guys/gals, I have hunted in cold weather here in illinois for decades and used a wide variety of boots, from Rockies to Muck. I have read alot about the kennteck and schees. I was wanting to know who makes a good boot for the money, with a wool liner that is similar to the LL Bean Maine hunting boot, that would keep me comfy in 0 degree weather for stand hunting or slow stalking. As always you imput is appreciated.
I have a pair of Kennetreks that are good in the cold, but when it gets really nippy, I'm gonna be in Muck boots. Toasty toes at 10 below with Mucks.
I assume your sitting for long periods of time?
If very cold, don't bother with the lined LL Bean boot.
I used to own a sporting goods store in northern Michigan and sold pac boots. I hate to say it because I didn't sell them, but Cabelas makes the best pac boot I and all my Michigan buddies have ever owned. The reviews say it all...
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I might not know much but what I do know is Steger Mukluks work. I have the artic extrems.
I like them so much that Im gonna order another pair (camuks), which are there more water resistant pair. I can wear not just for the dry snow.
There amazing, I had a pair last year, its like wearing your slippers on stand.
My first pair are two sizes big and wide for a thick wool sock. The camuks will be a one size bigger for a med to light wool sock.
I used to wear heavy pack boots. They worked fine. However, have been wearing Muck Woody Max boots the last several years. They've kept my feet nice and toasty on all day sits in northern Wisconsin in November. Probably a little too warm for a lot of walking, but fine for still hunting. And, you have a waterproof boot as well.
Muck boots are comfy, but my favorite is still the old "Micky mouse" boots. I absolutely love these surplus military boots, I have been wearing them for all my late season stand hunting for 20 years and will continue to for the next 20.
They obviously don't have a wool liner but I still think they are tops.
When I hunt our coldest weather of the year, I've got on my Danner Pronhorns and they are covered with the Arctic Shielf boot covers. Never gotten cold like that.
Ken
If you are going to be stationary, Mickey Mouse boots are the greatest as far as warmth is concerned. Movement is another issue tho....
I have always had very cold feet.
They sweat a lot and get cold.
I can have cold feet when it's 60˚ out and I'm sitting in my house.
I think one the very most important things in a cold weather boot is fit.
They can NOT be tight.
You want them almost loose on your foot.
Otherwise you are restricting blood flow.
Anyway, I bought a pair of Mickey boots, you know the military surp with the valve on the side.
Got them extra wide.
And I just wear a pair of extra heavyweight smart wool over the calf socks.
My feet just don't get cold anymore.
I've been out in neg temps and my feet are fine.
I've tried about $1200 worth of boots and socks trying to find a combo that worked.
Good things about these boots other than warmth are they go on and off very easy since there isn't a lining. also, they don't accumulate sweat and get smelly since it's just rubber inside.
Cons are they are heavy, you want to wear high socks because the rubber will pull out the hair on your legs at the top of the boot.
Also, the valve can be a pain..literally..
If you sit on the ground and rest your ankle sideways the valve digs into the ground and hurts your ankle.
I found you can cut out that valve really easily by just cutting around it on the outer layer only.
After that a just cleaned the rubber and filled the hole with some silicone caulk.
It's been working great for 3 seasons now....the boots themselves have been working for 6 years.
I know it sounds like a pita but I sure don't see myself wearing another combo..it just works too well.
Good luck
Cold feet suck.
thanks guys, and yes I should of stated am familiar with cold weather wear, and do layer my socks and all. I used the "Mickey Mouse boots in the corps in cold weather training was good, but figure we come a little further. The Mucks are nice, but with my knee surgery cann't use them. I has a pair of Rocky's long time agao 1200 grams thinsulation that was awesome, matter of fact wore those boots out. Will continue research, liked what Mojostick said. Thanks to all for replies.
Sorels
Decent boots with slip on boot covers and hot hands inside! trust me, just tried it last year. works awesome. no heavy boots and the over boots pack up nice. you will not get cold feet.
A very good friend of mine had polio when a child and as a result was very susceptible to cold. Over the years he spent a fortune on boots in a never ending search for a pair that would keep his feet warm, but to no avail. Finally, the only thing that worked for him was a pair of those heated battery powered socks. They worked like a charm. That was years ago and with technology now, I suspect there are improvements such as those chemical packs that you insert into the boot.
Sorel expeditions, make sure you get the double wool liners and you will never get cold feet again.
If on stand, boot blankets and hand warmers will make your feet sweat. I like to wear some nice light hikers so not to sweat, then the boot blankets, then if its really cold the hand wamers.
I don't remember the warmest boots I ever had but they started with wool tobogans and down vests. Keep your head and chest really warm and the old body can afford to send a little warm blood down to the little piggies.
These are not made for walking but work great while on stand. Get a pair of Ice King liners 2 sizes bigger than your feet and put them inside a pair of Artic Shield Boot Covers. If it is going to be above 20, I do not put hot packs in but if it is going to be colder, I throw a hot pack in each one. I have used this for 3 years and my feet have been warm every time using them. Without them, my feet freeze. I just wear regular boots in and change them when I get to the stand.
i walked for a living in colorado for 22 years.
spent about half those winters wallowing around in sorels.
anyone who recommends sorels has not worn schnee's.
it is just that simple.
joe
Yep, no more bulky boots in cold weather for me. My uninsulated Maine hunting boots and Arctic Shield covers (weigh next to nothing) for me. Hand warmers only in extreme cases. It really works great!
Sorel Glaciers
I got tired of cold feet. Finally got a pair of Cabelas 2000 grain thinsulate Cabelas boots. I wear a pair of Merlino wool socks with a pair of polypropylene socks and my feet finally stay warm.
Spray your feet with unscented anti-perspirant before putting on your socks. Keeps your feet from sweating as much so the socks stay dryer and your feet warmer.
A few years back there was a thread with a link to a website that sold heated insoles for boots. You just replaced the insole in the boot with these and you could wear whatever boot you wanted. The battery was somewhere in the insole and rechargeable. They also had a thermostat; they would turn on when your foot temp was below 96 and turn off when it got to 96. I can't remember the name of them but maybe someone else remembers. They were $100 and I didn't buy them but would like to if I can figure out where to get them.
My sorels are for sitting only, very cluky to walk in, but -40 in wet feet (fallen through the ice and feet stayed nice and toasty. I sit and hunt in -30 many times for up to 5 hours at a time and these boots work great. They are very high end sorels.
I agree with a moderate boot and the boot blankets for sitting on stand, however, I do own a pair of the Schnees pac boots made for the coldest weather and they are great! I would guess the Kenetrek models are just the same. They are super warm, comfortable and well made...
I had a pair of 10" Kenetrek grizzly packs. Excellant boot, but not worth a hoot in the cold. Might work for a warm blooded person, but for me...no good! I go with a Muck Woody Max! JMHO!
Jason