Where does the silencer normaly have more effect? Closer to the tip or closer to the nick point?
Every bow is different. On some I put them at the 1/3 point, on others the 1/4. Sometimes you just have to move them to find that "sweet" spot!
I generally start at the quarter marks on the sting which on my bows is generally 13-15" from the limb tip. I believe I'm a very poor judge of bow sound though.
I just do the 1/4 string mark. I like to tune my bow without silencers and try to find the quietest brace height. I then add the silencers. I haven't tried to see if another spot on the string would make it quieter, though, as it's pretty silent now.
1/4 usually works for me
I was told take the length of the string and divide by 4. Place the top silencer that distance down from the top string nock. Then take the length of the string and divide by 3. Place the bottom silencer that distance up from the bottom string nock. This is supposed to do something with dampening harmonic vibrations (or whatever, I'm not a scientist). It worked wonders on my Rudderbows Flat/long bow, that bow is whisper quiet now.
I put it in at the 1/3 and 1/4 point on the string.
13" seem's to be a good starting point!
Jason
If you want to know FOR SURE where the quietest place to put string silencers, do what I started doing recently. Get on your smartphone (or your kids/grandkids) and download a decible meter. The one I found was free and it works great. I am lucky enough to be able to shoot in my basement so I just set the phone next to me with the meter running and shoot different set-ups until I find the quietest one.
Tie on some catwhiskers with small zip ties and find out for yourself. Just slide em up and down til you find the sweet spot.
My bows seem to like them 5" from where the string touches the bow.
John
I use double cut down catwiskers and install them at 10in and 14in from the ends and they seem to work very well at balancing quieting the bow and not loosing any extra speed.
I just put catwhiskers and did them at 8" and 14". The bow shoot very quite.
I agree with UrbanDeerSlayer. What he describes is Heterodyning. Check out the article from TradBow.com tips column at http://www.tradbow.com/public/Heterodyning.cfm
It works.
QuoteEvery bow is different. On some I put them at the 1/3 point, on others the 1/4. Sometimes you just have to move them to find that "sweet" spot!
Yep.
Like Urban Deer Slayer
QuoteOriginally posted by Widowdoublelung:
I used to believe In 1/4s and 1/3s. From now on I will put them 10.5" from the unstrung pinched together string tip. I learned that from Rick Barbee strings. Since then I have changed all my boss to this set up. It has made them all quieter.
X2
Referencing the TBM tip, when they say where the string leaves the bow, are they referring to the string nocks or in the case of a strung but not drawn recurve the point at which the string is no longer in contact with the limb?
Silencers can be tuned like anything else.
There's no one spot that will work best for every bow.
It will vary depending on bow design, bow length, bow type, your release, your type of release, etc. etc. etc.
You can get in a range of "good enough" with a well designed bow that is quiet to begin with, or you can tinker a bit and get the best possible results.
Chad
I put mine at the fadeouts on a recurve and at 1/3 on longbows.
Does the 1/3 and 1/4 combo affect your nock point?
I tried that and my arrow flew really bad. Put them the same distance and the arrow flies perfect. Wondering if it was just me or if it was the silencers??
QuoteOriginally posted by TxAg:
QuoteOriginally posted by Widowdoublelung:
I used to believe In 1/4s and 1/3s. From now on I will put them 10.5" from the unstrung pinched together string tip. I learned that from Rick Barbee strings. Since then I have changed all my boss to this set up. It has made them all quieter.
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I was a dyed in the wool 1/3, 1/4 user until a bowyer installed some silencers on a bow I was buying. I haven't measured, but they are close to the 10.5" mentioned above. That bow went from loud to WOW!! this thing is quiet.
I am going to try it on my older bows soon.