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Title: arrow flight help
Post by: TexasStick81 on June 27, 2012, 09:24:00 PM
I have been a backyard shooter for awhile and we were blessed to move into a new house with a bigger back yard.  Whereas I could only shoot 12 yards before, I can now shoot 25-30 yards and I've noticed an arrow flight problem.  At 15 yards it's not noticible but at 25 yards my arrows are making a single counter clockwise loop.  I'm shooting a Horne flintquest 50@28 60" TD with an AD trad lite, 4x4 RW slight helical arrow with a 250 head for a 635 total arrow.  I'm actually shooting nice groups at that range and pretty much on target but I can see the rather large loop on the way down to target.  Here is the strange thing, I have 2 strings made exactly the same (endless loop dynaflight 12 count) that I notice the arrow flight with but when I put the original flemish on it that came with the bow, no silencers but all else equal with the other strings (brace height and nock point), the arrows fly true.  Is it possible for the string design to be causing this?  Thanks in advance.

Zane
Title: Re: arrow flight help
Post by: Scott J. Williams on June 27, 2012, 09:53:00 PM
It could be a number of things, however it sounds to me as if the nocks are too tight.  Check and see if the nocks are a little tight.

I have sanded knocks on strings that are too tight. You should be able to tap the sting to dislodge the arrow when the nock has the right amount of pressure. Give that a try first.  Let me know, I would be very interested.
Title: Re: arrow flight help
Post by: TexasStick81 on June 27, 2012, 09:58:00 PM
It's a very light snap, very light.  I actually had one of the strings reserved.  I think the nock pressure is correct.
Title: Re: arrow flight help
Post by: on June 27, 2012, 11:12:00 PM
Strings can make a difference! Differnt string material and different number of strands all make a difference in your tune. Once I find a "recipe" that works, I do not change anything.

Bisch
Title: Re: arrow flight help
Post by: Lashbow on June 27, 2012, 11:44:00 PM
Is nock to string tightness a really big issue?
I have not noticed it before but my nocks are quite tight

Lash
Title: Re: arrow flight help
Post by: TexasStick81 on June 28, 2012, 06:33:00 AM
I thought I had the right "recipe" for some time but I guess it's back to the drawing board.  I'm going to order a new Flemish string and see how it works.
Title: Re: arrow flight help
Post by: ChrisM on June 28, 2012, 07:41:00 AM
You may be just a tad overspined.  How do broadheads shoot?
Title: Re: arrow flight help
Post by: on June 28, 2012, 08:52:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Texasrecurve81:
I thought I had the right "recipe" for some time but I guess it's back to the drawing board.  I'm going to order a new Flemish string and see how it works.
Just getting another flemish string may or may not do the trick. You need to find out what the string that works well is made out of and how many strands it has and duplicate that string.

Bisch
Title: Re: arrow flight help
Post by: TexasStick81 on June 28, 2012, 09:11:00 AM
It was the one Mark had for the bow so I need to just give him a call.
Title: Re: arrow flight help
Post by: huntin_sparty on June 28, 2012, 09:17:00 AM
Z
How long are your AD trad lites? I shoot almost the exact arrow except they are the HH AD hammerhead lites.  I was thinking nock or too much spine too but sounds like you checked that already.  I notice a lot of movement when I have a bad release.  Is your motion every shot or so often? BTW love the thunderchild wish it were a few #s heavier.
Thanks
A
Title: Re: arrow flight help
Post by: TexasStick81 on June 28, 2012, 12:58:00 PM
Hey there. Glad you're liking the TC, it is beautiful.  My trad lites are 31.5".  I've been using these arrows for some time and notice virtually no different with them depending on point weight even with no fletching.  I no my form isn't perfect but it seems to be a very consistent difference between the strings (wobble vs straight) and consistent flight while using the same string (they either all wobble or none do).  I just didn't think a string could cause that much difference, guess I was wrong.
Title: Re: arrow flight help
Post by: huntin_sparty on June 28, 2012, 01:10:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Texasrecurve81:
Hey there. Glad you're liking the TC, it is beautiful.  My trad lites are 31.5".  I've been using these arrows for some time and notice virtually no different with them depending on point weight even with no fletching.  I no my form isn't perfect but it seems to be a very consistent difference between the strings (wobble vs straight) and consistent flight while using the same string (they either all wobble or none do).  I just didn't think a string could cause that much difference, guess I was wrong.
Thats crazy I wouldnt think the string made that much a difference.  That length and front weight shouldnt be a problem with spine!  good luck
Title: Re: arrow flight help
Post by: riverrat 2 on June 28, 2012, 05:56:00 PM
Bingo Bisch. I went through he!! trying to figure out a tuning issue with one my Centaurs. Put a D97 14 strand in place of a 8 strand "skinny" string. Corrected. Flight was high,and to the right,plus I had trouble getting rid of the skinny string on release. Which was leading to a whole other set of issues,target panic being one of them. But now,I don't even think about shooting that bow hardly. Nice tight groups downrange to boot. Strings can be MAJOR PROBLEM causers!! and very easily overlooked.
Title: Re: arrow flight help
Post by: The Whittler on June 28, 2012, 09:08:00 PM
I know this may sound weird but when I shoot with a different color cock feather (then the 2 hen feathers), the arrow looks like it is flipping as it goes down range. Just a thought.
Title: Re: arrow flight help
Post by: TexasStick81 on June 28, 2012, 10:05:00 PM
I have 4 fletch and they're all white so I don't that's it.  I've been shooting the other string and the flight is much improved.  Now I just keep watching the arrow instead of picking a spot:)