Trad Gang

Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: darin putman on July 03, 2012, 11:56:00 PM

Title: shooting Ishi style
Post by: darin putman on July 03, 2012, 11:56:00 PM
I've seen pictures of Ishi shooting right handed off right side of bow, would be similar to me a righthand shooter shooting a left hand bow.I've shot this way off my hand with a pignut hickory selfbow just wandering if anyone shoots this style off a lefthanded shelf bow, accuratly.
Title: Re: shooting Ishi style
Post by: Pat B on July 04, 2012, 08:58:00 AM
With a standard Medetreanian release(split or 3 under) a right handed shooter almost has to shoot from the left side of the bow because of how your fingers open at the release. Ishi used a pinch style grip so it didn't matter.
Title: Re: shooting Ishi style
Post by: RedShaft on July 04, 2012, 09:33:00 AM
lol. i bet if ishi would have had tradgang and had guys teach him good techniques he would have been killing game at 50 yards.
Title: Re: shooting Ishi style
Post by: Pat B on July 04, 2012, 10:40:00 AM
Ishi didn't like shooting at a target and wasn't very good at it. With game, however, he rarely missed. I think we could all use advise from him on hunting.
Title: Re: shooting Ishi style
Post by: sweeney3 on July 04, 2012, 11:44:00 AM
I've tried shooting with his style, and I felt like a drunk monkey trying to do an oil change under water with chopsticks.  But, it obviously worked for him.  Really, whatever technique is used, shooting (anything) is largly muscle memory.
Title: Re: shooting Ishi style
Post by: dragonheart on July 04, 2012, 12:07:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by RedShaft:
lol. i bet if ishi would have had tradgang and had guys teach him good techniques he would have been killing game at 50 yards.
He would have developed target panic from thinking too much about it.      :p
Title: Re: shooting Ishi style
Post by: Pat B on July 04, 2012, 12:28:00 PM
Right on dragonheart!
Title: Re: shooting Ishi style
Post by: Widow's Son on July 04, 2012, 01:11:00 PM
I've never tried shooting Ishi style. Not sure I could do it. Looks like a real arm burner to me.  :scared:  

Ross
Title: Re: shooting Ishi style
Post by: team fudd on July 04, 2012, 02:42:00 PM
I believe he shot that way because of the type of release he utilized.  He used his thumb as a hook under the arrow and forefinger on top of the nock  to stabilize.  Similar to a mongolian release that utilizes a thumb ring.  That was an intersting aspect of research concerning the Yahi tribe because the way they shot their bows was unlike any of the other surrounding tribes but very much like the asians or mongols. Interesting to note that the Yahi indians also had much lighter skin tone than surrounding tribes, very similar to asians in appearance.  Food for thought
Title: Re: shooting Ishi style
Post by: wildwood on July 04, 2012, 05:24:00 PM
As I understand it they tried to ask him if it was his own stlyle or if that was the way he was taught,passed down from generations. they were trying to trace land migration ot anchient peoples. He wouldn't say cause it was taboo to speak of such things. at least that was what I was told.
Title: Re: shooting Ishi style
Post by: Widow's Son on July 04, 2012, 05:32:00 PM
From what I've read getting information from Ishi could be like pulling teeth. Some things he would openly share and others not. They just never knew how he would respond. They never even learned his real name.
Title: Re: shooting Ishi style
Post by: wildwood on July 05, 2012, 03:05:00 AM
I live about an hour from oroville ca where he showed up. In fact a movie they made about him years ago was filmed on my wifes parents property there,at least parts of it.
Title: Re: shooting Ishi style
Post by: tuscarawasbowman on July 05, 2012, 08:52:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by team fudd:
I believe he shot that way because of the type of release he utilized.  He used his thumb as a hook under the arrow and forefinger on top of the nock  to stabilize.  Similar to a mongolian release that utilizes a thumb ring.  That was an intersting aspect of research concerning the Yahi tribe because the way they shot their bows was unlike any of the other surrounding tribes but very much like the asians or mongols. Interesting to note that the Yahi indians also had much lighter skin tone than surrounding tribes, very similar to asians in appearance.  Food for thought
You hit it right on the money. They go into his shooting style somewhat in "ishi in two worlds" i do believe.