I shoot woodies for years now. Still, I am a little jealous on those who are shooting carbon. The stay straight, never break, and weigh all the same.
So I gave it a try. Made some carbons for my bow. Bareshafted them to perfection, the same as I do with my woodies.
I compared.
For me, wood shoots more accurate and feels more natural then carbon. It is hard to describe, but for me wood just feels good. The further the distance, the more obvious it got. With wood I can hit a target at 50 yards with ease. I even destroyed a nock at 50 yards. I can forget that with carbon.
I tried for a week, but no progres.
I guess I'm just not a carbon-man..... it's woodies all the way for me.....
Anybody out there with the same feelings?
I have been shooting wood now for over a year.So I,m still new at it,but to me they are quiet in my hill bows.Shoot the same as carbons but mean more to me because I made them my self.Harvested a nice fat doe last fall with a ash arrow that I made.Killed deer with carbons but just not the same.Woodies are my true choice,and wood arrows and longbows go together.
I have tried carbon and aluminum and they shoot great-as does wood.
I love working with wood- just feels right-and I have a boatload of old shafts stashed away. :archer2: :archer2:
I've found that while it is a bit easier to get carbons functinally close and plenty accurate with a center shot recurve/longbow, it's harder to get them exactly right, and totally unthinkable out of a non centershot selfbow (which I prefer and use most). Woods take me a bit more tinkering, but I can get them exactly right, and can get them to work out of a selfbow. And they are just prettier and softer to my eye. There's a place for both, but I shoot more woods than carbons.
My experience is that carbons magnify any human errors with the form or release. Wood on the other hand, seems to absorb those imperfections. Therefore, I am more accurate with wood and will accept the fact that they may not be as durable as carbon.
CERTAIN targets I prefer aluminum due to not losing points in the bag , as I do with wood. Shooting woods into frozen bales of excelsior in the winter is not fun so I use aluminum for that . I have shot carbons many times Mad hundreds of them for people but CONTINUE to go back to wood its the best .
My experience is exactly the opposite. I can get carbons shooting well enough that I won't shoot more than two or three in a group to minimize the number destroyed from robin hoods. Woodies, I've never been able to get that close. There's always a few that just won't group.
Ain't it great to have options? Everyone can find something that does exactly the job they want done.
I prefer wood but it's hard to pass up the benefits of carbon. I have currently settled on shooting both so I can quit deciding between the two. I won't run out of wood because I always buy more, don't know if I'd buy more carbon once I run out (and it would (wood - ha!) be awhile yet)
Currently getting carbons flying real well out off my Hill style Dave Johnson bow. I have a wood test kit from magnus heading my way. Then the madness will be even more intense :D
I want good wood flight out of that bow. It's gonna take me some more tinkering, but I see and end to the madness at some point....hopefully.
Do they really make arrows out of something other than wood?
I tried carbon, but they just didn't "feel good" out of my Hill bows. Same thing with aluminum, even though I did shoot it for several years.
I think the performance of wood has been just fine, and I like the traditional aspect, especially out of a longbow. I'm an old fart, and I just like old ways.
I know what you mean . Ive tried carbon numerous times with the same results. I keep going back to wood. I have really taken a liking to heavy aluminums though.
Im with you Dutchman, Ive tried carbons, aluminums, fiber glass, but nothing suits me as well as woods.
I'm just the opposite! I love my carbons. I got so frustrated with the wood arrows that I threw all I had in a fire pit at a tournament in January of this year and have not looked back.
To each his own, I guess. That is whay they make all the different kinds.....so that all can have something that works well for them.
Did this this afternoon at 20yds with my carbons:
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Don't think I have ever come close with wood arrows.
Bisch
I'm with you FD,for me nothing feels or flys like wood.Iv' tried carbon and allum, can't shoot them as
well
Wood for me, wood bow- wood arrows
as wood. Too me WOOD IS GOOD- LOVE THAT POC
Wood, aluminum, carbon. An arrow is an arrow for me :-)
Use them all .
I switched to wood arrows about 4 months ago and haven't shot a carbon since. Not against them, I just like the way the woodies fly and feel out of my bows.
So, I passed my carbons on to my son and he just had them cut to his length tonight.
I really like the way wood "feels" and sounds off the bow, but shoot carbons too.
I'm a died in the wool carbon shaft fan for accuracy. They are either dead straight or broken.
Granted.... they take a bit more patience to get matched up to your bow, but they darn hard to beat in toughness and consistency.
But..... There are times when ya just gotta shoot natural shafts...
I just had a fine gentleman put a dozen really fine Tonkin bamboo shafts in my hands today.... :bigsmyl:
i'm looking forward to tuning a few of these to my long bow and going stumping with em on Sunday. Nothing like shooting stumps to see what an arrow is made of.... The word is about these cane shafts is they recover much quicker than doug fir or cedar shafts, and they are tough as any hardwood shaft out there, but lighter weight. They have a full length taper and are running about 80 lb spine at only 5/16" diameter..... THAT is impressive in itself. these things are 34" long too. :eek: he weight matched these for me to +or- 2.5 grains.... that's darn near as close as carbon.
I'll let ya know what i think of these bad boys... Kirk
Kirk,
those tonkin cane shafts sounds interesting! Pse let us know what your findings are!
I shooth Sitka Spruce and I am impressed with those too!
I like the look of a matched set of painted up woodies....
Butt...For years now I shoot only Legacy 2016.
Like Charlie said in a previous post, they are the same no matter when ya buy them....
Fletch them, cut them to length and add the 125 to the front....Good to go.
Wood is good! Been building my own for about 25 years. Besides, douglas fir is a renewable resource.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v117/treekiller/bows%20and%20arrows/scottsarrows7.jpg)
Those are really sharp, TK. :eek: I love the copper dyed barrs. :thumbsup:
Well i bare shafted some today and will be fletching up a half dozen this evening..... These things snap back in recovery like a carbon shaft. I was impressed. :thumbsup: I think I'm going to like these.
We'll see how they take a good thrashing shooting stumps tomorrow. I'll take my camera with me. Kirk
great looking arra's treekiller. :thumbsup:
wood for me, they are stout quiet and just feel right. I have shot several different kinds of shafts and some were just more consistent, wood just felt like the right thing for me. When they are all dressed up they sure are pretty !
QuoteOriginally posted by Fletcher:
Those are really sharp, TK. :eek: I love the copper dyed barrs. :thumbsup:
Thanks Rick and Alvey!
Been dying quite a few barred primaries recently...just getting ready to dye some green for a new set I'm building.
BTW...the four arrows on the left were fletched with wild goose for hunting in wet Northwest weather.
I like all arrow types myself... They all have their place in archery and/or hunting. Just something about deer hunting with wood, feels right to me... The thought of a close in shot and a broken arrow with blood on it gets my heart pounding.
... mike ...
As PO'd as I am with myself for breaking 2 of my woodies in as many days, and all the repairs I needed to make on the remaining ones, I'm still sticking with them....
I shot and made my own wood arrows for years, then shot aluminum 2317's for a few more years because they were the only thing I could get to fly decent out of my heavy weight recurve (those were before carbons came on the market) and then last year I made, shot and hunted with a dozen carbons. I like the consistency of the carbons, but something was missing. Maybe I'm just getting sentimental in my old age, but wood arrows and longbows just go hand in hand. So tomorrow I'm ordering two dozen Douglas Fir shafts from either Hildebrand or Surewood.
Oh, one reason I switched to carbons is because I thought they would last me longer than a dozen woodies. I stump shoot a lot so out of a dozen woodies, I usually break or lose about half of them in a season of hard abuse. Last year, I did all my stump shooting with the carbons. At the end of the season, I only had 6 left. Go figure.
IF a person can match a set of wood they will be the best.
VERY hard to match them up now days.