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Title: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: buckeye_hunter on September 02, 2012, 08:41:00 PM
I found an apple tree dropping semi and ripe apples on the edge of a soybean field. Will it still be dropping apples Sept 29th for our opening weekend? It is covered up in deer sign and had even been hit midday sometime after the heavier rains.

I've never hunted near an apple tree before so I'm not sure if the apples will still be there for the opener.

Thanks for any information.

God Bless,
Charlie
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: Rustic on September 02, 2012, 09:48:00 PM
I think any food supply is good. I'd like an opportunity to hunt near an orchard or an apple tree.
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: Whip on September 02, 2012, 10:01:00 PM
It really depends on the variety of apples - some hold them much longer than others.  But it will likely remain a magnet until they are gone!
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: karrow on September 02, 2012, 10:09:00 PM
i would think weather it is dropping apples or not it will be a hot spot on the opener. the deer will still curse by just searching. if apples are still on the tree all the better   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: buckeye_hunter on September 02, 2012, 10:25:00 PM
:pray:  Hoping those apples are still there.

How often do you get apples and soybeans literally on top of each other? I mean some of the apples are laying in the soybeans! I wish season was open now....
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: CRS on September 02, 2012, 10:39:00 PM
Absolutely hunt the tree if apples are still there.

There are early and late season apple trees.  Last year I had an apple tree dropping apples well into November, but I have also had them done by the middle of October for the late season variety.

The answer is to monitor the tree, they bring turkeys in as well, which is good for my fall turkey tags.  It is a regular circus watching them fight over apples.
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: Stumpkiller on September 02, 2012, 11:09:00 PM
I have three "volunteer" apple trees near my favorite spot and they hold a few apples well into November.
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: Hopewell Tom on September 03, 2012, 06:13:00 AM
Like Whip said, seems to depend on the variety.
This place I live on was settled by an apple farmer.
"Old growth" orchard in the front field and the woods/field edges are full of trees, this being the "big crop" year(every second year here). Some trees are bare now and one, a yellow delicious planted by the guy I bought the place from, has its fruit to late November. That tree is 70' from the house and is hard hit until cleaned up. Big scrape there last year.
Monitor your tree(like THAT has to be said!) and then you'll know for future seasons.
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: Kip on September 03, 2012, 08:18:00 AM
Charlie     Buy a bushel of apples as needed.Kip  :bigsmyl:    :wavey:    :campfire:
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: overbo on September 03, 2012, 08:28:00 AM
Kip has the plan!

Just keep restocking that tree.Check your game laws 1st.
Also if there is a orchard near by?Ask permission to pick up the drops.We could get a pickup load in a few hours w/ a few 5 gallon buckets.
good luck
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: dan d on September 03, 2012, 08:32:00 AM
I hunt some wild apple trees, they hold apples thru October & depending on frost into November, but what I have noticed is once the deer are patterned to go past the apple trees they keep that pattern thru November anyways.

The bucks make scrapes around the wild apple trees also & even though the apples are gone the scrapes are still there so they must keep tending them.

Wild apple trees are as good as it gets for deer hunting.

Dan
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: Bill Carlsen on September 03, 2012, 08:38:00 AM
Up here in NH all the apples are early and I just hope they will still be available in 2 weeks. They are disappearing as soon as they hit the ground. Several trees that are prolific bearers have dropped most of their apples already and I can't even find too many drops. Other food is scarce, as well, so any food source here is going to be good. We don't have soybeans, So, even if  your apples are done by the end of the month you have the beans to play with.
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: jcar315 on September 03, 2012, 09:37:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Whip:
It really depends on the variety of apples - some hold them much longer than others.  But it will likely remain a magnet until they are gone!
Whip is spot on!

We have several apple trees around our house and the deer will gobble them up as soon as they fall. We've seen them do the 2-legged shuffle to try to get the ones even higher in the trees.

Our trees are bare right now of all but a few of the highest apples.

Apples seem to be a "red hot while they last" type of food source......but not really long lived (depending on the type of trees)

Good Luck!
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: Roger Norris on September 03, 2012, 10:01:00 AM
I wouldn't bugger up the spot by adding apples....just my opinion. Hang back, stay down wind of it. Every "wild" apple tree I know of draws deer year round. Especially alongside a mature soybean field....even the bits of apple and the dried out 'rotten' ones will draw deer for a long time. I have seen deer licking at the "apple cider mud" well into January.
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: BrownA5 on September 03, 2012, 10:31:00 AM
There still should be some apples.  Seems like apples are scarce everywhere this year, which is why this tree is getting so much attention.  Should be a good set-up for you!
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: JimB on September 03, 2012, 10:35:00 AM
A month is a long time if they are dropping now.Everything seems to be ripening early this year.I don't know if it is legal where you are but what about gathering the apples now and putting some back as the apple fall starts to diminish?
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: buckeye_hunter on September 03, 2012, 11:42:00 AM
In Ohio we are allowed to bait deer on private land. This is private land, so I could just keep dropping apples under the tree. Not sure if I want to do that yet. It would be fun to put my trail camera out there. I bet there are some nice fat deer in the area!

Also, The area is super thick. Unless I do major trimming there is only one good/ok tree and all the shots would be about 5-8 yards. How far out would you guys set up? On a travel corridor or right on the tree?
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: TooManyHobbies on September 03, 2012, 01:07:00 PM
Travel corridor. That way you won't bust a deer going in...hopefully. And if they hang up until dark, they may hang up right in front of you, before approaching the tree.
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: overbo on September 03, 2012, 03:22:00 PM
5-8 YARDS!!!!!!
Too close for my comfort.Everything and I mean everything has to be just right for that range.

Give it a try and if it dosen't workout.Go back after the season and cut a shooting area to get you off the tree more.If you really feel energetic and you know you'll have permission for time to come,Plant a whitepine w/in 20 yrds and maintain that appletree for the future.
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: Steve Jr on September 03, 2012, 04:30:00 PM
I have to sneak through a grown over 80 tree orchard cross a creek to get to my stand just to hunt the corn field.Some times they are in the orchard I need to set up a ground ambush in that orchard. Don't everyone want a problem like this  :)
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: Naki on September 03, 2012, 06:24:00 PM
There is a apple orchard that neighbors our deer hunting place. The first two weeks of October that's the place to be hunting the deer will be in there all night eating.
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: buckeye_hunter on September 03, 2012, 08:34:00 PM
Do you guys think cutting in some areas now would be too close to season? If I cut some areas now, it could sit undisturbed for about 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: magnus on September 03, 2012, 09:00:00 PM
If your gonna do it do it now!  They might be Leary coming in though. Find the corridors leading to it. How are the beans there?
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on September 03, 2012, 09:57:00 PM
Funny,I was thinking apples are the ticket.  I have seen a few trees loaded with them while horseback riding.

I went back today to put up the trail camera near one since my last 2 trail cam sets came up empty.  These trees have deer trails passing by but are very small.  the apples are piling up on the ground.  I collected a few apples and the horses ate them so I know they are not too sour.

My little brother said the trees on the family farm have not been hit yet either. thats a 1000 miles from here.

Confused from NY   :confused:  

must be  abetter food source elsewhere   :dunno:  or maybe too much food as the corn is still up and acorns are all over, not to mention the alfalfa looks good too.
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: buckeye_hunter on September 03, 2012, 11:14:00 PM
Some of the beans have started to yellow out. The guy that farms the field said he will be cutting them right about the week after deer archery season starts. There is also quite a bit of corn in the next field over. Maybe 100 yards away that will still be standing for the opening day on a separate property. I have looked at aerial photos from the past. These photos show an overhead view after the crops were harvested. You can actually see the 2 deer travel routes across the field to get to the apple tree on the overhead photo. I guess that would indicate they have been eating from this tree heavily for a long time. I would have thought that the deer bedded near the swampy thick area closer to the tree, but there are 2 VERY clear paths coming from a different set of woods on another property to the apple tree through the open field? Seemed weird to me, but it is extremely evident in the photos.
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: GabeGa on September 03, 2012, 11:18:00 PM
you can always Buy some apples and lay them under the tree ...  :saywhat:  on weekends until then
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: overbo on September 04, 2012, 07:00:00 AM
Why wouldn't those 2 trails be from deer leaving the appletree?
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: buckeye_hunter on September 04, 2012, 09:19:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by overbo:
Why wouldn't those 2 trails be from deer leaving the appletree?
And that folks is why Tradgang is such a gem! It may very well be overbo. Never though about the photo that way! I love this place.
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: RM81 on September 05, 2012, 08:13:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Roger Norris:
I wouldn't bugger up the spot by adding apples....just my opinion. Hang back, stay down wind of it. Every "wild" apple tree I know of draws deer year round. Especially alongside a mature soybean field....even the bits of apple and the dried out 'rotten' ones will draw deer for a long time. I have seen deer licking at the "apple cider mud" well into January.
Same here.  I have a few apple trees in my back yard and the deer scrape the ground all winter looking for apples and eating the old rotten ones.
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: katie on September 05, 2012, 08:49:00 AM
I can see an apple tree from my front door. Every day starting about 1 hour before sunset, they come. All winter long, they come and dig in the snow. I have noticed that they tend to come in the morning once it gets cold.
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: jonsimoneau on September 05, 2012, 09:20:00 AM
If you have to do any cutting i would go in with rubber boots and rubber gloves and do it. It will bother the deer for a day or two but they will be back. I doubt you could keep them away from an apple tree if you tried!
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: buckeye_hunter on September 05, 2012, 09:14:00 PM
Thanks for all the input guys and gals! It's always good to get different perspectives on hunting strategies.
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: magnus on September 05, 2012, 09:21:00 PM
I would make sure and maybe fertilize that tree in the spring and maybe summer too if you can. Sounds like you got a honey hole and from my experience apple trees that produce are just that. Especially one in seclusion like yours. Good luck Charlie!
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: buckeye_hunter on September 09, 2012, 08:22:00 PM
Added bonus... There is a huge white oak now dropping acorns 30 yards south of the apple tree! It is already being hit as well and I ws able to put together a great stand.
Title: Re: Hunting near an apple tree
Post by: RM81 on September 10, 2012, 10:05:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by buckeye_hunter:
Added bonus... There is a huge white oak now dropping acorns 30 yards south of the apple tree! It is already being hit as well and I ws able to put together a great stand.
Sounds like the perfect storm.  Good luck this fall.