I have an honest 30" draw and am currently shooting an older Bear Grizzly (58" and 40# @ 28").
I am ready to find a new bow. With my draw length, do you all have any suggestions.
I want to draw 44 or 45# AT MY DRAW LENGTH.
Hoping to find a stable, quiet and comfortable hunting recurve.
Your input and suggestions are very appreciated.
Best regards, Skychief.
EDITED to say that I shoot 3-under and prefer a one piece bow.
I would look for a good used bow that is 62" long. 64" might be even better. If the riser is short you can get a 60". Are you thinking one piece or do you want a take-down? There are a bunch out the that will work for you. Good Luck in your quest!
Ron, Thanks for the reply.
I should have mentioned that I like one-piece bows.
Best regards, Skychief.
I shoot 30.5" draw. Surprised you get away with 58"- that would be a lot of finger pinch. I really like my 62" Black Widow SA and have a 64" Black tail. Be careful with your draw- even a typical production bow like a Martin could be labeled 45#@28 but it may draw 48#@28. Add your extra draw length and you could have more poundage than you think. I would seriously be thinking 62"+ bow with a 40#@28.
Thanks Dan.
I also should have mentioned that I shoot "3-under".
I wouldn't consider anything less than a 62" recurve... except for maybe the Black Widow PCH (60"). I shoot over a 32" draw and don't get much finger pinch with the PCH.. I have a 62" Pittsley Predator that does great also. 64" would be ideal if you want a good release with little finger pinch. The Black Widow PMA would be a great 64" bow. I also shoot a 62" Black Widow PTF (my favorite) and can get a good release with it. The longer bows will help alleviate finger pinch, producing a smoother release. The smoother the release, the more inherant accuracy you can achieve. I'm sure there are other bows that would suit your long DL, but these are what I have experience with at this time. Also, the design of the bow makes a difference. Not sure how, but you will be able to shoot some 62" bows and some will grip your fingers like a vise... creating poor releases. Don't short change yourself with a short bow as you will be fighting that finger pinch and won't develop to your full potential as an archer. I should shoot longer bows, but don't care for longer bows, so I accept a little unforgiveness in the release department.
I have 31" draw and I get away with a 62" bow, but my next one will be a 64" bow, so my recommendation is to get at least a 62" bow. Since I shoote split finger and 3-piece bows, I don't have a particular model for you. Only one piece bow I've shot lately that I like is Keith Chastains and some of the older Bear's are nice too.
I draw over 32" and shoot a 64" Black Widow PMA very comfortably.
At least 64 in. Blacktail makes a 66 which I have and is great... Many other companies do too...
Bob Lee, Wes Wallace and Black Widow all make really nice bows too that will fit your long draw well... I just like the Blacktail bows best.
I would try a 64 bob lee recurve I have (2) 62" recurve and longbow and I draw 29" and I love them both. I shot a 64 at ETAR last year and loved it, going this year to pick me one up. Just give JJ a call he will help you out and they have some good sales going on on their website. check them out
I shoot a 64" Schafer Silvertip and a 62" PSAX Black Widow with a 31" draw and love them!!
http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=103581;p=1
We built this 64" for this guy that has a 32" draw. he currently has 4 of our bows
I just picked up an RER XR 3-piece with static limb tips. This 60" bow is smooth as silk at my 29.5" draw. When those tips come vertical at full draw, it seems to flatten the draw curve and lessen the string angle. I'm sure it would handle 30" just as easily, but they make limbs all the way up to 62" or, I think, even 64". If you can get your hands on one to try (I know Greenville, MI is a bit of a drive) you sure ought to give it a test drive. Mine is definitely one of my keepers. I'm looking at a really nice 1-piece arroyo in the classifieds right now.
Ron
At my 29 1/2" draw length I was told to go long too, and went with a 45# @ 29.5", 66" Omega. Then I picked up a 52" Bear Kodiak Magnum, 45@28", specifically for groundblind hunting and I've had no problem with the transition or switching back and forth. Guess ignorance truly is bliss because if I'm getting any finger pinch I don't know it!
Blacktail, Wes Wallace, and Fox all make a recurve up to 66". I have owned all three and have no problem shooting them with my 30" draw.
All my TallTines are 60" and I have my clicker set t 30". Love them. I do have a 64" ordered next, just to see if I can improve on anything, but I doubt it.
I shoot a Wes Wallace Mentor, 64", 31" draw, with no finger pinch. You could go shorter length an be fine with it.
longrifle346, I must be even more ignorant than you. I had a 58" Lost Creek 48@28 r/d longbow that I shot really well. Finger pinch didn't bother me either, although at 29.5" it was definitely stacking up on me a bit - probably around 53#. I know it sure was handy and spit out a 2219 with about 225gr total up front like a rocket. In fact, I was SO ignorant I sold it thinking I was hurting the bow.
I have a long draw and am waiting on getting a CD made to post the pic's, since my PC is not accepting sd card from my camera to show off the new 60" Woodsmaster Mike made for me. Having shot HH longbows for many a years I decided to (after investigating for a while) get a Recurve that my budget could afford and handle my draw length. After getting the 60" Woodsmaster 50lbs @ 32" (I am just shy of 6'5") and shooting her I could not be happier. Do a search on here about any bow to investigate, but check Mike out at https://bruinbows.com/HOME_PAGE.html He is a sponsor here. Mike is truly down to earth and will spend some time with you on the phone. He prefers to to discuss your order on the phone to get all the details but that is a good thing. He is a very talented in making his Bows and a real good man, in my opinion anyway..
For a recurve i would recommend a 64" for a 30" draw. A 62" is going to be pushing the stacking point to close unless you get into a static tip or semi static.
If you are dead set on a shorter bow. I have a 60" Sasquatch hybrid long bow that draws to 32" with excellent string angle.
Here is one on the tree at 30"
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You might well consider a Wapiti recurve made by Keith Chastain in Colorado.
His bows are especially suitable for archers with long draw lengths as his limbs have an unusual profile that cause a "cam" effect as you draw back somewhat like the breakover of a compound bow. This eases the draw effort after about 27" of pull.
His bows are very smooth and fast.
http://www.worldclassbows.com/
Longer length will definitely have some advantages, but in my opinion there are plenty of shorter length recurves that will handle your drawlength just fine. As Kirk said, they will mostly have static tips. Give Kirk a call. He has alot of information to share and may help you make a decision.
I have a 30" draw and I just test drove the Rainy Day bows and would recommend them to you in a heartbeat.
It's all in the limbs....I shoot 29-1/2 and my new 60" SXT Zipper is smooth and doesn't stack. The carbon foam limbs are great. Love this bow! I was worried about the same thing and asked Bill about 62" limbs...he sent me some 60" to try as he has sold tons of them to long draw guys and they are what he said....Awesome!
I have a Sasquatch and would highly reccomend the bow that Kirk suggested.
If dead set on a onepiece recurve then I would personally consider the St Joe River bow or the RER static. All of those bows and bowyers are top notch and the bows have great reccomendations.
God bless you and good luck, Steve
Forgot to Mention I have a 64" Zipper, smooth out past 30".
There's a bunch of good ones out there. I have a 30" draw also, and the recurve I have been shooting for the last year is a Legands. They are also a sponser of this site. Smooth fast, no hand shock. Can't go wrong
I forgot to say it's not a one piece bow though. Sorry
I've shot both 64" and 66" recurves. Since I have a 30" draw length, I own two recurves and both of them are 66" Blacktail TDs.
I have a 62" BW psax that can be pulled with zero stack to 32". Very, Very smooth!!!
FYI most well made bows, even shorter ones will "handle" your 30 in draw. What you want is a bow you can handle well. I have a 30 in draw and have had shorter and longer recurves. 62, 64 and now a 66 recurve and the difference in the longer bow is very notable. It is smoother feeling, easier to point and hold accurately and just more stable throughout the shot process. End result: more fun and accurate shooting. I know this is just opinion but I do think it is supportable...
I've gotta Legend bows a plug here... I was finally able to get my hands on Mike's bows down ay WSR and he's a big dog drawing 31".
All of his designs draw nicely to longer draw lengths and i believe Rainy Day bows followed Mikes lead on that aspect.... :thumbsup:
Hey Sixby.... wait till you see my prototype 60" Sas RC i just completed. i got some pics on the tiller tree today. She came out semi static with XX carbon and no tip wedge at all. but when i added the tip overlays on the belly, i gained some good string angle and a wee bit more snap to her too. ;)
QuoteOriginally posted by Kirkll:
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Looks familiar.
There are several 62" bows out there that can be drawn WAY past 30" without stack. A 62" Predator recurve and 60" PCH are two I own and shoot at over a 32" draw without stacking. Finger pinch is another consideration. Even if you find a bow that doesn't stack up at your 30" draw, you want to be mindful of finger pinch... A detriment to a good release and accuracy.
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Silvertip TD , at 62" or 64". You will love it !
Damon Howat Hunter. 62" and 2.5 lbs an inch after 28".
Outstanding bows.
I would get the Black Widow PMA series in a 64" length.
QuoteOriginally posted by manitou1:
There are several 62" bows out there that can be drawn WAY past 30" without stack. A 62" Predator recurve and 60" PCH are two I own and shoot at over a 32" draw without stacking. Finger pinch is another consideration. Even if you find a bow that doesn't stack up at your 30" draw, you want to be mindful of finger pinch... A detriment to a good release and accuracy.
i believe you'll find that string the angle has a whole lot to do with where the stacking point is.
Once you got finger pinch going the bow is typically already stacking up on you.
Here are some pictures of the Bruin WoodsMaster 60" 50 lbs. @ 32" mentioned earlier Mike built for me that I have been shooting since a recieved her last month. I am real happy with her.
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I have always like shorter bows and have a long draw of close to 31". Believe it or not, I have a 56" Bighorn that is marked 68#@31 that Asbell made me around 1983, that I have no trouble drawing. I notice a little finger pinch a first, but after a few shots I no longer notice it. I have a 58" BW SAIII and a Saluki Ibex that I draw to 31".
"i believe you'll find that string the angle has a whole lot to do with where the stacking point is.
Once you got finger pinch going the bow is typically already stacking up on you".
KirkII, there ARE bows that draw smoothly, on a scale, past 30" with no stack. 2.5 lbs per inch. Those same bows can have finger pinch... I have shot them... and owned one that I sold. Although they didn't stack, they certainly DID pinch. Maybe not your bows, but they are out there.
Rick Welch practically had to beat a bow out of my hands to get me to go up in length because it drew so smooth. The finger pinch was pooping up my release though, so I succumbed to his efforts.
Yep short curves can go out in drawlength for sure. Our static curve limbs and the ACS-RC limbs easily will do 32 inches in a 60 inch bow.
But you are going to get pinch if you go short . ..period.
It is a a lot more comfortable to shoot a little longer bow that won't cut your fingers off.
Mike
I to have a 30" draw and I have only found two 60" recurves that work for me, Black Widow PSA or Great Plains SR swift. Otherwise stick with a 62" or longer.
Wingnut, I agree that you get a little more finger pinch, but I honestly don't notice that much of a difference between my 56" Bighorn and 64" ACS. There is a difference but you still have finger pressure with both. I think it comes down to an individual preference. Not wanting to argue at all. A person should shoot different bows and see what works for them.
QuoteOriginally posted by manitou1:
"i believe you'll find that string the angle has a whole lot to do with where the stacking point is.
Once you got finger pinch going the bow is typically already stacking up on you".
KirkII, there ARE bows that draw smoothly, on a scale, past 30" with no stack. 2.5 lbs per inch. Those same bows can have finger pinch... I have shot them... and owned one that I sold. Although they didn't stack, they certainly DID pinch. Maybe not your bows, but they are out there.
Rick Welch practically had to beat a bow out of my hands to get me to go up in length because it drew so smooth. The finger pinch was pooping up my release though, so I succumbed to his efforts.
Well i certainly can't argue with that reasoning. it just makes too much sense. I suppose a working recurve with soft tips would do it...
I guess I'll have to retract my statement there guys. i just haven't ran into one that draws smooth and has finger pinch issues yet.
I agree with buying the HOwatt Hunter if you are going with a one piece and want a super reasonably priced bow that will really perform. In the customs there are a lot of really good bows. Check out the list of Sponsers and you will find some of the best in the world.
If you decide to get a three piece be sure to check out the EagleWing Talon 11.
God bless you, Steve
Just put the 62 inch static recurve limbs on my RER LXR a few minutes ago and decided to check out static recurve threads...i think for me 62 inches is ideal for my roughly 30 inch draw...i do shoot a r/d longbow that is 58 inches quite effectively...it just starts to stack at 30 inches...i like shooting the RER a bit better with the 64 inch longbow limbs but i think i actually shoot that bow a bit better with the recurve limbs...i bought a really nice Howatt Hunter to become my ideal elk and moose bow and then have bought or traded for three other bows that i like better...of course i could have bought a dozen Hunters for what those other 3 cost...if i only had the Howatt i would still be a happy camper
I have a 30" draw.
I have a 62" RER XR recurve and a 64" RER LX longbow.
Both are 42#@28", super smooth and not a hint of stacking @ 30".
I love shooting both, but give a slight nod to the XR.
I would recommend 64"+. I personally shoot 2 66" bows, a '66 Bear, and an ILF model, split finger, but have and can shoot 3 under on them. Have shot 60" and 62" from a custom bowyer, and they drew nice, except that at my 30" draw, there was definately some stack and a lot of finger pinch.
As far as I know, no major manufacturer makes a 66", and you'd have to special order a 64" model. You will need to go to a custom bowyer to get what you're looking for in a 1 piece.
I have a 30" draw and I have found the Journeyman 62" Recurve to be smooth as butter with no edvidence of any stack at all. Good luck and let us know what you end up getting.
I have a 30" draw and shoot a 60" Stalker Recurves static Tracker, shoots great, 3 under, no pinch
my RER is marked 57 at 28 inches for both sets of limbs and they scale at about 61 at 30 inches...a little trick i use for checking draw length is to use a plastic tie wrap around the shaft at 30 inches and when the riser knocks the arrow sideways i quit the draw...i have given stack a lot of thought and i feel that stack is maybe more of an advantage than a disadvantage helping us to draw to a bit of a wall effect
i have a nice 60 Kodiak that draws 44 pounds at 30 inches and shoots great...it is part of a consecutive serial number pair that i own,,,i also have a left handed 60 Kodiak that draws about 60 pounds that i used for elk hunting last fall...i finally came to the conclusion that using nice original condition 60 Kodiaks for hunting may not be the smartest idea
I too have a true 30" draw and there are a few 60" bows I can shoot but the list is short. The two that top the list are Black Widow PSA and Great Plaie SR Swift.