My son and I are new to archery, and our first hunt will be fall turkey.
He likes his back quiver, and I thought I would like a bow mounted quiver, but after a few 3D shoots I feel it makes my bow cumbersome, and unbalanced when carrying it.
So I'm looking for another option.
When hunting I love to use my camelback to carry water and minor supplies, so a back quiver will need to work around this. or attach.
What quiver do you spot and stalkers like and why?
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I like this one, I also have a 3 blade model as I mostly shoot Woodsmans/VPA's.
I like it because it is light. If I need more than 2 arrows, I better go home and practice! I do carry a few extra arrows in a back quiver though, but not on a stalk. The pack and boots come off.
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I use a Bison Gear pack with the optional back quiver. A system that works well for me.
Those Bison Packs look great!
I fought it for awhile, but if I were you I would just get more accustomed to a bow quiver. When you are crawling on a stalk, both a side quiver and back quiver are much more of a hinderance than help, IMHO. Getting a lighter, lower profile quiver such as and EFA certainly helps. For fall turkey as you describe, a setup like shedrock's looks pretty good, and most side quiver's such as a safari tuff, gfa, or great northern ought to do pretty well. Since you say you are new to archery, if you plan on alot of spot and stalk I would really try to get more comfortable with a bow quiver.
I use a bow quiver as well. If the balance is a problem then try out ones that hold fewer arrows as stated earlier. Mine holds 5, 4 broad heads and 1 judo.
MAP
I use a Camelback too and throw my Mini-Catquiver over it. It holds 6 arrows securely and doesn't make any noise in the boonies.
I love the looks, weight, and function of the large Big Jim's bow quiver.
I tried side and back quivers and it is a pain in the butt to deal with.
If you wanted to use a back quiver, the catquiver mini would strap to your camelbak nicely, but on a stalk a pack may as well be a drum, it will get you busted...
Shedrock that is a cool setup you got there!
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I've always been a fan of bowquivers.
Not just because they're awesome for stalks, or runnin and gunnin on Elk.
But, I could be on a weeklong trip, or have an afternoon to sit a treestand for B tag whitetails on the family ranch. It keeps life easy, having your arrows with your bow.
Shedrock...what make of quiver is that?
I like the looks of it.
Thanks,
Chuck
I use a bow quiver now, not because I necessarily like it, but because I think it allows me the best chance of making a second shot with the least movement.
It still boils down to personal preference.
The EDGE
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Great N orthern bow quiver on my longbow
GFA! I have one that is wool covered, matches the vest I just got from Teresa, and it is light, manueverable, and quiet.
I have used bow quivers a fair bit but dislike the weight on my bows . Also , I haev grown up using Hill style back quivers that , with practice , work really well .
However, the older I get the more comfy I like to be and as such enjoy carrying thsoe few exra's that the make the day afield more enjoyable .
The Side Stalker , The Raptor Side Quiver and the Safarituff Arrowmaster are the best options IMHO ...
With the nod for overall ease of use and quietness going to the Arrowmaster by a long way .
Bow quiver- great northern nuff said :)
QuoteOriginally posted by yukon chuck:
Shedrock...what make of quiver is that?
I like the looks of it.
Thanks,
Chuck
Yep. Me too.
You would like a Safari Tuff or a GFA type. I have made several GFA types out of old worn out bow quivers.
I have come to love the Great Northern strap on bow quiver, holds 3-5 arrows and that is all I need. Plus weighs about 8 ounces.
Great ideas guys!
I do have a Selway, Great Northern, and a Kanati Quiver for my long bow.
The Selway is too huge and bulky for my liking,
The Great Northern is lighter but it's the non adjustable model called the "longbow" but it's too short to fit my longbow.
My favorite by far is the 4 arrow Kanati, but it still feels like the bow wants to twist out of my hand when carrying it.
The edge bow quiver looks nice but I don't think I'll gain much over the Kanati I already have.
Shedrock! Who makes that two arrow in your first post? I think that might do the trick?
I like the Jack's "Stealth" for a backup, but I'd be worried about fletching damage or arrow loss in heavy brush.
The safari tuff looks like it protects the arrows well, but damn it's ugly! and I think it will clash with my Blue flannel shirt and blue jeans, and hunting mocs.....
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I'm new to this traditional stuff too, but I've never liked bow quivers. I used to put them on my hunting compounds, but just to transport my arrows. I took them off once I got in my stand.
With a bow quiver, every time you take an arrow out, or add an arrow, you're changing the weight and balance of your bow. It seems like that would be even more magnified with these lightweight traditional bows.
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eminart, when I was practicing for my buffalo hunt i practiced with the quiver loaded except one arrow was missing from the quiver (from the slot that I pull the first arrow from). This would be the exact setup as for my actual first shot hunting. I didn't notice any significant difference in accuracy, although I had an aluminum ilf riser, so there was already some weight there. This is the first year really using a bow quiver. There are just too many advantages when you are doing spot and stalk hunting for me to do otherwise. Stand hunting is another ballgame, for sure, but my totem style efa quiver can easily be removed on the stand if I wanted to. I have no dog in this fight, however, so use whatever is best. I know the sidequivers were very cumbersome when trying to belly crawl up on a group of hogs and and when using a back quiver on top of a daypack/hydration pack you get hung up on brush that you duck under. Your milage may vary.
yep
Its hard to beat a bow quiver when you have ground to cover.
SL
I'd like to hear from some of the folks who own and have hunted with the Absorkee Quiver from Far West Leather if possible.
Bow quiver with fletch cover is by far my choice when stalking. Once u move bow through brush you have alteady moved the arrows.....quiver acts as a blind when held up breaking up outline.....easy access to 2nd arrow with less movement an sound AND you can do so while keeping eye on game.
If u dont like the weight....there's lots of choices. Get a lighter one an just take 3 arrows.
I shoot the same whether the bow quiver has 5 arrows in the quiver 4,3,2,1 or none. If anyone does shoot different with one arrow missing....the bow quiver may not be installed properly .....not off the limbs and into the fade outs....or you may have form issues. Good form and proper alignment don't know how many arrows are in your quiver.
EFA makes some really lightweight ones, lighter than GN. I have a 4 arrow and hardly notice it.
i use a kanati 4 arrow bow quiver with a piggyback holder to carry a blunt. i'm like Terry in that i can't tell any difference in my shooting whether the quiver is fully loaded or not. i carry a simmons rotoquiver sometimes but for spot and stalk, a bow quiver is the simplest, easiest quiver that works for me.
Bow quiver with fletch cover is by far my choice when stalking. Once u move bow through brush you have alteady moved the arrows.....quiver acts as a blind when held up breaking up outline.....easy access to 2nd arrow with less movement an sound AND you can do so while keeping eye on game.
If u dont like the weight....there's lots of choices. Get a lighter one an just take 3 arrows.
I shoot the same whether the bow quiver has 5 arrows in the quiver 4,3,2,1 or none. If anyone does shoot different with one arrow missing....the bow quiver may not be installed properly .....not off the limbs and into the fade outs....or you may have form issues. Good form and proper alignment don't know how many arrows are in your quiver.
selway 2 piece bow quiver for me. ive shot with a loaded bow quiver for so many years now i cant imagine shooting without one...
Yeah Randy ....I remember the 6 shots at hogs my on my 1ST trip to Ray's ......
Shot a small pig with full quiver....next shot a bruiser with full quiver.....10 seconds later, in a matter of 10 seconds i sent 3 killing arrows into another nice hog, the last arrow with the hog fleeing, leaving only one arrow left in my quiver......later that afterrnoon, with full quiver again, Ray shoots one and it comes flying by me and i sent an arrow into that one also.
Not knocking other quvers, cause i use other types for other situations, just trying to answer the OP,s question for spot and stalk choice.
For practice I have shot the arrows from the bow quiver and have noticed no difference as the quiver gets lighter.
So it sounds like I need to toughen up and quit whining about my bow quiver!
I have a GN 4 arrow longbow and a rawhide Selway 5 arrow longbow slider available for trade for a Safari Tuff arrowmaster
How do those piggy back mount? It looked like they mount to another arrow? Do they render and arrow useless?
I would like to take a judo point with me.
Im not sure what u r asking in your last paragraph.
QuoteHow do those piggy back mount? It looked like they mount to another arrow? Do they render and arrow useless? I would like to take a judo point with me.
Here's the piggy back on the Edge quiver by Eagles Flight, the extra gripper mounts off the totem.
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If Ron got it.....judos can piggyback but don't have to piggyback.....they can go under the hood also.
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Im not sure what u r asking in your last paragraph.
My Kanati quiver is a two piece, and it looks like the piggy backs attach to a shaft. So if I used the piggy back I would have to use one of my arrows to mount it, defeating the reason for adding the piggy back.
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If Ron got it.....judos can piggyback but don't have to piggyback.....they can go under the hood also.
I carry a judo most times but I've never used a piggyback.
safari tuff arrowmaster is what I use when stalking turkeys in spring and fall. can carry camel on back, and no weight on bow.
I will always love my backquiver, and for quick hunts close to the truck or camp, I will always take it over any other. That said however, I do like the stalker style over the shoulder quiver, 3 Rivers offers several. Last year I tried an EFA 4 arrow for my sheep and goat hunts. I had never liked bow quivers before, but EFA makes a fantastic, light, easy on/easy off quiver that is hard to beat.
Angel,
The Kanati Pro angle quiver would give you a little better balance then the 2 piece you currently have and the piggy back would mount to the flat metal bar that attaches the hood to the arrow grippers. I recently bought ones after using the GFA style , and I also have the Arrow master, they all have there place but the bow quiver seems to quiet my bow and it one less thing to carry on my back.
Here a pic of the new pro angle set up, easy on and off and still fairly light weight.
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Angel,
The Kanati Pro angle quiver would give you a little better balance then the 2 piece you currently have and the piggy back would mount to the flat metal bar that attaches the hood to the arrow grippers. I recently bought ones after using the GFA style , and I also have the Arrow master, they all have there place but the bow quiver seems to quiet my bow and it one less thing to carry on my back.
I think shedrocks 2arow quiver is a abs skookum and I dont know if they are still make em
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Does anyone use a Possibles Bag/Quiver combo in these situations? That's what I would like to do. I have never shot a longbow or recurve with a quiver attached to it. Not saying I wouldn't like it, I just don't know. I do prefer my bows without anything on them, just a personal preference of mine and nothing at all to do with any field experience. In fact I have only bowhunted a few times with a TRAD bow and that was back in Ohio for deer. Now I am in Texas and have switched all my desires to HOG hunting. So I am trying to figure out this very same question too.
I'd like to hear about Possibles Bags/quivers too, if there is anyone that goes that way.
Thanks.
Didn't mean to hijack the thread from the OP. Sorry if it looks that way.
Nalajr
I have tried and tried to get rid of my bow quivers. I cannot find anything as conveinient though and alsways come back. Especially for stalking, i like the quiver to angle back towards me so my bow is the farthest thing in front of me not any noisy feathers.
Great Northern just came out with the "Kickback" Adjustable model that does just that. I am going to stop looking for the better mousetrap now.
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I don't think the answer is to get another bow quiver, I'll just learn to love the Kanati that I have. I have an Idea for a modification, If I get to it this weekend I'll post up some pics.
I really wish that Safari Tuff came in blue plaid, or leather, I'm not much of a camo fan.....
I like to shoot a bare bow. I use a Simmons Tube quiver. Unlike alot of other side quivers it hangs straight down behind shoulder. If ya need to move, it holds tight to body. If you want to be extra careful hold with arm. Low visiblity getting an arrow out. Crawling, stays close to body. Raining, it protects fletchings. Arrows do not rattle. When drawing back on a critter no additional stuff to catch an eye(like a bunch of fletchings).
They are not made anymore but I see one every now and then. New price was $75. Can get for $50-60 now.
Only draw back at times is if a bush bumps against quiver it can make a noise(hollow tube). My arm usually protects that from happening(always ready to get an arrow out). I find that if I am "still hunting" too fast my quiver will tell me. I see more deer now before they see me.
Tried lots of quivers, I do prefer a side quiver /"plains quiver" or "Lakota" for 3D shoots.
I ended up with 4 different bow quivers in my hunt for the perfect one.
I'm hoping to avoid getting so many side and back quivers!
I'm selling off stuff to fund an Arrowmaster!
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I like the GFA. When moving through the brush, I tighten up the strap and have it under my right arm. I never find it in the way. I get the convenience of a bow quiver, but just don't like the feel of one on my bow, and dislike the "flagging" that a quiver of bright fletching creates.
I never thought I'd see an Irishman that liked Scotch plaid ... :rolleyes:
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I prefer the blue and white plaid....
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i shot this doe last year on a still hunt. i like a side mounting quiver. arrows is always there if i need another. i do not like a back quiver. to bulky for me and i cant stalk or crawl with one well if i need to.
i have a selway and a kanati. i like them both
I have every quiver made and used every one of them. I still go back to the GN strap on or side mount, I don't like a bow quiver but nothing beats it on a stalk. If you have a pack on you don't need anything else hanging on your back.