I got a 6' 7" buddy who is shooting a Northern Mist longbow 68" x 60# pull. He draws 35 inches.
He has been shooting 2515 aluminums and they fly lik crap. Any suggestions to get his spine correct for this length? Should he switch to Carbon? Heavy woods? or stay with aluminums? I suggested heavy woods such as Douglas Fir.
How does that work? If he is drawing 35" than wouldn't a full length shaft of 31" be to short for him to draw and shoot?
I agrre with you on the woods in 23/64 if you can find a supply long enough. My 2 cents
Rich, You might want to contact Easton for suggestions. Back in the late 70s and early 80s several pro atheletes were featured in some archery ads; I believe Larry Byrd was one but I can't be sure. At that length he might try a 2419 but its going to be a little soft at those lengths though the additional weight might help a little. Have him check with Whispering Wind if wood is the way he wants to go. I understand they have been very accomodating to guys looking for "special" spines and weights. Grant
HOKIE SMOKES! :scared: Do they have a Big & Tall Archery Shop anywhere close to where your Friend Lives?? He may have to Cut Down Some Fence Posts to Make his Arrows!! :saywhat: :goldtooth:
35 inches... With that kinda of power stroke he should be able to shoot through an engine block. LOL Good Luck on finding some shafts.
If I needed a 35 inch arrow, I would use one of the stronger spined carbons and join a section of one to another to make a single long arrow. Just find some aluminum rod in the right diameter and make an insert two to three inches long then epoxy the pieces together. It might work. The same thing might work with aluminum arrows. It would seem that to keep an arrow that long from being whippy, you would need a stronger spine than the draw weight might suggest.
Dave in Ft. Collins, CO
Rebar comes to mind at that length.
Many of the 36" ramin shafts(3/8") were real heavyweights...over 100 pound spine. Maybe you can work with some of them.
ChuckC
If you bring him to Denton next year I AIN'T pulling his arrows! :)
Hey Rich,
I don't think you have any modern material options, but with wood you do. You could get someone who runs the shafts to keep them longer (Troy used to do this, the new guy might also). Or you could take regular full length woods and use the reparrow idea (used to fix, but in this case to add 4 inches or more).
Bring him to Denton, I'd like to see a real life giant.
Long footed shafts would give some stiffness
I draw 32" and can't find woodies anymore. With a 65# bow I need 90-95# shafts and then they have to be footed. I doubt you'll find woodies stiff enough.
Id be looking for a bow with an overdraw shelf.
I have a friend that draw 34" full length 2419s work for him out of a bow that at his draw length is 68#. He also has a recurve that pulls 107# at his drawlength and a Big 5 Longbow that pulls 127# at his drawlength and with those bows he shoots 2440s with a 200 grain head those arrows weigh 1750 grains and they still are pushing 190 fps. I watched one shoot through 6 1 1/2" think sheets of marine plywood and the fender of a 1974 Nova it stopped against the engine block of the Nova and flatten out the fieldpoint.2440s are very hard to find though.
I know Rouge River Archery makes shafts over 100# spine and you could use the Reparrow shaft repair add ons to make 36" arrows.
Ramin shafts can spine upwards of 100+ and they come in 36" lengths.
I think he needs more bend in his elbow!
Eric
I'm going to be working on this. I think if we get this guy set up right, victory against the Orcs is ours! May good always triumph over evil! :clapper: CKruse
Broomsticks and Snuffers!! I could tig weld an adapter to a thimble, jam it on there, pound a nail through it all and bend it over!!
He needs to find someone that has a doweling machine and that can make the shafts longer and bigger around. Or get a saw and a drill and a router and make your own. Course' he would have to have a very good spine tester that worked up to 150#s. But it sounds like fun to me.
6' 7" holy chit!!!!! course what am i sayin, i got a cousin thats that tall, hell, he might me 6' 8" im not sure....
he could shoot solid fiberglass arrows. Sully bowfishing supply sells 36" arrows.
WAIT! they also have the opton of 36" aluminum arras too! not sure if they would work, but it might be worth a try!
I am sure that Ted at Raptorarchery.com could help you with advice and a solution too..they have a variety of wood to choose from and carbon as well-both shafting and finished arrows.
I'm sure if we wait long enough Paul Brunner will chime in here.
In all seriousness though didn't Paul hunt with Tom Storm in Bad Medicine for Big Bucks? I think Mr. Storm was pushing 6'6", course it could just be the perspective of him standing next to Paul.
Dang, I'm 6'7" and thought my 31+" draw was significant.... I suddenly feel "normal".
BobW
You can get them from Easton all joking aside. Shaquille O'Neal had a custom 40" draw wheelie bow built for him by Mathews and I believe Easton Made the arrows for him.
I think I would consider having a bow built at 60 or so pounds at 35 in. Still an awesome power stroke and less trouble finding an arrow. It would probably feel like holding 40 lbs to a regular size person.
I thought so, Vermonster. Thanks for pitching in and letting me know I hadn't dreamed it up. Easton has been pretty obliging in the past; nice to know they still are. Grant
Is he shooting 60 lbs at 35 in. now or is he 60 at 28 in and pulling it 80 lbs plus?
FYI.... a 2018 shaft will perfectly fit OVER a Beman Black Max 340 or Easton Axis 340 shaft. He would use a full length 2018 and a full length Axis 340. Use 2-part epoxy all over the OD of the Axis and insert it into the 2018 and let it cure. Leave 6" or so of the carbon shaft sticking out of the back of the arrow for the additional length needed (they come uncut at 31" I believe) and for fletchings. His total leghth of arrow could be 35"-37" depending on how much he cut off the front of the arrow. leave enough aluminum on the front end of the arrow to get a standard insert in.
They'd be stiff, HEAVY and skinny as all get out and long. They'd penetrate like a 7mm Mag! I'd love to see someone shoot one with a 35" draw!
-ZA
carbon arrows with a long aluminum footing glued over the end should work.