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Title: self nock question
Post by: Sam McMichael on June 29, 2012, 09:43:00 PM
On a cedar or other wood shaft, how do you cut self nocks? I can't keep the cuts straight and even.  Is there a link somebody can point me to?
Thanks
Title: Re: self nock question
Post by: m midd on June 29, 2012, 10:10:00 PM
I use a jig something like the nifty nocker but
I can do 4 at a time
Title: Re: self nock question
Post by: macbow on June 29, 2012, 10:14:00 PM
Sam, a lot of guys use the 3 hacksaw blades taped together.
I use a ceramic tile sw blade TNT fits in a hacksaw.
Title: Re: self nock question
Post by: Grey Taylor on June 29, 2012, 10:22:00 PM
If you're cutting the nocks by hand then that tile saw blade rocks.
When you cut, if you frequently change sides of the shaft it will help you stay straight. For instance, start the cut on one side, do a few strokes of the saw, turn the shaft 180 degrees and do a few strokes on the other side. Alternate back and forth until the slot is fully cut.

Guy
Title: Re: self nock question
Post by: Fletcher on June 29, 2012, 10:41:00 PM
I cut mine with a 1/8 inch router bit.
Title: Re: self nock question
Post by: elkbreath on June 29, 2012, 10:56:00 PM
I use a Dremel
Title: Re: self nock question
Post by: Pat B on June 29, 2012, 11:20:00 PM
I use a single bandsaw cut and open up and shape the self nock with a thin blade knife and sandpaper folded over and over again until it fits the string.
Title: Re: self nock question
Post by: SCATTERSHOT on June 30, 2012, 10:25:00 AM
Pretty labor intensive, but I make my first cut with a single blade hacksaw, then open that up with a tile saw, and finally finish with a chainsaw file. If you work slowly and carefully with the initial cut, everything else will follow.

Good luck!  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/scattershot/IMGP0180.jpg)
Title: Re: self nock question
Post by: iohkus on June 30, 2012, 10:37:00 AM
Those are nice looking nocks SCATTERSHOT, what do you use to wrap 'em with?
                             Will
Title: Re: self nock question
Post by: Pat B on June 30, 2012, 11:38:00 AM
Strong, thin thread set in glue will work to wrap below the nock but real sinew works best.
 I chew a strand of back sinew, wrap it and let it dry. Your saliva and the sinew will make its own glue. When dry I seal with pitch varnish, TBIII or super glue.
Title: Re: self nock question
Post by: Sam McMichael on June 30, 2012, 12:07:00 PM
Thanks for the tips, guys. Now let's see if advice can be converted into functionality.
Title: Re: self nock question
Post by: iohkus on June 30, 2012, 12:53:00 PM
Question: If hardwood footings are used, is wraping still necessary, especially in bamboo?
Title: Re: self nock question
Post by: Pat B on June 30, 2012, 02:08:00 PM
I use a wrap on self nocks but not necessarily on splined (reenforced) self nocks, no matter if it is cane, cedar or hardwood, shoots or dowels.
 The 2 on the left are black walnut dowel arrows, then a sourwood shoot arrow and a hill cane arrow, all with sinew wraps below the self nock...
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/BWandsourwoodarrowsfor2011elkhunt002.jpg)

these are cedar shafts with rawhide splined self nocks and sinew wrap...
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/spinetester008.jpg)

these are fully tapered ash shafts with osage spined self nocks and sinew wrap...
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/taperedasharrows002.jpg)

these are hill cane arrows with self nocks and sinew wrap...
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/Hillcanearrows09004.jpg)


...and then you have these hill cane arrows Art Butner made for me with maple footed self nocks and maple point footing...
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/Artshillcanearrows008-1.jpg)
  the cane is wrapped with thread set in superglue below the nock but the point footing is not. Note the color difference in the cane and maple footing. This joint is a long taper. I've only broke one of the footings loose when I hit a rock hard. Been shooting these arrows for 5 or 6 years now...
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/Artshillcanearrows009.jpg)
Title: Re: self nock question
Post by: Brently on June 30, 2012, 08:44:00 PM
I make my first cut with a exacto razor saw then I use a tile saw to make the wider cut.  I use hardwood inserts and use the same procedure for that cut also.  I then use a emery board and a small file then finish it up with sandpaper.
Title: Re: self nock question
Post by: SCATTERSHOT on July 01, 2012, 10:48:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by iohkus:
Those are nice looking nocks SCATTERSHOT, what do you use to wrap 'em with?
                             Will
Thanks. That is wrapped with unwaxed dental floss.
Title: Re: self nock question
Post by: Craig on July 01, 2012, 09:40:00 PM
Three hacksaw blades and sandpaper. Real sinew

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/Cbireley/Untitled-1.jpg)