looking for something different - who's got something they think no one else has?
Mike
no pics but I know where there is some birdseye walnut lumber. I've been thinking of buying a couple of boards and sending it to Black Widow for a set of limbs for my PSA V
Here is some cocobolo I cut and how it turned out.
(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee465/buckskinbows/88150cd5.jpg)
(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee465/buckskinbows/5.jpg)
here is the runner ups who have not yet made it into a bow
(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee465/buckskinbows/1473ee25.jpg)
Here are two different veneers I've used lately.
Dark Birdseye maple and Flaming Ambrosia Maple.
As you can see I like maple of all styles.
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k632/arrowman2/DSCF1291.jpg)
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k632/arrowman2/DSCF1118-1.jpg)
Troy
Troy, I think of using ambrosia maple soo often. Its amazing that the excrement of bugs can be so desirable. How did you fill the bug holes in the veneers?
i really like that lighter cocobola!! All the Habu's i have had are really dark - kind of wrote that one off too early.....
Some pretty decent bocote....
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/kennym/SANY0043.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/kennym/540.jpg)
Some Zebra I put in my son's bow...
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/kennym/100_2079.jpg)
Do a search for Redwood burl from Big Jim or Steve O's talltine- very nice
Some more good bocote...
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab246/yornoc/bocote.jpg)
YEW isn't usually unusual...but I got these lams for my Silvertip....
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab246/yornoc/STyew.jpg)
Is there a place to buy nice veneers? I would like to keep an eye out for some and buy it. That way when I have my next bow built I can just send the veneers to the bowyer. I love buetiful wood. After all if you can't shoot good you can at least look good.
I used a redwood burl for the lam's in my widow. Limbs look like they are on fire! That is exactly what i am looking for - they were a great find.
Wow, I love hearing the good comments about redwood burl. I just ordered a new longbow and had the bowyer use that veneer after seeing it in his shop. Good choice I guess...
Your freaking me out all I see is clear gloss over them to show the wood grains the most and more bow builds.
Beautiful keep them coming.
pamike- I think you need to post some pix of your bows- you have a lot of wood bases covered with that collection.
IdahoCurt here on Tradgang is a good source for them.....
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g426/u000mdw/6717BB4E-2742-490B-B973-534D64C9B4CF-3865-000004E35F3439DA.jpg)
Here is the redwood burl on my Widow. Sorry just figured out how to do this!!!!
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g426/u000mdw/8F349255-3B5E-4B0E-9907-9CA0376F97CE-3865-000004E71AA8E52A.jpg)
Here is my maple Tip which is on its way back to Dave for a longer bow.
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g426/u000mdw/9472F895-7C30-42DF-BF36-8C301D344F34-3865-000004E71B0BA22B.jpg)
My myrtle Tall Tines
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g426/u000mdw/7ebf6caec458aef27364baf204f9b41f.jpg)
My 64" tip. More maple
finally figured out photobucket!!
need to take some more pictures and i can post the rest....
nice bows pamike- how about koa?
pamike! it feels good when you unlock that photobucket thing does'nt it! :bigsmyl: sweet looking bows by the way. rat'
Black and White Ebony
(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa282/Bowhuntater/FelixBWETips009.jpg)
How about some Marblewood...
(http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss153/1bowcrazy/IMG_0821_2.jpg)
"footed veneers" (http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww260/overspined/f8bdb4a1.jpg)
spalted sycamore (http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww260/overspined/d53427c2.jpg)
Did someone ask about Koa? Schafer Silvertip curve
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/comanche/Bows/Copy1ofIMG_3006.jpg)
angel fire maple, schafer silvertip t/d longbow
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/comanche/Bows/13.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/comanche/Bows/14.jpg)
B/W ebony, Blacktail
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/comanche/Bows/2011blacktaillimb039.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/comanche/Bows/2011IowaBuck038.jpg)
some darker B/W ebony, Cari-bow Slynx
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/comanche/Bows/RH206220Slynx20gabonebony20tips.jpg)
Olive ash, Tall Tines
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/comanche/Bows/talltines2.jpg)
yew, Blacktail
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/comanche/Bows/DSCN0217.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/comanche/Bows/Blacktail.jpg)
mun ebony
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/comanche/Bows/DSCN0266.jpg)
myrtle
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/comanche/Bows/2005___2007_Various_Family_Pics_-1.jpg)
Wow! Those are some stunning veneers.
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g426/u000mdw/1e582df70cf34b94f9f3997b941b9dd2.jpg)
This is the KOA I am looking for - going to see if Dave can get some of that.
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g426/u000mdw/A151CC49-21AD-4C24-A715-D175BFF9B64C-3865-000004F434E3E318.jpg)
My hill country bobcat will be using this block - like the Dalmatian black and white ebony.
danny - your bow collection is AMAZING!!
rmorris,
Filling holes in the Ambrosia Maple wasn't hard. The veneers are only .030 thick. When I applied the glue I just made sure I worked it alot more at the holds making sure I pushed it in the holes instead of swiping it just over the holes.
Then as I was ready to set the veneer on the stack I double checked both sides of the veneer to make sure the holes were full.
Pretty simple and no problem at all.
Once the limbs were out of the oven they only look like dark, dark grey to black dots.
Troy
Opps!! double tapped again.
Troy
Well that is easy, I was going to mix up some dark saw dust with smoth on and use a syringe to inject it into all the holes of the board , then cut and grind the veneers. Thank buddy as always you are awesome and a world of knowledge .
anyone know where to get tiger stripped Koa?
Black white Ebony bows in the works first set veneers for zipper
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/wcocke/3ECED977-81BF-4C42-8579-DEF0EEC1811C-794-0000012330F646F5.jpg)
Set 3 for widow set five for Tip
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/wcocke/535D3F8C-9E1F-42E9-9878-D3FA7A1D33CC-794-0000012318FBBB89.jpg)
Riser blocks
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/wcocke/3E284F2C-4926-4946-8612-741E5549AC91-794-00000123019CA259.jpg)
I don't think I ever saw a B&W ebony silver tip. Hmmmm
any others?
Mike,
I have a B/W ebony Tip on order. Felix Daza in Italy has two Tips with B/W ebony.
Maybe one on order too.LOL
Great thread!
Beth said they have some B&W ebony in stock......
Cerejiera Crotch
(http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc452/ghermon/100_2387-Copy.jpg)
I love this thread. Some absolutely beautiful bows represented here!
Hard to beat that B&W Ebony, but a while back a wise man recomended to make some test strips form scrap glass...
(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee465/buckskinbows/9FED4E52-D2BD-4653-A6E7-4DD6670E0931-1548-000003140347A595.jpg)
Canary wood, Aromatic Cedar, Curly Maple, Olive wood
(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee465/buckskinbows/7FC031DE-DCCC-4B29-BF1B-D7D4AF769F32-1548-00000313FA02F036.jpg)
Cocobolo, Bolivian Rosewood, Tulipwood, Osage
That Angel Fire Maple is stunning. I've never seen that before.
Ziricote and bacote.
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l118/V-Archer/R-D%20bow%20Legend%20of%20the%20Forest/R-Dbow59limbtip.jpg)
Okay, here ya go....Gum Cherry veneers couresty of Mr. Toelke...
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg54/PierreLucas/GC33.jpg)
God Bless, Pierre
Just a little tease I got from Roger today, More to come It'll be here Friday
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k313/wcocke/4DC70DB5-509E-40F3-8BFA-421C1729CBDA-3865-000004B41141A00B.jpg)
Mike I just bought some b lack myrtle on my trip0 to the coast. I have never seen anything like it before and the mill I got it from said that in 40 years they have had two trees like this one. It is black and bright yellow. I have not cut into what I have yet but what I saw there is just unbelieveable.
God bless, Steve
Wow,I never was much of a Widow type guy....but that one above is unbelieveable!
Again, WOW
Curly maple with a stain can be stunning too!
OK , here is a couple more.....
Angle cut charcoal with a red elm shaft, bloodwood point, and spalted hackberry fletch
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/kennym/SANY0036-2.jpg)
Bocote and canary with phenolic racin stripe..
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/kennym/SANY0033.jpg)
It looks like this Black and White Ebony could start craze of sorts. Tater, yours and that Widow above are tops with me.
Keep 'em coming, folks.
This is getting better every day!!!!
PA Mike, the curly red koa you are looking for really resembles good curly narra. I personally like the narra better than the koa, it has better color. The koa washes out a little under glass and the narra will look like a curly bomb went off. LF
Rosewood archery had some of the best curly narra ive ever seen not long ago.
Doublelung, you have to post pics of that Widow when it shows up, that is a sweet looking bow.
QuoteOriginally posted by owlbait:
Curly maple with a stain can be stunning too!
Here is some Grey stained curly maple with a touch of Ambrosia.
The bright sun washed out the color a little but you get the picture.
CTT
(http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt12/twotracks/P1020331.jpg)
(http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt12/twotracks/P1020330.jpg)
(http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt12/twotracks/P1020329.jpg)
(http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt12/twotracks/P1020328.jpg)
I like that, Chuck. Who woulda thunk the gray would turn out like that?
Chuck, Are those veneers soft or hard maple? Sure would like to have a big peck of curly hard maple? LF
Curly narra - sounds good but where are the pics???
Darn you, Doublelung... I was perfectly happy with my exotic choices until I saw that widow. That is out of this world. Post pics when you get her. Thanks.
Yes - this thread could cost people some money...
I don't have a bow with veneers as nice as what has been displayed. But,here is my personal favorite.....................
(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z473/ryanwhitaker/003.jpg)
(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z473/ryanwhitaker/003640x480-1.jpg)
(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z473/ryanwhitaker/004640x480.jpg)
(http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z473/ryanwhitaker/006640x480.jpg)
It is my 60" Centaur,B&W Ebony veneered/handle sectioned Chimera. I love this thing!!
I really like the black and white ebony and the koa !!
I really like the black and white ebony and the koa !!
Mike, I have a set of curley red koa veneers but they are too short for a longbow. they could be footed though if you want me to add them to the pics I am going to send you.
God bless, Steve
Wow! Just amazing stuff!
Some tiger myrtle
(http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc452/ghermon/101_2503.jpg) (http://s1212.photobucket.com/user/ghermon/media/101_2503.jpg.html)
these are the cocobolo veneers that went into my SS Custom Archery Sniper recurve
(http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w468/psbuckner/1524963_771629772853247_1314847489_n.jpg) (http://s1077.photobucket.com/user/psbuckner/media/1524963_771629772853247_1314847489_n.jpg.html)
Thread is back!!
Some nice ones guys!
I had to bring it back Mike. Its a great thread.
Pretty cool that this thread is older and started by PAmike. I bought this Buff from him a year or so ago. Macassar Ebony limbs, even used his pic since I cannot make it look as good in mine.
(http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s579/pevotva/photo_zps9f2b08fe.jpg) (http://s1306.photobucket.com/user/pevotva/media/photo_zps9f2b08fe.jpg.html)
Worst part is I really need to add some of my latest bows to this - got some beauties to show off!!! When I get back from Mexico I will post some.
That was a great looking buff!!
Macasser is my favorite. That Buff is gorgeous.
Not a bow yet but soon Bocote
(http://i1336.photobucket.com/albums/o641/cengert74/101_2603_zps56405e44.jpg) (http://s1336.photobucket.com/user/cengert74/media/101_2603_zps56405e44.jpg.html)
I love Bocote! I just received an astonishing set of Bocote limbs from Ken from Whippenstick. No pics yet...
great thread, what else is out there?
Not as spectacular as some of these combos, but I still get a bit of a thrill every time I pick up my RER LXR. Waterfall ash and cocobolo. Static tip recurve and longbow limbs are perfectly matched veneers from the same board.
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm312/bladepeek/Archery/RER%20LXR/Riserrtside.jpg) (http://s299.photobucket.com/user/bladepeek/media/Archery/RER%20LXR/Riserrtside.jpg.html)
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm312/bladepeek/Archery/RER%20LXR/Limbveneers.jpg) (http://s299.photobucket.com/user/bladepeek/media/Archery/RER%20LXR/Limbveneers.jpg.html)
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm312/bladepeek/Archery/RER%20LXR/Heelcap.jpg) (http://s299.photobucket.com/user/bladepeek/media/Archery/RER%20LXR/Heelcap.jpg.html)
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm312/bladepeek/Archery/RER%20LXR/limbsetscompared.jpg) (http://s299.photobucket.com/user/bladepeek/media/Archery/RER%20LXR/limbsetscompared.jpg.html)
I just got some more maple veneer. Some quilted and some burl. Stain makes this stuff look amazing.
(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w364/typical2/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140220_123120_969_zpshd8o0xa7.jpg) (http://s1072.photobucket.com/user/typical2/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140220_123120_969_zpshd8o0xa7.jpg.html)
(http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w364/typical2/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140408_132142_415_zpsm3tsbgtq.jpg) (http://s1072.photobucket.com/user/typical2/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20140408_132142_415_zpsm3tsbgtq.jpg.html)
I just picked up a HUGE amount of veneer for a woodworking project, I'm gonna have to piece together some of my leftovers into stuff for you guys. Knew there was a reason I got that 1'x8'+ curly walnut veneer sheet...
You guys have given me lots of ideas. Thank you!
Here are a few that I've made which might fall into this category.
myrtle burl
(http://i.imgur.com/sdl2hE7.jpg)
myrtle burl
(http://i.imgur.com/YLgGZAv.jpg)
Some spliced pieces
(http://i.imgur.com/DGmhFTC.jpg)
bubinga sap and heartwood
(http://i.imgur.com/m6obZW7.jpg)
walnut burl
(http://i.imgur.com/95losDe.jpg)
Some of these I've run out of but fun to look at every once in awhile.
Abe
WOW :thumbsup: All of those are awesome veneers and beautiful bows!!!
Spalted myrtle
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/34/bf6s.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/0ybf6sj)
Mango
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/401/hjzu.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/b5hjzuj)
Mango/Myrtle combo
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/809/vf1l.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/mhvf1lj)
Why do you cut down the center of the knot on those veneers? Makes it look like you have half to best part on each limb. Center the knot w/ the center of the veneer's width!
Hey Curt - got any more of that spalted mango ?
Overbo,
When you're cutting a log you often can't tell what's going on inside.
Nice Abe! Curt too!
Just amazing.
That mango is sweet!!!*
Not quite veneers yet, but will be in a few days. Walnut burl and Osage on the top billet, Walnut Burl and Curly Maple on the bottom. Still have a couple more billets to build, then it back to cutting and grinding.
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k632/arrowman2/DSCF2686.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/arrowman2/media/DSCF2686.jpg.html)
All beautifull, but I was really knocked down by Idaho Curt's mango veneers, absolutely knockdown gorgeous !
Mango's look awesome!!!
These are kind of unique; This is one of the bows that Mike did not post. I finally found a pic of the veneers. Black myrtle. This looks like its on fire. Pic does not do it justice.
(http://eaglewingarchery.i8.com/images/Weidman/weidmankoa9.jpg)
Double koa limbs, one fiddleback and one just crazy. Possibly the best veneers I have ever had. (http://eaglewingarchery.i8.com/images/chis%26bradley/100_5685.JPG)
fiddleback myrtle inlaid with cocabola firebird (http://eaglewingarchery.i8.com/images/ewfirebird/EWfirebird6.JPG)
God bless, Steve
Steve, as always beautiful work :)
Wow Steve, those koa veneers were OUTSTANDING!!
They were. When I built that bow I had to sell two sets of those limbs off as seconds because of streaks in the glass that I could not detect. That really burned me. That was one beautiful and expensive piece of wood . I ended up with four sets of veneers that turned out good and two sets that I had to second.
Grrrrr. It always happens with the best stuff LOL.
God bless, Steve
I understand Curt but everyone of those wonderful veneers looks like you rip cut down the heart of the log. IMO, if the heart of the log was centered w/ the width of the limbs, you would get a more dramatic grain flow. In some cases, chevron like appearance. I can see that w/ the method you display, you get more from your material than just taking the heart out. The walnut bur veneers that Troy displays above is a great example. Butt those veneers together and cut out the center and then you a very dramatic limb veneer.
overbo,
The walnut part of those billets was not split down the middle by me to get the wood. That's the way I got it. I cut a 2" thick piece into two 1" pieces then layed them side by side. That's why it looks that way. With the price of some of these woods you have to get the most you can out of a piece rather than picking the best and scraping the rest. Getting one premium piece out of a $30.00 piece of wood and scraping the rest isn't cost effective when you can still have nice looking pieces by cutting it in half.
Just finished my latest run of spliced veneer billets. Waiting on a new batch of saw blades before I start cutting into veneers.
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k632/arrowman2/DSCFnewsplice.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/arrowman2/media/DSCFnewsplice.jpg.html)
For William that just called. Here is the pics of the walnut and mango we were talking about. The first pic is the billet dry. The second is the billet after wetting with alcohol.
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k632/arrowman2/DSCFdrysplice.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/arrowman2/media/DSCFdrysplice.jpg.html)
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k632/arrowman2/DSCFwetsplice.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/arrowman2/media/DSCFwetsplice.jpg.html)
BTW overbo, the walnut in the picture I posted yesterday must not have been a problem for one customer. I just sold him a four piece set from both billets.
When you cut your own billets out of a large piece you can lay out and get one or two super premium sets. However we have to take what we can buy from the wood dealers. Over the last few years the wood market has changed and the wood suppliers have learned to contract with large musical and furniture manufactures and we get the left overs. That is a fact of life and hard to deal with.
The one super fancy piece of koa I have in stock is just enough to make a riser and some overlays. It cost me over 300.00. That is not thirty dollars but three hundred dollars. Its pay that or not get it.
I have worked hard to develop good sellers that will actually get me good wood as have many other bowyers but believe me when it comes to top grades it is hard to come by.
That super fancy koa with the crazy quilt was 600.00. I got 32 veneers out of it. I lost at least 8 in cutting and grinding. That comes to 100.00 per bow at my cost. Add a 300. riser and in just wood alone , not counting core, carbon. ect you have 400. in materials in a bow like that before you do any labor to it at all. That is just in wood alone. This adds a whole different perspective to the game.
BTW I jumped right on those mango veneers and they were all gone almost instantly. LOL.
God bless, Steve
Had a bow once with Sapele veneers but don't have any pics of it. Anyone else have any? I think Abe builds with it sometimes.
Thanks
Kyle
Sixby,
That's why I'm doing my best to stick with alot of domestic woods. Those fancy exotic woods will get in your wallet fast. I do have to pick up a piece of exotic every now and then, but I try to stick to the ones that aren't so pricey.
Steve thanks for posting those black myrtle limbs. I can't post pics with new phone. Kinda been out of the loop for last couple months. I will take the time to figure it out soon. Hopefully
That Koa is sooo tempting.....
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j380/thadsoy/IMG_20140414_144546_017.jpg)