I have been looking at all these nice new slim quivers along with the Tred Barta one at 3Rivers and they all are around $100+. You know they look absolutely beautiful and I am sure they work just super, but I have went around and around with myself about buying one and I simply couldn't do it. I just feel like sometimes I have taken way more money from my family that we could have used to do things together rather than my hobby. So, I just got myself(and my brother one)the old Kwikee Clamp on quiver. Its just going to have to do.
any of you guys ever feel like this?
yes, I do feel like that often, Especially since my wife wont spend money on herself. Says that she doesnt want or need anything but I dont always believe her
C
Same way here, and like Caleb my wife spends very little on herself. That's why I ask for money at Christmas and birthdays and don't use our "common" money.
Yup, and what I'm about to say is true.
Many years ago after really thinking about this, I bought a side of leather and taught myself to make my own quiver, tab, armguard,etc.. Then built 5 more quivers and sold them. The first were far from perfect but I sold them auction style so people bid what they wanted and all sold. It paid for my quiver and I had EXTRA left over. For the family!
Now I do that with everything. I need a bow, I'll buy a few fixer uppers, refinish them and put them for sale. Put the money made aside a bit at a time until I have enough. There is usually more than I needed when done and it goes either to buying more fixer uppers or into the vacation/family fun fund.
This is a subject that hits home for me too.
I look at my bow rack with 6 or 7 nice (expensive) traditional bows, and I think how much I could put in my daughter's college fund if I sold off a bunch of them.
Some times it't hard to justify spending money on a hobby, but we'd all go crazy if we didn't have some form of recreation.
Bottom line, yes I do feel guilty for spending money on traditional bows and supplies.
My only hope is that my silly hobby won't be too much of a burden on my family's financial future.
I always think I could sell off a bunch of bows if I had too....then I would cry.
Brett
Nope, never once felt guilt for buying something I could aford. If I cannot afford it, I don't buy it. Ony the person doing the buying knows the answer.
My hobbies usually come from what-ever's left, so I don't tend to feel guilty about it. Moreover, the TIME that I put into archery and bowhunting does not detract from work or family responsibilities and opportunities. Frankly, compared to the cost of golf, or a lot of fishing, or following a pro-sports team (i.e. attending games), I suspect most of us are pretty moderate in terms of using family resources, especially if we shoot/hunt with other family members.
QuoteOriginally posted by Mike Vines:
Nope, never once felt guilt for buying something I could aford. If I cannot afford it, I don't buy it. Ony the person doing the buying knows the answer.
Yep. I have passed over many good deals over the past years due to finances. Just got a raise 2 weeks ago and the wife is back to work so I treated myself to a Jack Howard gamemaster jet I got cheap.
Thats a pretty good way to look at things Mike, also a good benchmark for any purchaser.
C
No guilt here. I don't spend money I can't afford to spend and when I do my wife encourages my fishing and bowhunting hobbies. She would rather see it spent on that than bourbon. At the end of the day she enjoys the fresh fish and venison which also reduces our grocery bill. Can't say that about golf.
QuoteOriginally posted by tuscarawasbowman:
QuoteOriginally posted by Mike Vines:
Nope, never once felt guilt for buying something I could aford. If I cannot afford it, I don't buy it. Ony the person doing the buying knows the answer.
Yep. I have passed over many good deals over the past years due to finances. Just got a raise 2 weeks ago and the wife is back to work so I treated myself to a Jack Howard gamemaster I got cheap. [/b]
Wanna sell it? :bigsmyl:
My Wife handles the bills so I get an allowance..lol.Hard to feel guilty buying something with that.RC
QuoteOriginally posted by YORNOC:
QuoteOriginally posted by tuscarawasbowman:
QuoteOriginally posted by Mike Vines:
Nope, never once felt guilt for buying something I could aford. If I cannot afford it, I don't buy it. Ony the person doing the buying knows the answer.
Yep. I have passed over many good deals over the past years due to finances. Just got a raise 2 weeks ago and the wife is back to work so I treated myself to a Jack Howard gamemaster I got cheap. [/b]
Wanna sell it? :bigsmyl: [/b]
How many arms and legs are you willing to give? :laughing:
I use too feel that way. but as my wife pointed out, all the bill's are paid, the kids and I have all we need. You deserve something to show for your hard work, and if it will last longtime, then it would be an investment right. I still research alot of things before I buy, guess part of being a tradganger, but I also think there comes a time when things just make sense to spend money on something that will A) make this obession more comfortable (ie, good cold weather clothes), and b0 Stuff that will last a longtime. you will eventually come to a point with quality material that you really don't need anything but arrows, new bow, broadheads, knife ....
I can afford it or I can't, but why not get a Big Jim's quiver for about half them other ones and then you have less you ned to squirrel away to get there. Nothing better looking or more functional out there!
Yornoc your leather work is amazing! Good stuff...
I'm the same as RC I spend my allowance. Sandra pays all the bills and she buys stuff she wants out of our money.
thing is, I can afford it, and my wife told me to buy what I wanted. Its me, nothing else. Its almost hypocritical feeling at times. I feel like I am one of these people watching these commercial hunting shows thinking I need the "best" of everything traditional. too add, I do have some fine equipment, exactly what I want, but I simply want to be more economical.
No guilt at all but 95% of my bows are used as I don't like paying retail. Hunting is just part of my life and if I didn't hunt and enjoy the outdoors life would be alot less rewarding. Looking forward to teaching my son and will be buying him gear more often as he gets older.
one thing my wife demands of me this season is to get a top quality safety harness! This, I feel no guilt about buying, but a tricked out quiver that looks awesome or a $1000 custom bow, when I can get a good old solid $17 quiver and 3 used bows that I have that are awesome(Howatt Hunter, Bamboo Viper, and Nomad Stalker)thats what I would feel guilty about.
My wife and I had this conversation before we got married. I promised her I'd never run the bars, chase women, and I'd go to Church on a pretty regular basis.....but I had another vice: hunting. That didn't mean I hunt every once in awhile, it meant that whenever there's something to hunt or get prepared to hunt I'm probably going to be doing that. I work hard and I do reward myself from time to time with small things but extravagences are rare and if I see a toy I just have to have I generally pay for it by selling another toy to cover it. My wife doesn't even roll her eyes anymore when long brown boxes come out of the big brown truck..... :rolleyes:
Generally, if i buy a bow, I've sold another to fund it. I try to buy used but recently bought a brand new bow. It was a big expense but the wife ok'd it. When i buy arrows or broadheads I liken it to my wife getting a mani/pedi. We both spend beneath our means so I dont worry about it too much.
If it works it does not have to cost a bundle or even look cool
My wife and children get lots of money spent for things they enjoy, and I have a couple of bows and lots of shafts, broadheads, feathers, hunting gear, blah blah blah. I don't need a bunch of bows, and try to make or modify things to fit my needs if I want to save money. Our household is pretty balanced. We all know that sometimes we get what we want, sometimes we just don't... and that goes for all of us.
Great topic that extends to many areas of our lives. Some do struggle with the bow and tackle addiction as people do gambling and chemical addictions.
The analogy that I came up with as a recovered fishing reel collector is this. Those once in a lifetime opportunities are most often not a once in a lifetime opportunity. So many things I thought I would never get the chance of hoarding have all eventually made their way into my collections and at a time when the finances were right to do so...I now never want anything bad enough to juggle the needs of my family...
Thanks for posting this.
~CB
QuoteOriginally posted by Chromebuck:
Great topic that extends to many areas of our lives. Some do struggle with the bow and tackle addiction as people do gambling and chemical addictions.
The analogy that I came up with as a recovered fishing reel collector is this. Those once in a lifetime opportunities are most often not a once in a lifetime opportunity. So many things I thought I would never get the chance of hoarding have all eventually made their way into my collections and at a time when the finances were right to do so...I now never want anything bad enough to juggle the needs of my family...
Thanks for posting this.
~CB
I think sometimes there is something to be said about having less. Wealth is not what you have, its what you have saved. Financially, I am fine, I have a great job and my wife is a teacher. We only have our mortgage and student loans, so no financial strain.
I just felt like I should be more thrifty. One of these days one of those fine slim jim or edge quivers will be on the classified forum and I'll get one then if the price suits me. I'll survive just fine with the old Kwikee quiver!
QuoteOriginally posted by Jeff Roark:
QuoteOriginally posted by Chromebuck:
Great topic that extends to many areas of our lives. Some do struggle with the bow and tackle addiction as people do gambling and chemical addictions.
The analogy that I came up with as a recovered fishing reel collector is this. Those once in a lifetime opportunities are most often not a once in a lifetime opportunity. So many things I thought I would never get the chance of hoarding have all eventually made their way into my collections and at a time when the finances were right to do so...I now never want anything bad enough to juggle the needs of my family...
Thanks for posting this.
~CB
I think sometimes there is something to be said about having less. Wealth is not what you have, its what you have saved. Financially, I am fine, I have a great job and my wife is a teacher. We only have our mortgage and student loans, so no financial strain.
I just felt like I should be more thrifty. One of these days one of those fine slim jim or edge quivers will be on the classified forum and I'll get one then if the price suits me. I did the same thing waiting for a longbow. I held out and held out and I was getting ready to buy a new Savannah when all of a sudden a fine nearly brand new Bamboo Viper appeared for $300. So, I'll survive just fine with the old Kwikee quiver in the mean time! [/b]
I don't feel guilty if I can afford it. I work hard and hunting and a little fishing is pretty much my only vice. Having said that, my current quiver is a cheap compound bow quiver.
I use what most people use for a compound quiver attached to my daypack. I copied the mounting bracket with a piece of aluminum and sandwiched the bag between the aluminum and the bracket making it very solid. It also prevents the bag from fraying or tearing.
When I get to my stand, I unlock it from the bag and lock it to my stand or hang it in the tree (extra mounting brackets).
Best $40 i ever spent, camoed too!
I get that way sometimes...that's why whenever I spend money on myself for archery gear I always clear it with my wife first...and then try and make sure she gets something of equal value, if not then, then the next time we have spare cash.
So she's got a bunch of different hand drums, flutes and instruments...and I've got a bow, broadheads, basically everything I need. And unless I absolutely need it for what I do, I don't buy it. A little guilt keeps me from accumulating too much stuff, and helps me remember this sport is about the shooter, and not the gear.
I'm in the same boat. I feel guilty when buying stuff for myself.
Archery is a new hobby for me so I made a point to include my wife in it.
So far we have taken a few archery lessons together and I'm slowly getting the idea into her head of buying bows together.
Lol I love archery but I don't even have a bow! Lol soon tho I think she'll cave!
My wife and I do Dave Ramsey's Financial Peace University. Part of that is we have a monthly buget meeting where we spend every dollar on paper. If all our obligations and goals are taken care of there is no guilt. My wife just got a vitamix she has been waiting a year for. I am getting a bow in september I have been waiting for for 3.5 years.
QuoteOriginally posted by RC:
My Wife handles the bills so I get an allowance..lol.Hard to feel guilty buying something with that.RC
Thats the way here also.
I really don't have but one hobby these days, so to speak. Buying a bow and accessories, every now and then, is pale when compared to some of the hobbies I've had in the past. Far less expensive than Harley Davidsons.
I've always hunted, so that expense does not figure into it.
I bought 1 $100 quiver and that sucker will go on all bows. Kinda thinking about selling it since, nice but I rarely shoot with a quiver on anymore and I dont need a $100 just to walk arrows to the tree and take it off.
also when going over how much i spent on archery over the last few years it was pretty bad. didnt realize how much i spent. might sell off a few bows
The only guilt I ever feel with traditional archery equipment is that I can't shoot all my bows at one time. :bigsmyl: Seriously though if I can afford something I want I will buy it.
QuoteOriginally posted by RC:
My Wife handles the bills so I get an allowance..lol.Hard to feel guilty buying something with that.RC
Same here!
We are a family of five, so money is very, very tight. I usually trade for what I want/need for hunting or save up and buy used stuff, especially high ticket items.
QuoteOriginally posted by sawtoothscream:
I bought 1 $100 quiver and that sucker will go on all bows. Kinda thinking about selling it since, nice but I rarely shoot with a quiver on anymore and I dont need a $100 just to walk arrows to the tree and take it off.
sort of what I feel about things. Doesn't change the fact that I would love to have one of these fine quivers, its just that I have become frugal I suppose?
I have resisted buying a nice bow quiver for years. An old suede back quiver has been with me on about every hunt for a long long time. But I might break down soon. I really don't know if I'm gonna like a quiver on my bow. We will see what's at the IBO shoot tomorrow. The list never ends on things you COULD buy. I have grown very selective.
QuoteOriginally posted by JamesKerr:
The only guilt I ever feel with traditional archery equipment is that I can't shoot all my bows at one time. :bigsmyl: Seriously though if I can afford something I want I will buy it.
Right with that. I make the money then pay bills, then whats left invest every month 401k, college accounts and rainy day safe $. Whats left over is fair game no guilt!
Ok money is one thing but what about time? Do you ever feel guilty?
My wife and I both work a lot lately to pay for the new house, weekends there is always something to do (and I don't mean fun things to do, fix this,go buy that,etc)so we don't spend a lot of time for ourselves as a couple, I do feel guilty when I say I want to spend the whole weekend hunting or use the few vacations days I have a year. She doesn't like hunting not even outdoors, so she can't come with me, she understand my hoby and doesn't make a big deal about it but still I do feel guilty sometimes.
on the money subject we are ok as I always rty to sell an old toy to afford a new one, last year I even sold one of my bows to pay for the wedding
QuoteOriginally posted by Chromebuck:
Those once in a lifetime opportunities are most often not a once in a lifetime opportunity. ~CB
I need to write this down :readit:
To avoid the guilt, make a budget. In the budget set aside amounts for both you and your wife for personal purchases. That way, if you use the money you budgeted for, there's nothing to feel guilty for. Make the decision on how much you can afford.
Nope, as long as the bills are paid and the wife gets her share all is well. I save for any trips I want to take or anything else I want to buy. If I have the money I do not feel guilty and if I do not have the money it don't get bought.
QuoteOriginally posted by Pon:
Ok money is one thing but what about time? Do you ever feel guilty?
My wife and I both work a lot lately to pay for the new house, weekends there is always something to do (and I don't mean fun things to do, fix this,go buy that,etc)so we don't spend a lot of time for ourselves as a couple, I do feel guilty when I say I want to spend the whole weekend hunting or use the few vacations days I have a year. She doesn't like hunting not even outdoors, so she can't come with me, she understand my hoby and doesn't make a big deal about it but still I do feel guilty sometimes.
on the money subject we are ok as I always rty to sell an old toy to afford a new one, last year I even sold one of my bows to pay for the wedding
Time wise yes, I only got out 10 days last year hunting every weekends choice was hunt, or either miss son's or daughters soccer games. So I took 6 days vacation during the week when they were in school to hunt.
Sold a bow to fund the wedding! Thats Love!.. or you didnt like that bow too much :biglaugh:
I never feel guilty.
Raised 2 daughters,1 son, and 2 grandsons and feel like I'm still raising them.
Have pretty much raised my 4 YO grandson since birth.
Still have to help kids financially due to the wonderful shape of the economy.
Have never told my wife she can't do something she wanted to do with the girls. Weekend trips, long trips, anything. I've actually allowed her to go, as I banked time for myself. Over the years I've built up a lot of "me" time. Even stayed home and worked/kept kids while she did her trips.
Do I feel guilty? NOPE..... and she understands.
If I have the money, I'll buy whatever I want. Don't have to talk it over with her.
If I don't have the money, I just don't think about buying things.
But Guilt never enters the picture.
I try to live by necessity and not by (want).
Some say im tighter then bark on a tree.
Only guilty of the time I spend doing what I love and my wife reminds me of that often.I can't help that her interest are not the same as mine,but yes I feel guilt.
no
NO
If your not happy for family suffers in the long run.As long as your familys not staveing or any major wants.Your the one takes care of them.
I get what I want when I want.
This time of my life,turned 71 this month,I don't worry about buying things,after sixty years of flinging arrows I have enough toys.When I was younger I always had a second job to help put extra money in budget and a little extra for hobbies,at one time payed for hunts by buying and selling archery equipment,sadly those days are gone with the introduction of the computer and ***** but it was a lot of fun.I just enjoy the remaining time hunting whenever I want.
Way too much, so much that it's got to where it's causing me to not hunt and scout different areas as much as I should.
It drives me crazy to see the look in his eyes and to hear him yip and whine when I shut the door.
QuoteOriginally posted by Pon:
Ok money is one thing but what about time? Do you ever feel guilty?
My wife and I both work a lot lately to pay for the new house, weekends there is always something to do (and I don't mean fun things to do, fix this,go buy that,etc)so we don't spend a lot of time for ourselves as a couple, I do feel guilty when I say I want to spend the whole weekend hunting or use the few vacations days I have a year. She doesn't like hunting not even outdoors, so she can't come with me, she understand my hoby and doesn't make a big deal about it but still I do feel guilty sometimes.
on the money subject we are ok as I always rty to sell an old toy to afford a new one, last year I even sold one of my bows to pay for the wedding
Pon,
Making a home together is quality time and quite possibly the best thing you will ever do together. Enjoy it while it lasts.
As for the guilt? No guilt here just common sense and old fashioned restraint. When you have a home to pay for and kids to feed and educate you just do what makes sense. I have 7 bows, 2 I've had since the 70's bought used. One longbow was a gift from my father, the rest I bought new as I could afford them and only 2 of them are in what I would call the expensive range. To me 800.00 is extravagant so I'll never have more than the 2, a long bow and a recurve. But like Jeff, lately I've been closely examining my need for things and thinking I don't need all of this stuff and I'm now thinking of simplifying things and not just the archery equipment. It just makes sense to let go and sell or gift any equipment you no longer use. Our egos drive us to varying degrees and it shows in the number and quality of the things we purchase. Some won't pay any attention to this because they don't see it yet. It has taken me 55 years to see it.
Duncan
I have raised 5 boys on a budget! I'm a probably the most frugal person out there. I have bought 2 bows in the last 20 years, I haven't bought any arrows in about 7 years. I have been shooting the same broadheads for close to 20 years Those carbons just keep on going. Family comes first for me and I make do with the equipment I have or replace it with stuff I make myself. The deer don't seem to mind! My wife like RC's pays the bills and gives me an allowance. I would rather squirrel it away towards future hunts then spend it on prettier equipment!
No I don't feel guilty .. kids are gone and the wife is far from deprived. In fact I have to import kids into the house in the form of exchange students just to keep the wife busy.
But then I don't just blow money either. Although I admit I've gotten a little carried away at times.
Well fellas, I feel happy with my choice. I got that simple old clamp on kwikee kwiver and it works like a charm. Glad I made that choice. Can't feel too guilty spending $15 for a quiver.