eeckhout
Welcome Jim....helluva first post!!!n. Ang pics from that trip. Maybe you could tell be story and post some pics in a separate thread.
Love this thread. -My Holy Grail-
Randy Cooling took this one a few weeks ago.
http://i340.photobucket.com/albums/o344/SAFARITUFF/image_zpsd2e65d16.jpg
James D Berry ?
Great posts and very awesome pictures.
I read a page or two back about nanny tags and was wondering how you tell the difference between a nanny and billy?
I drew this year here in Montana and am hoping to make this list! It's my second tag in the area in 16 years and I'm looking forward to the adventure!
Anybody that wants to share advice on what you found to be productive in how you managed to kill your goat, I'm listening!!!
Happy hunting,
Jason
This is in my bucket list, but I think it won't get done since it takes so long to draw.
I took a near B&C nanny 11 5/8" horns with rifle in the early 80's. I hunted out of Atlin BC over Lewellyn Glacier. Atlin is in the north west corner of BC. What a hunt. I would love to do it with trad gear DIY.
Maybe if I hit the lottery between now and when I have to take a dirt nap I will get to do it again.
Took one many years ago, after that hunting was never the same. James
Marv Clyncke, Gary Renfro and Jake Powell have taken 3 goats each in Colo with trad gear. Todd Clyncke has taken 2 in Colo with trad gear.
I applied years ago, did not get the draw. Then once again later, when I had the time and money. I finally went after goats and bighorns in the summer with a camera, they go where a guy with a bad back should never hunt. I should get that film developed before it goes bad.
Ive always wanted to go on a mountain goat hunt. Maybe one day it will happen.
QuoteOriginally posted by JDBerry:
Took one many years ago, after that hunting was never the same. James
so true, I will never look at hunting the same, 2014 was my 5th time. Just love goat hunting.
Would like to do this prior to hitting 70 yrs old. I have some time. Maybe after I retire.