Who does this, and what is the best material to use? Also, what is the best method of tying so that the nock point doesn't move? My brass nock point will sometimes scratch the side of my face, so I'd like to solve that problem, but I haven't been able to tie on a nock point that will stay secure.
Dental floss with a drop of glue.
I invested in a spool of yellow serving string. Plenty of you tube vids on how to. Whip has a great one in the how-to. I usually just tie a couple of overhand knots and super glue.
I use serving material, not nylon mono type. Same thing I serve the string with. After you know you have it in the correct location, drop of glue to hold it.
I use dual, one over one under the nock and use a strand of string material.
Here is what I've found works best for me.
Tie the top nock point on serving. Don't tie them really tight or it will be hard to screw up and down the string at first to get your nock height where you want it. Also make sure you snip the left over tag about 1/4" and then burn it down. Then you can screw it up and/or down the string with your fingers. Then I roll a thin piece of masking tape around the string under your arrow nock and shoot. Once I find the proper place for the top nock point I screw it down the string a couple turns. Then place a dab of glue just above the tied on nock on the string. Then screw the tied on nock back up to where it was and the glue underneath will set and you won't have any issues with it slipping up and down. Now put an arrow on the string and tie on the bottom nock and glue the same way. Leave the bottom one about a 1/8" below your arrow nock. If you tie it up to tight to the arrow nock it will pinch when you draw and will loosen them.
I got a few strings from allen at lefties r-us and i had him put on tie on nocks and they work awesome you can slide them up and down until you tune your bow and than i just put a dad of glue to hold them in place when im done, i tried using dental floss but i couldnt get it to work. i think alot of people use serving material but i didnt have any on hand
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One above and one below-dental floss and superglue. Make sure you know where you want it. :archer2:
I got a big roll of mil-surp dental floss at a gun show and it works great.
I tie occasional half hitches as I wrap the floss around the bowstring. I finish off with a square knot and leave the ends about 1/16" proud. I carefully melt those down to the knot with a match and then put a drop of Duco over the whole thing. I've never had one move or come off.
Guy
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There are couple of more in the "how to" section...
I use a single tie-on nock using serving material. This method and a drop of crazy glue works well for me.
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Braided serving and over hand Knots(alternate string sides) finshed with a square knot burn ends and drop of glue
I use waxed dental floss and then put dab of superglue or fletchtite on to hold in place. Be sure to wrap the floss in same direction your fingers pull on string so it does not unravel during shooting.
I start with a knot on first loop to put in place after waxing up string really well on bow. Then I put a loop in floss and lay it along string and start wrapping clockwise over the string and loop leaving end exposed like doing serving. I make sure the wraps are tight and compact...and then stick loose end through loop left outside...grab other end of loop with pliers and pull to tuck string under itself....then dab some fletchtite or super glue over floss nock to make it dry as single unit. Last for life of string....
I tie on two, one over and one under the arrow nock. I prefer the method McDave does, and put in the 'how too' section. I use regular Halo serving material. I have used the 'overhand knot' method and that works great for adjusting and tuning but in my experience doesn't stay put as good as the McDave method.
I serve fairly tight and then take some gel super glue - the last was from LocTite - and put it on the serving and, before it dries, rub it in good using a piece of plastic wrap. After that dries tie on your nocking point and coat with super glue again. You shouldn't have to worry about it again for a long time.
I use BCY Nock Point tying thread. I tie 7 half hitches, alternating over/under. Tie it pretty snug, finish it by melting the ends of the last half hitch (no need for a square knot).
You can then twist up/down to tune. When I have them in place (one over, one under the arrow) I lock them down with a bead of super glue on the outside edge of each one. I tie each one so the finish knot is away from the arrow.
If you ever need to move it, the glue can be picked away with the tip of a knife.
I have tied a few million of these in the past couple years, and this is what works best for me. :bigsmyl:
Lots of good info here.
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I watched that video, tried it for myself, and never looked back! Two tied nock points on every string, and never any glue!
Thom
When I make a new string for a bow, I keep the old string and use strands from it to tie nock locators.
I've been use tie-on nocks since I started shooting traditional over 15 years ago.It just looks more traditional then using the brass crimp-on nocks.And you don't any tools other then a bow square.I'll use B50,D97,just pieces of an old string.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Bud B.:
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I watched that video, tried it for myself, and never looked back! Two tied nock points on every string, and never any glue!
Thom [/b]
this is the one
i tried a few others but this is the best i think and easy to do
I do as many do here. There is a video at nasparchery.com used to instruct teachers how to do this.
The first knot is a surgeon and then 5 (alternatinig under and over string)half overhand knots and end with surgeon. Like others have said leave 1/4" and melt and flatten. I use bowstring material because it is flatter and melts nicely.
I tie one above and one below leaving the gap Tom mentioned to avoid nock pinch.
I've talked to the folks at BCY (Ray) and he recommends against using any type of glue on these threads. If the glue soaks through to the bowstring the string can break at that point.
I've never had a glueless nock locator (tied on) move unless I twisted it up or down (which is difficult because I tie them tight).
I do, and I use yellow 8125 string material as my tie on nock.
Great info in the "how-to" section. I use B50 and just do half knots, 6 or 8 and then a full knot, burn and dab it with super glue.
McDave's how to.really works great and it will not move once you pull both ends tight.
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When I make a new string for a bow, I keep the old string and use strands from it to tie nock locators.
that's what i've gone to. used to use dental floss but like the old string material better
I must tie mine on too tight because I cannot adjust mine once tied on and I do not glue them. I would like to be able to adjust for tune then burn it in. Are you guys tying tight???
I do 2 string nockes. I found a material I liked the thickness of (idk what it is) and I tie that in. Then I serve above the top and bottm nocks to make sure they stay in place after I get everything tuned up. I like my stuff to stay in tune and nothing for me to worry about.
Another for over the rainbow, through the rainbow. It works great and the video is a wonderful instructional tool. Try it and you won't be disappointed.
Same here for "over the rainbow, thru the rainbow".
Unwaxed dental floss and glue
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McDave's how to.really works great and it will not move once you pull both ends tight.
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Just tied on my first nocking point using this method and it worked great. The only thing I wish I did different was used a color of serving that shows up better against my serving.
Schafer
Thanks for all the replies guys. I'll definately be trying one or more of these methods as soon as I get the time.
I use regular dental floss. I tie the one up/one down knot and have never had one come loose.
After I tie it, I take a chunk of beeswax and heat it and let a drop fall on the nock points. I smear it in with my fingers.
My dental hygienist knows to always give me a pack of red colored floss after she cleans my teeth!
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I use BCY Nock Point tying thread. I tie 7 half hitches, alternating over/under. Tie it pretty snug, finish it by melting the ends of the last half hitch (no need for a square knot).
You can then twist up/down to tune. When I have them in place (one over, one under the arrow) I lock them down with a bead of super glue on the outside edge of each one. I tie each one so the finish knot is away from the arrow.
If you ever need to move it, the glue can be picked away with the tip of a knife.
I have tied a few million of these in the past couple years, and this is what works best for me. :bigsmyl:
What he said, except I use a nylon type serving material and I use 10 knots instead of 7. Oh, and I tie two of them, one above the arrow and one below:
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i use dental floss also
I always tie mine. Never liked the brass nock point locators. I use white nylon thread that I got years ago at an army navy store. I use plenty of beeswax on the thread to tie it tight.
i use an old bow string just seperate the string and cut what you need. one string will give you enough material for along time and it usually holds together because its already waxed.i lay the sting back on itself wrap as big or little as i want go back through loop and pull booth ends tight.
Mr. Pheonix,
Use your bowsquare, and measure 3/8" to 1/2" above shelf height....take some serving cord (kite string, dental floss, etc) and do a double over hand knot on the bowstring where you want the nocking point....wrap both ends of your serving/string around your nocking point four or five times doing an overhand knot each time....finish with another double overhand (aka surgeons' knot).....put a dab of glue, or if acrylic, apply heat to melt the material just slightly. Trim to suit your taste. You could put a second knot above your arrow leaving a space just right for your nock.