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Title: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: BBrakke on July 24, 2012, 02:27:00 AM
I'm looking to get a new bow, and I needed some advice. I've shot the Abbott and liked it a lot, but I don't have anything to compare it to since I havent shot either of the others. Has anyone else shot or had any experience with any of these three.
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: Ben Maher on July 24, 2012, 02:33:00 AM
No experience with the Abbott .. shot a Great Plains ... it was a lovely bow , shot well and great build quality .
Having said that I own 3 Liberty's ...
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: GRINCH on July 24, 2012, 02:33:00 AM
They are all great bows,I suggest you try each one befors making a decesion,only you will know what fits yoo best.
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: Lamey on July 24, 2012, 09:06:00 AM
Ive shot those 3 and for me it would be a Liberty hands down.
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: snag on July 24, 2012, 09:38:00 AM
You won't regret it if you order a Liberty bow from Allen Boice. His designs are great, first rate craftsmanship, and he is a good man. Can't loose!
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: Chiloquin on July 24, 2012, 10:11:00 AM
I have a liberty that I absolutely Love!
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: Blackhawk on July 24, 2012, 10:19:00 AM
I talked to Allen Boice at the recent PBS meet in Portland and had a chance to shoot several of his models.  I selected the Contender and he had one in my hands in less than a month.  It looked and performed just great, and Allen is a firt class gentleman for your deal.  

BTW, if you're looking for a shorter, high performance reflex/deflex bow, his Elite is top notch.
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: 58WINTERS on July 24, 2012, 10:46:00 AM
My only experience is with the Liberty. I would have to echo all the above positives about Libertys and the man who crafts them.
58
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: YORNOC on July 24, 2012, 11:02:00 AM
My own exp. is with the Abbott, but I can't compare to the others.
They shoot excellent, I really ENJOY shooting it.
I struggled with longbows for years and the Abbott was one of several that I could handle well.
I picked Steve's bow out of those because I liked that he selects and cuts his own pacific yew. I thought that was pretty cool.

That being said, I'm sure the others are great too.
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: BWD on July 24, 2012, 11:13:00 AM
Good, better, best in no particular order. All are fine bows, but it's up to you to decide which is the best fit for you.lol
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: cbCrow on July 24, 2012, 12:42:00 PM
I have owned a GP, still have an Abbott, of those 2,to me, the Abbott justs feels better. But that is me as others have said if possible try before buying one.
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: Roadkill on July 24, 2012, 01:10:00 PM
I shoot bothAbbots and Libertys in our shop. No Great Plains.  I voted with my wallet on the two i got to shoot, and that is Liberty.  I own two.  Our Abbots are realllllly nice too.
Mine are two works of art, as that is what Allen does!
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: Car54 on July 24, 2012, 01:26:00 PM
I ditto the Liberty bows.  I have his Edge, real good speed,  smooth, super construction, & quite.
Allen will make the grip the way you want it.
I got mine in under three weeks.
Haven't tried the other bows.
Good luck
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: Chromebuck on July 24, 2012, 02:07:00 PM
All three bowyers are well recognized for craftsmanship and quality.  I own a Liberty Edge with Yew cores and it is top shelf at a reasonable price.  You need to feel each bow and determine what grip fits you like a glove and go with it.  A comparison of what we think is just subjective interferance.  With all three being equal all thats left is how each feels in your hand, and perhaps customer service provided.

~CB
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: Grey Taylor on July 24, 2012, 02:25:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Chromebuck:
All three bowyers are well recognized for craftsmanship and quality.  I own a Liberty Edge with Yew cores and it is top shelf at a reasonable price.  You need to feel each bow and determine what grip fits you like a glove and go with it.  A comparison of what we think is just subjective interferance.  With all three being equal all thats left is how each feels in your hand, and perhaps customer service provided.

~CB
What he said. A question like this is virtually worthless since everyone is going to feel the bows differently.
If my opinion on which bow to use was the same as everyone else's opinion, wouldn't there only be one bow for sale?

Guy
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: Bullfrog 1 on July 24, 2012, 03:05:00 PM
Liberty is great. I would also consider. Dwyer and Northern Mist.  Bill
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: Pokerdaddy on July 24, 2012, 03:12:00 PM
As has been said, all three are top notch.  I'm planning on picking up a Liberty Contender soon, but that's just me.
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: Rob W. on July 24, 2012, 03:29:00 PM
Liberty is on my short list for sure.
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: Dan in KS on July 24, 2012, 04:52:00 PM
I have a two peace Contender that is a great shooter.  Very smooth and quiet.  Great craftsmanship.

DB
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: Red Tailed Hawk on July 24, 2012, 06:07:00 PM
Out of the bows you listed I have only shot the Abbott. I traded for one here on the classifieds and it has become my favorite bow.

I like them so much I ordered a new one from steve Abbott,kept em both.
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: moththerlode on July 24, 2012, 09:22:00 PM
I shot two out of your choices 2 months ago .. wasn't even looking for a new bow as I had a Hummingbird on order.
I shouldn't have shot the Liberty Edge. But I did.  
And due to it I ended up with two new bows coming in the same week. I'll probably have him build me a Contender next year. Plus like others have said, he's a great guy to work with.
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: BBrakke on July 25, 2012, 03:15:00 AM
Thanks everyone for all the input! I know everyone has a different feel for all the different kinds of bows, but I was just hoping to see if anyone had any experience with the bow and/or the bowyers. I really enjoyed everyones comments, I am also open to any other suggestions. Those are just th three that seemed the best to me.
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: BBrakke on July 25, 2012, 03:19:00 AM
Also, out of all these bows, does anyone have any thoughts on whether yew or bamboo makes a better limb? I cant seem to find a straight answer about that. Since it's going to be my first high quality trad bow, I want something that will last the longest and produce the lease handshock.
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: Shifting Shadow on July 25, 2012, 05:32:00 AM
BBrakke, I have owned 3 Abbotts and now own a Liberty Contender. There's some magic in that bow.
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: Firstarrow on July 25, 2012, 06:01:00 AM
I have 4 of Alan's Liberty bows under my roof. I shoot a 54# 66" english with a bamboo core and a 58# 60" chief with a yew core. My draw is long, I shoot full length shafts and the back of my broadheads just touch the shelf. Both bows shoot well, and do not stack. I can't see an advantage over either core, talk to Alan though.

My 19 y/o daughter shoots. 52# 66" contender, my 14 y/o son just bought a 53# 66" edge they both love their bows. I shot a 60" edge at the longbow safari and almost brought it home.

Cant go wrong with a liberty!
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: David Mitchell on July 25, 2012, 02:44:00 PM
I doubt you would find any difference between yew and bamboo.  I sure can't tell any difference.  Pick the one that you like the looks of best--or, get one of each!  :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: gonefishing600 on July 25, 2012, 05:46:00 PM
When in doubt, see what the pro's are using.

Dave Wallace uses bamboo
Howard Hill used bamboo.
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: BBrakke on July 26, 2012, 03:01:00 AM
That's a very good point! Thanks so much everyone for your words of wisdom. Definitely helping me with my decision!
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: SCATTERSHOT on July 26, 2012, 10:15:00 AM
You would be hard pressed to find much difference in yew and bamboo, but the yew seems smoother to me. It's a prettier wood than bamboo, if you're going for clear glass.

Why not ask the bowyer what he prefers, and go from there? His design may favor one over the other.
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: steadman on July 26, 2012, 10:16:00 AM
Allen is as good of a guy as they come. And his bows are right therwe with him. You can't go wrong with the Liberty  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: shdwhwk on July 26, 2012, 10:51:00 AM
Agree, Allen and his bows are great. Have a Contender & 2 Edges, very smooth/fast designs, especially the Edge.

I feel the yew limbs draw smoother than boo and have a very pleasent release, worth sacrifcing a couple FPS. Just my humble opinion   :archer:
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: 58WINTERS on July 26, 2012, 11:06:00 AM
I've had Liberty English in boo and yew. I prefer the boo seems to have a little more snap but the yew draws nicer. I saw Allens new string folloW last spring didn't get to shoot it as it was a customers bow. Ebony riser carmelized boo limb core black glass. Stunning. The carmelized boo had color that resembled yew which contrasted beautifully with dark riser and glass.
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: Pine Hawker on July 26, 2012, 11:08:00 AM
I have 2 Contenders and one Liberty "Tiger" Bow (From the past) I'm a firm believer in staying with what works for you. I would contact the bowyers and see if any of them have a trial policy.

Shooting the bows will assist in your decision.

Good Luck!
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: 58WINTERS on July 26, 2012, 11:47:00 AM
Allen usually has a try before you buy bow or two. Better yet drive up to Brownsville, Or this week end for our annual Traditional Archers of Oregon Pope & Young shoot.  He is usually there.
Clout, Wand, 50 3d's on Sunday and novelties as well.
58
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: WidowEater on July 26, 2012, 05:20:00 PM
I cannot complain about my Liberty English.  The design is excellent if not for everyone because of the straight limbs.  I like the semi reverse handle design about his bows the most.  Best of bowth (haha) worlds as far as riser design goes.

I think Liberty represents an excellent value as well.  You get a lot of bow for the price paid.
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: arrow flynn on August 01, 2012, 08:38:00 PM
I have shot the liberty and the condender andyheyboth are faster than My hill bow. Both are great bows. Fine craftsmanship tight glue lines exquisitely crafted nocks. If you are a longbow nutcase you should have both. Imho.
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: ironmike on August 02, 2012, 11:55:00 AM
i've got three abbott longbows,one saxon, one fred anderson skookum,one bighorn, one howard hill,one dick palmer,and one karluk, all longbows,the abbotts are the best, smooth ,acuurate and hardhitting, most of all well balanced and comfortable.
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: BBrakke on August 08, 2012, 01:19:00 AM
Wow, thank you all for helping me with this! I'm going to try and make it to a shoot, but I leave in 2 weeks to go back to college in Montana. I will definitely inquire about the try before you buy policy, because that would be very helpful.
Title: Re: Abbott vs Liberty vs Great Plains
Post by: Red Beastmaster on August 08, 2012, 09:16:00 AM
I shot Abbott before Abbott was cool!

I'm on my third one now. I have shot lots of other longbows but nothing has compared to the quality, feel, and value of the Abbotts.

I have no experience with the other bows.