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Title: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: AngelDeVille on August 02, 2012, 11:12:00 PM
So this afternoon while my son was practicing in the backyard with his bow I settled down on the back porch with some cowhorn and a dremel.

I didn't take any step-by-step pictures because I wans't sure it would be worth showing off.

The horn was an atrociously made powder horn I had stashed in a box in the garage for years, and I finally found a use for it. (the hole in the ring is from where an eyelet screw was attached)

I still need to do some final sanding if i decide it meets my exacting standards, if not it goes in a box of lessons learned.

This is my first attempt at a thumb ring made out of anything other than leather, I will most likely attempt to make one out of coin silver in the near future.

I used it a few times and so far I think it's a little too long, but maybe I'm too used to the feel of my leather one. I definitely need more range time with it.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/angelpena/DSC00433.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/angelpena/DSC00429.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/angelpena/DSC00431.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/angelpena/DSC00430.jpg)
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: Grey Taylor on August 03, 2012, 12:28:00 AM
I like it!

Guy
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: Gen273 on August 03, 2012, 01:07:00 AM
What is a Thumb ring?
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: flinthead on August 03, 2012, 06:51:00 AM
I made a couple, could not get them comfortable. That and needed a left hand bow because how the thumb ring works. Roy
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: Biggamefish on August 03, 2012, 07:00:00 AM
I have never heard of a thumb ring.  Obviously it is for shooting (I think) how is it used?
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: ranger 3 on August 03, 2012, 07:04:00 AM
I would likt to see the leather one and how you use it please.
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: gnihsifnamk on August 03, 2012, 09:31:00 AM
I would love to learn how to shoot with a thumb ring, very cool. I'd like to see what the leather one looks like too.
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: mike g on August 03, 2012, 11:21:00 AM
The Mongols and others used thumb rings.
If right handed you shoot off the right side of the bow, the ring makes the string pull towards the bow....
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: AngelDeVille on August 03, 2012, 12:32:00 PM
Here is my leather ring, it was my second attempt, I ended up trimming the first one too short, and it didn't fully protect the pad of my thumb, so it has been modified for use by my wife and son.

The pen marks are from ideas about angle and pad width and length. I have about 700 arrows downrange with it now and may narrow the pad a little.

The leather ring took be about 20 minutes to make, and once the pattern is correct they will take about 5 minutes to churn out more.

The leather ring.
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/angelpena/Thumb%20ring/DSC00433-1.jpg)

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/angelpena/Thumb%20ring/DSC00438.jpg)

Hook the thumb below the nock of the arrow.
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/angelpena/Thumb%20ring/DSC00434.jpg)

Use the index and middle finger to reinforce the thumb
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/angelpena/Thumb%20ring/DSC00435.jpg)

The index finger will keep the arrow tight against the right side of the bow.
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/angelpena/Thumb%20ring/DSC00436.jpg)

Once full draw is reached the thumb is relaxed or flicked and the string glides off the pad of the thumb ring.
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: AngelDeVille on August 03, 2012, 12:35:00 PM
Same sequence with the horn ring.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/angelpena/Thumb%20ring/DSC00429-1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/angelpena/Thumb%20ring/DSC00430-1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/angelpena/Thumb%20ring/DSC00431-1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/angelpena/Thumb%20ring/DSC00432.jpg)
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: iohkus on August 03, 2012, 03:24:00 PM
From the picture, it doesn't LOOK too big. What weight bow do you shoot with it? The workmanship looks good too, BTW.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: AngelDeVille on August 03, 2012, 03:46:00 PM
The leather ring is for sure the easiest to get right, the horn ring just feels too long, but I'll keep shooting with it before I trim it.

I'm shooting my son's lefty bow it's #28 @ 28" and I'm drawing to 33"  

My #60 @ 33" bow is shipping on Monday!


I'm hoping the leather ring works well at #60, it is my understanding that the horn and metal rings work best at the higher draw weights.
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: Grey Taylor on August 03, 2012, 04:31:00 PM
The traditional way to shoot with a thumb ring is for the arrow to be on the other side of the bow. But that is not always the practice.
On ATARN.org there is a series of photos titled, "Mongolian Archery Graphic Archive" that show a Mongolian archer shooting off the same side of the bow as we do. The archer's sister is Munkhtsetseg, the National Women's Archery Champion of Mongolia, so I have to think he has at least some idea of what he is doing.

Guy
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: Shakes.602 on August 03, 2012, 04:57:00 PM
Dont know about the rest of y'all, they sure LOOK like More Trouble   :rolleyes:  than they are Worth!  BUT  I know they have been used by the Best Archers there were in Antiquity, so there  IS  something to them! Gotta do some experimenting myself to really Appreciate them I reckon!  :goldtooth:
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: Margly on August 03, 2012, 05:06:00 PM
Think both the horn and the leather thumb look very  nice!
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Post by: Jhoneil1 on August 03, 2012, 09:30:00 PM
Seems you already know it - it is a little long  ;)  However, the workmanship is very nice.
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: AngelDeVille on August 04, 2012, 03:41:00 PM
Thanks all.

yeah I can always remove more material, it's a little harder to add it!
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: Grey Taylor on August 04, 2012, 03:57:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by AngelDeVille:

yeah I can always remove more material, it's a little harder to add it!
Angel, those are wise words that many never fully understand.

Guy
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: AngelDeVille on August 04, 2012, 05:08:00 PM
I even made ya'll a video....

http://youtu.be/U9ziYJ5vV6M
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: Dogboy900 on August 04, 2012, 11:12:00 PM
Cool vid, I was trying to explain how you shoot with a thumb ring to my girlfriend but this video will make explaining it a lot simpler!
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: AngelDeVille on August 05, 2012, 06:39:00 PM
My Hungarian type bow is set to arrive sometime next week.

I'm hopeful that the leather ring will hold up to the #60 draw on it.
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: AngelDeVille on August 09, 2012, 04:11:00 PM
I had taken a half day off work today and my bow showed up just as I was leaving for work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: bowslinger on August 11, 2012, 01:51:00 AM
Angel,

Just out of curiosity, how does your accuracy compare between the thumb rings and a glove/tab?  Thanks for posting the video!

Mike
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: kennyb on August 11, 2012, 08:36:00 AM
Angel...thanks for the lesson on thumb rings. Heard about them before but did not know how they worked. An excellent verbal & video lesson! Very informative! Thanks again.

Kenny    :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: menatkin on August 11, 2012, 09:56:00 AM
Well explained.  3 Rivers has a book on the subject, but it's a bit of a snoozer.
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: AngelDeVille on August 11, 2012, 01:15:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by bowslinger:
Angel,

Just out of curiosity, how does your accuracy compare between the thumb rings and a glove/tab?  Thanks for posting the video!

Mike
I think the release is easier to get cleaner with the thumb draw, but that said I'm noticing and accuracy improvement with my longbow and meditereanean draw. I think it's because I'm concentrating on the target and not the arrow.
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: on August 11, 2012, 01:28:00 PM
I do not know anything about these......so you shoot a left handed bow right handed when you use a thunb ring?

Bisch
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: AngelDeVille on August 11, 2012, 01:39:00 PM
The way you grip the arrow with a thumb draw, it would push the arrow off the rest/shelf if you shot off the left side of the bow, so yes use a lefty bow or a bow without a rest, and shoot off your hand.
Title: Re: First attempt at a horn thumb ring
Post by: Shakes.602 on August 21, 2012, 12:59:00 PM
Sounds like it has the same benefit of the 3-Under or Apache Grip. Should get a Smooth as Silk release with those bad boys!