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Title: Static Tip Curve, What is your pick?
Post by: Gen273 on June 21, 2012, 10:36:00 AM
Tell me in your opinion what is the best Static Tip Recurve.
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Post by: owlbait on June 21, 2012, 10:40:00 AM
I like my Stalker Static Tip limbs by South Cox. Very smooth, quiet, excellent workmanship. Fairly short delivery time, great bowyer/person to work with.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: arrowslinger22 on June 21, 2012, 10:45:00 AM
RER bows, can't beat them.
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Post by: riverrat 2 on June 21, 2012, 10:46:00 AM
I have shot a Dryad ILF system,an RER Arroyo,and I currently own a Chastain Wapiti. For me the RER,and the Dryad were faster than the Wap' but that Wapiti is such a smooth drawing/shooting bow that just loves a heavy arrow. It is my favorite thus far. rat'
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Post by: ron w on June 21, 2012, 10:52:00 AM
I had a RER for 5-6 years and it was excellent. I now have a 17" Zipper ILF that I got a set of Dryad Static tip recurve limbs for that are even better, smooth ,silent and darn quick for the poundage. I just sold the RER. I'd like to try one by South Cox sometime also a  Jack Kemph. I had one of Jacks bow but it was not a Static tip.
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Post by: Raging Water on June 21, 2012, 11:03:00 AM
I have an awesome Pouland. Cross between a Kempf Static tip recurve and a Saluki!  I will post some pictures.

Matt
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Post by: Over&Under on June 21, 2012, 11:03:00 AM
RER Hands Down!

The XR is Supurb - Kevin really has the static design nailed down.

Would love to try the Dryad and Stalker statics...had an Orion static once and it was very fast!
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Post by: Raging Water on June 21, 2012, 11:07:00 AM
No disrespect to oher Bowyers but, the late John Fazio made the most awesome Static Tipped bows.

The Ballistic Static Tipped Recurve produced an honest 215 FPS with a 10 GPP arrow.

Matt
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Post by: NormanDale33 on June 21, 2012, 11:10:00 AM
I can't wait to see the pics you have of the Pouland Matt. You really have some cool bows between the Saluki's, Harrisons, etc.
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Post by: pitt98 on June 21, 2012, 12:21:00 PM
I have an RER, Kwyk Styk, and Talon II.  I love all three, and most likely won't part with any.  If I had to choose, the Talon II edges each in every category.  It likes a shorter brace height giving it a longer power stroke, and is more quiet.  My RER and Kwyk Styk like brace heights between 7 3/4 and 8".  The Talon II, for me, is at 7 1/4" (which is actually the upper end of brace height recommendation).  
Ultimately, it seems to be quicker, more quiet, and draws as smooth as any bow you'll find.  And the fit/finish of the bow is unsurpassed.  I love my RER and Kwyk Styk, but the Talon II, in my opinion, slightly edges them out.
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Post by: Raging Water on June 21, 2012, 12:43:00 PM
Here is my Pouland. I got it for my Son. Too, light for me.

60" 49# at 28". I will have it in the classifieds Sunday night.

It is a cross between a Saluki and a Kempf. At 49#, the static tips fire and arrow like a 60# regular tip. I ain't kidding!

Matt

   (http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/hemdell/Pouland/image1.jpg)     (http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/hemdell/Pouland/2012-06-02_21-57-35_619.jpg)     (http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/hemdell/Pouland/2012-06-02_21-57-22_845.jpg)     (http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/hemdell/Pouland/2012-06-02_21-46-40_586.jpg)     (http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/hemdell/Pouland/2012-06-02_21-46-54_877.jpg)
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Post by: Bladepeek on June 21, 2012, 12:47:00 PM
The RER static tip that I just picked up last night, and which is my only static tip so far obviously has to be my favorite   :D
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Post by: elkbreath on June 21, 2012, 01:29:00 PM
Matt, you have mail.  :-)

I'm hoping to be shooting that pouland soon, gorgeous bow...

On the flip side, the best I have shot to date is my saluki Ibex, 67@28 drawn just short of 30".  That my friends is an awesome bow.  My dad said its the only one of my bows he's shot that made him consider taking of the training wheels.  It is my all time 'wish I hadn't sold it" bow.   :banghead:  

 Dan
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Post by: Bear Heart on June 21, 2012, 02:18:00 PM
My sovereign ballistik by John Fazio is the best I've ever shot.  Don't know who could match it.
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Post by: Flying Dutchman on June 21, 2012, 02:42:00 PM
I shot only one: The Talon II. All I can say it was an impressive bow. Very fast, smooth and precise. I was shooting tight groups with it as if I had been shooting this bow for years!
Title: Re: Static Tip Curve, What is your pick?
Post by: hybridbow hunter on June 21, 2012, 03:32:00 PM
RER !!


Vital model with black limba limbs


   (http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/DSC00261.jpg)

(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/DSC00277.jpg)

Or XR

   (http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/ambiance.jpg)


About speed? enough for me...      :goldtooth:      

Vital , limbs are plain black fiberglass/bamboo 64# @ 31", i draw 31,5" and arrow is 803 gr: (GT kinetic 200 full length+HIT 100 gr brass insert + 300 gr point)

   (http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/photo1-14.jpg)
Title: Re: Static Tip Curve, What is your pick?
Post by: elkbreath on June 21, 2012, 03:42:00 PM
64# shooting an 803 gr arrow at 180 fps??? wow!

my super ghost is 81# at nearly 30, I shoot 800 gr arrows and get 186 fps more or less.  your bow is a rocket launcher!  Not to mention absolutely gorgeous.
Title: Re: Static Tip Curve, What is your pick?
Post by: LITTLEBIGMAN on June 21, 2012, 03:50:00 PM
raging waters that is one cool looking stick does that bowyer have a web site?
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Post by: Raging Water on June 21, 2012, 03:58:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by LITTLEBIGMAN:
raging waters that is one cool looking stick does that bowyer have a web site?
Nope, he is retired and makes a few Hill Style bows a year. Sells them to local folks where he lives.

Matt
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Post by: hybridbow hunter on June 21, 2012, 03:59:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by elkbreath:
64# shooting an 803 gr arrow at 180 fps??? wow!

my super ghost is 81# at nearly 30, I shoot 800 gr arrows and get 186 fps more or less.  your bow is a rocket launcher!  Not to mention absolutely gorgeous.
At my full draw the bow is close to 66# and my release is rather clean, but yes it is really a fast bow for a glass bow. The fastest fiberglass bow i measured, and silencers-on & braced for hunting @ 8 1/8" !!
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Post by: bowgy on June 21, 2012, 05:11:00 PM
Jim Belcher patriot is a great bow I like the rer also.
Title: Re: Static Tip Curve, What is your pick?
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on June 21, 2012, 05:55:00 PM
I really like my Stalker from South Cox.

 (http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_0632.jpg)

You can check out this link if you want additional info.

http://strictlysticks.com/2012/04/13/dynamic-or-static-stalker/
Title: Re: Static Tip Curve, What is your pick?
Post by: Jmatt1957 on June 21, 2012, 05:56:00 PM
Im with riverrat the Chastain Wapiti is the one.
Title: Re: Static Tip Curve, What is your pick?
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on June 21, 2012, 05:56:00 PM
Troy's Static Stalker

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/static2.jpg)
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Post by: Lee Viv on June 21, 2012, 09:45:00 PM
I love my Sheepeater Spirit recurve made for me by Brent Rudolph and Mark Baker...I think Dryad now makes them for Brent....not quite the same as mine..but they are fast, quiet, and at 47" a perfect ground blind bow.....

(http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy355/fotoguy58/IMG_0443-1r.jpg)
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Post by: youngarcher1 on June 21, 2012, 09:52:00 PM
I'm going to have to say my RER XR, especially when I just sent kevin an email about adding a new one to the stable    :jumper:
Title: Re: Static Tip Curve, What is your pick?
Post by: Raging Water on June 21, 2012, 10:03:00 PM
Would a Saluki with Syias be considered a Static Tipped bow?

Matt
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Post by: Sixby on June 21, 2012, 10:22:00 PM
This is the EAgleWing Talon 11 in a top mounted limb/. It is the same limb with same brace and same speed and attributes as the belly mount limb./ Both brace at 7 1/4 inch and both shoot same and have same draw force curve/
(http://eaglewingarchery.i8.com/images/moss/mosst2tm-23.jpg)
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Post by: Sixby on June 21, 2012, 10:28:00 PM
(http://eaglewingarchery.i8.com/images/moss/mosst2tm-14.jpg)
God bless you all, Steve
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Post by: Gen273 on June 22, 2012, 12:29:00 AM
Wow, Sixby

I sure like the looks of the talon with front mounted limbs!!
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Post by: elkbreath on June 22, 2012, 12:37:00 AM
Matt, Id definitely say yes.  That style takes advantage of the static type Idea through leverage.  Its more static tip than anything!  IMO   :)

Sixby, that is one good looking bow.
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Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on June 22, 2012, 12:54:00 AM
Eagle Wing Talon is hands down my favorite.

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Eagle%20Wing%20Tallon/SANY0024.jpg)

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Eagle%20Wing%20Tallon/SANY0020.jpg)

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Eagle%20Wing%20Tallon/SANY0034.jpg)

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Eagle%20Wing%20Tallon/SANY0037.jpg)

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Eagle%20Wing%20Tallon/SANY0041.jpg)

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Eagle%20Wing%20Tallon/SANY0018.jpg)
Title: Re: Static Tip Curve, What is your pick?
Post by: bowslinger on June 22, 2012, 02:50:00 AM
Anyone shooting the older static tip Bears?  How do they compare to newer bows?
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Post by: kat on June 22, 2012, 10:04:00 AM
RER for me. VERY fast.
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Post by: reddogge on June 22, 2012, 10:06:00 AM
I have a set of ILF Dryad Epic bamboo limbs and they are fast and quiet. I do like them.
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Post by: Raging Water on June 22, 2012, 10:10:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Raging Water:
Here is my Pouland. I got it for my Son. Too, light for me.

60" 49# at 28". Thinking about selling it. Again, too light for this knuckle dragger.

It is a cross between a Saluki and a Kempf. At 49#, the static tips fire and arrow like a 60# regular tip. I ain't kidding!

Matt
     (http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/hemdell/Pouland/image1.jpg)       (http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/hemdell/Pouland/2012-06-02_21-57-35_619.jpg)       (http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/hemdell/Pouland/2012-06-02_21-57-22_845.jpg)       (http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/hemdell/Pouland/2012-06-02_21-46-40_586.jpg)       (http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/hemdell/Pouland/2012-06-02_21-46-54_877.jpg)
Gents, I have decided to sell. It will be in Sunday' Nights Classifieds.

Matt
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Post by: Gen273 on June 22, 2012, 10:21:00 AM
:campfire:
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Post by: deaddoc4444 on June 22, 2012, 10:39:00 AM
X2  from Pitt98
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Post by: Gen273 on June 22, 2012, 02:49:00 PM
I am surprised that that are not more Kwyk Styk fans out there.
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Post by: xtrema312 on June 22, 2012, 03:02:00 PM
I have shot a few. Dryad is my pick. I would like a ILF set.  Just need to find a riser I really like. The RER is nice also and I like there riser a lot.
Title: Re: Static Tip Curve, What is your pick?
Post by: Gen273 on June 22, 2012, 03:09:00 PM
Xtrema, Check out the Zipper IFL riser.
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Post by: sawtoothscream on June 22, 2012, 03:09:00 PM
I want a set of dryads for my titan, just need to save up for awhile  :(    hear great things about those limbs
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Post by: Gator1 on June 22, 2012, 03:13:00 PM
My choice would be the RER.. Fantastic Static TIp design.
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Post by: boxh on June 22, 2012, 03:21:00 PM
I'm with Bear Heart, my Ballistik is the smoothest,
fastest bow I have. And I have too many! If it wasn't one of the heaviest bows I have, it would be the only bow I would hunt with.
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Post by: Sixby on June 22, 2012, 07:12:00 PM
I know someone that can build light , static bows (
Grin)

God bless you all, Steve
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Post by: AdAstraAiroh on June 22, 2012, 07:23:00 PM
My recommendation for a static recurve would be the Dryad ACS-RC ILF limbs. I received a pair one week ago, and their stability, forgiveness, accuracy and performance (speed) were way beyond my expectations.

Mark
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Post by: Sirius Black on June 22, 2012, 08:16:00 PM
I haven't shot many trad bows, but my RER is very nice.
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Post by: Justin Falon on June 22, 2012, 08:21:00 PM
hey you guys forgot about me!

Texas recurve Comanche all the way!!!!!

justin
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Post by: kbetts on June 22, 2012, 09:37:00 PM
Where was this a month ago when I was trying to get rid of some Dryad ILF limbs?  The gent that bought them seems very happy.  Definitely smooth, just not a longbow.
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Post by: BSBD on June 22, 2012, 11:44:00 PM
Definitely a Saluki for me, they get better every year and my 04', 06' and 08' Saluki's weren't exactly slow. My 2011 Ibex is faster than any bow I've shot including Ballistik's, RER's, or any other bow without wheels. I don't think it will hit 215 fps at 10 gpp drawn to 28" with fingers though.

Lukas builds great bows but you don't see him promoting himself on the internet like some people. His wait is long enough without the promotion.
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Post by: ozy clint on June 23, 2012, 06:15:00 AM
aren't the border black douglas static recurves?
any one got experience to share on them. it would be my next bow if i had the money
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Post by: 187BOWHUNTER on June 23, 2012, 11:06:00 AM
I love my Stalker Custom Recurves static Tracker, its just a badass bow !
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Post by: hybridbow hunter on June 23, 2012, 12:18:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by BSBD:
Definitely a Saluki for me, they get better every year and my 04', 06' and 08' Saluki's weren't exactly slow. My 2011 Ibex is faster than any bow I've shot including Ballistik's, RER's, or any other bow without wheels. I don't think it will hit 215 fps at 10 gpp drawn to 28" with fingers though.

Lukas builds great bows but you don't see him promoting himself on the internet like some people. His wait is long enough without the promotion.
215 fps @ 28" & 10 gpp: that stick bow doesn't exist yet and most probably not for the coming years...
There is a lot of mythology about the speed of those asian style bows: Ibex and Turk (fiberglass) models i chronoed were in the 175 fps range for 10 ,gpp under shooting machine, without silencers on string, which is rather in the medium-low average speed for most fiberglass recurve on the market. Though for people who likes this style of bows, they are fine bows.
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Post by: Raging Water on June 23, 2012, 01:26:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by hybridbow hunter:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by BSBD:
Definitely a Saluki for me, they get better every year and my 04', 06' and 08' Saluki's weren't exactly slow. My 2011 Ibex is faster than any bow I've shot including Ballistik's, RER's, or any other bow without wheels. I don't think it will hit 215 fps at 10 gpp drawn to 28" with fingers though.

Lukas builds great bows but you don't see him promoting
himself on the internet like some people. His wait is long enough without the promotion.
215 fps @ 28" & 10 gpp: that stick bow doesn't exist yet and most probably not for the coming years...
There is a lot of mythology about the speed of those asian style bows: Ibex and Turk (fiberglass) models i chronoed were in the 175 fps range for 10 ,gpp under shooting machine, without silencers on string, which is rather in the medium-low average speed for most fiberglass recurve on the market. Though for people who likes this style of bows, they are fine bows. [/b]
I think, and will find out, that Saluki's have been chronoed at 230 FPS. Let me do my research.

My 82# at 28" Ballistick was chronoed by John Fazio, himeself, at 215 FPS with a 10 GPP arrow. Unfortunately, John has passed away. So, I may have a hard time backing that statement up, without "Re-chronoing" it. (how do you like that made up word?)

Matt
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Post by: Raging Water on June 23, 2012, 01:28:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by ozy clint:
aren't the border black douglas static recurves?
any one got experience to share on them. it would be my next bow if i had the money
I had one. Freakishly fast and accurate. But, a high wrist and I am a low dished grip guy. So, I sold it. If you like med to high wrist, it would be hard to beat one.

FYI, if you are serious, I know where two BBDs are for a modest price. PM me for details.

Matt
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Post by: hybridbow hunter on June 23, 2012, 04:15:00 PM
Raging Water,
with an accurate and precise chrono, accurate weighting of the bow and the arrow, the numbers you give at 28" draw AMO and 10 gpp cannot exist with any stick bow on the market today. It is just physics and i can do the math very easily for you...as KE of the shot arrow= Dynamic Efficiency X Store Energy you would need something in the 90+ % DE and 114 % store energy. That stickbow made of fiberglass (or whatever...) just doesn't exist today   :dunno:  

and 230 fps for 10 gpp @ 28" draw length is just ridiculous as even with the fastest compound bow 350 fps (IBO) you will not get that speed
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Post by: Steelhead on June 23, 2012, 04:49:00 PM
I believe Ballistic quoted thier 215 fps rating at 30 inches draw and 540 grains out of a 60# bow?

That was an AMO standard test back in the day and may still be?

Not saying the test Mr. Fazio may have done  was accurate or beyond reproach.Thats how remember the parameters though.I could be wrong as its been awhile since I read the statements he posted in adds years ago.

The Palouse,Texas Camanche allready mentioned,Red Chavez recurve,Stillwater and Javaman Assyrian are nice static tipped recurves that have the Bear Grumley style tips.That are very beautiful.I dont think thier speed deamons but thier nice and and very aesthetically pleasing to the eye and show off the bowyers art nicely.Jim Belcher made one in this style as well modeled after the Grumsley bow

Someone mentioned the Border Black Douglas.I dont know if its a static tip?It has very long and radical sweeping hooks that look like they may work more than a true static tip.They are certainly very fast though.

I have found the Saluki Ibex to be very fast indeed.A well known bowyer who has tested many many bows.Told me it was the 3rd fastest bow he ever tested.This was about 5 years ago though.I have owned 3 of them and was always impressed with the flat arrow trajectory personally.
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Post by: L. Bullington on June 23, 2012, 06:27:00 PM
I have shot a Sheepeater Spirit. very fast and smooth. One to look at anyway.

Lucas
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Post by: Yellow Dog on June 23, 2012, 07:25:00 PM
RER and Jack Kempf. Smooth and quiet.
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Post by: doubleo on June 23, 2012, 07:38:00 PM
I have a RER Arroyo 54" that i use for turkey hunting out of my blind. Sweet bow! My son had a Dryad Epic ILF another sweet bow.
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Post by: Ydanny on June 23, 2012, 08:05:00 PM
I currently have a RER XR, an Eaglewing Talon II, and a Stalker Static.  I have owned a static Kempf KS and a Dryad Epic ILF.  All are super bows but to me the RER XR is a level above with the Stalker Static right there also.
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Post by: Peckerwood on June 23, 2012, 09:33:00 PM
Static tip bows are my favorite recurve. I have owned or shot Dryad , Ballistik , RER , and Border. They were all nice shooters. I am currently enjoying a set of Border Hex 6 limbs. The Border limbs are in a class all of their own. They actually loose lbs./ in. of draw between 27 - 30 in. Real SMOOOOOTH.
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Post by: Raging Water on June 23, 2012, 09:59:00 PM
Here is one tip on my Saluki Turk.

 (http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/hemdell/Fun%20Shoot%20and%20Saluki%20Turk%20and%20First%20Shot/salukilimbtip.jpg)

Here is the Bow, Strung.

 (http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/hemdell/Fun%20Shoot%20and%20Saluki%20Turk%20and%20First%20Shot/saluki.jpg)
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Post by: amar911 on June 25, 2012, 03:34:00 AM
Brackenbury Peerless!!!

Allan
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Post by: Johnny A. on June 25, 2012, 07:38:00 AM
RER Arroyo smooth,quiet and fast, great bows  :)
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Post by: steadman on June 25, 2012, 09:23:00 AM
The new Stalker static is a wonderful bow!
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Post by: LongbowArchitect on June 25, 2012, 11:32:00 AM
I was able to test shoot a Stalker static at the CTAS High Country Shoot over the weekend.  I was totally amazed at how fast it shot (compared to my bow), smooth and quiet.  Also workmanship was top notch.  I may be ordering one very soon.
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Post by: Bladepeek on June 25, 2012, 11:37:00 AM
I'm not going to get into the "mine is faster than  yours" game here, but I just picked up an RER XR 3-Piece from another Trad Ganger on the classifieds.

Since I got shut down shooting in my back yard, I've only had a chance to shoot it in my shop (7 yds max).

My first impression is OMG is this thing fast!!! Seems like the arrow leaves the string and appears in the target at the same time. Love it!
 (http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm312/bladepeek/Archery/RER%20XR%203-piece/Lftsidestrung.jpg)
 (http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm312/bladepeek/Archery/RER%20XR%203-piece/riserlft.jpg)
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Post by: granpa on June 25, 2012, 02:40:00 PM
I would give another vote for my SheepEaters
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Post by: Keefer on July 11, 2012, 04:26:00 PM
Another vote for the RER Arroyo...
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Post by: Tbilisi on July 11, 2012, 07:24:00 PM
John Fazio's Ballistick.  He made an awesome bow.
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Post by: Bill Kissner on July 11, 2012, 08:28:00 PM
A few have mentioned the new ACS RC. I have owned literally dozens of bows from off the shelf to the fully customized, but the Orion ACS RC from Dryad is my first static recurve. I received the bow back in March but have had shoulder problems and not been able to shoot it but a few shots until the last few days. The bow is very impressive in that it is very stable(something I was skeptical of when I saw the radical recurved limbs)and it really sends a heavy arrow down range. I have been shooting some 650 and 730 grain shafts which at 40 yards will definitely make most bows look slow. It is 60# at my draw and if this static is representative of others, I am impressed to say the least and it takes a lot to impress me.
Title: Re: Static Tip Curve, What is your pick?
Post by: Wyostikbo on July 11, 2012, 08:42:00 PM
I've only shot  South's static, but I gotta say I love it!
Brent
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Post by: see on July 11, 2012, 09:48:00 PM
Shoot and own 2 arroyos.have shot the rer xr and the kymp  static tip.Arroyo is the smoothest and fastest.Its light weight is compensated by using the Kanati bow quiver and makes it even more stable in the hand.I try to stay practiced with what I will be using in the field.I also own 2 Schafer silver tips and the arroyo ranks up there with them as far as being smooth.
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Post by: sawtoothscream on July 12, 2012, 03:28:00 AM
My dryad epics are on the way!!!  cant wait to try them out.  Should make my titan a nice hunting set up if I shoot good with them
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Post by: duncan idaho on July 12, 2012, 08:25:00 AM
Raging Waters,
             Based on your experience, which is the fastest: Ibex, Dryad, or Border? I am in the market for my firt static and yes, speed is important to me. Thank you.
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Post by: Wolfkiss on July 12, 2012, 08:54:00 AM
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn273/andyabersoch/DSCN1004.jpg)

There ya go Clint,
The hex series limbs are the most static.
These are hex 5s.
I have a pair of hex 6's which are even more pronounced for my Bear TD, but cant shoot them yet as it turns out my riser is twisted, busy looking for another...Ahhhh
Load early in the draw and very smooth, almost feels like a let off as you approach full draw.
You wont be disapointed if you get one.
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Post by: Raging Water on July 12, 2012, 09:36:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by duncan idaho:
Raging Waters,
             Based on your experience, which is the fastest: Ibex, Dryad, or Border? I am in the market for my firt static and yes, speed is important to me. Thank you.
Saluki's can be the fastest due to design .... And you can use a lighter arrow. If speed is the goal. Over 230 FPS is quite doable.

Border's will launch heavier arrows with great speed. The 200 FPS mark is doable. I had a Black Douglas that was 50# and super fast.

John Fazio's Ballistick boasted a true 215 FPS with a 10 GPP arrow. Unfortunately, John passed away.

RER uses the same limb design as Fazio, so they are very fast. I have had almost no experience with RER.

Both Dryad and Sixby's Static Tip bows are crowd favorites. I have never shot either one.

My 2 cents

Matt
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Post by: sawtoothscream on July 12, 2012, 03:09:00 PM
Thought borders are not static tips?  thats what I was told at least. they sure do look it though
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Post by: Sixby on July 12, 2012, 10:33:00 PM
How about the Quik Styks?? I have always heard that they are very fast but I have never shot one?

Matt: I have never shot a bow in my life , stickbow that is that shot 215 at 10 gpp as you have said that the Fazio bow does. I';m from MO . Bro.I'm not questioning your word or integrity but I sure question that figurel

First those are glass bows from what I understand and to the best of my knowledge there is not even a double carbon recurve shooting that speed today. I know what the super fast bows today are shooting and that is in the 205 to 207 area max at 10 gpp.  That is when the bows are accurately tested with a Hooter Shooter and double chronographs ect/

God bless you all, Steve
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Post by: duncan idaho on July 13, 2012, 02:37:00 AM
RW,
  Thanks.I appreciate the information.

Steve,
      205-207 with a 10 gpp arrow? I know you will not publish the name of the brand, but, would you PM the information? Thank you.
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Post by: Raging Water on July 13, 2012, 10:21:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Sixby:
How about the Quik Styks?? I have always heard that they are very fast but I have never shot one?

Matt: I have never shot a bow in my life , stickbow that is that shot 215 at 10 gpp as you have said that the Fazio bow does. I';m from MO . Bro.I'm not questioning your word or integrity but I sure question that figurel

First those are glass bows from what I understand and to the best of my knowledge there is not even a double carbon recurve shooting that speed today. I know what the super fast bows today are shooting and that is in the 205 to 207 area max at 10 gpp.  That is when the bows are accurately tested with a Hooter Shooter and double chronographs ect/

God bless you all, Steve
Well, hmmm? Let me answer both questions.

I have shot the Kwyk Styk and they are blazingly quick and easy to shoot.

As for the 215 FPS, Uh? John Fazio passed on so we can't ask him. I have never chronoed my 82# Ballistick, so I can't say 215 FPS from personal experience. Seems like it though, LOL.

Here is a link to John's old website. It says, "an honest 215 FPS" but it does not state Arrow Weight. So, I guess I can't empirically back up my comment. Perhaps, some other Ballistick Owners can.

http://www.stickbow.com/sovereignarchery/ballistic.html

Matt
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Post by: Sixby on July 13, 2012, 11:54:00 AM
Thanks Matt. I kind of thought something like that might be the case. Bowyers often post speeds and sometimes fail to post the arrow weight compared to bow weight. You have to have that in order to judge how fast a bow really is. For instance your Ballistick would have to shoot an 820 grain arrow 215 fps.

God bless you all, Steve
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Post by: daniel boon on July 13, 2012, 12:24:00 PM
Clint, Sent you a pm, re-Border HEX6
Title: Re: Static Tip Curve, What is your pick?
Post by: Glunt on July 13, 2012, 01:12:00 PM
I believe John was referring to 215 AMO speed.  That would be 9gpp at 30".  I hunted with him a few times back when he was getting started.
Title: Re: Static Tip Curve, What is your pick?
Post by: hybridbow hunter on July 13, 2012, 03:37:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by duncan idaho:
RW,
  Thanks.I appreciate the information.

Steve,
      205-207 with a 10 gpp arrow? I know you will not publish the name of the brand, but, would you PM the information? Thank you.
No secret on this: Border HEX 6 recurve and probably Dryad ACS with bolt (not ILF) are very close to this: but on shooting machine, with low strand string with minimal or no serving, and Brace height lower than 7 " and no silencers on string....

When you and me get the bow in the purpose of hunting it will be different: 7,5" BH (or more...) : -4 fps , fur or wool silencers and central serving -3 or 4 fps, shooting with your fingers if you have a fair release : - 4 fps.
In the real world if you get something in the 192-193 fps out of these bow it will be marvelous (and a really great performance..)


....And of course if those limbs blew,  speed is zero fps or just the speed you can get throwing your arrow like a spear   :D
Title: Re: Static Tip Curve, What is your pick?
Post by: sidebuster on July 13, 2012, 05:16:00 PM
They don't make these anymore.

I knew Curtis and Rick Byrd two bowyers of Texas Recurves and Longbows in Center Point Tx who made these.  We hunted together
He needed a fax machine and I had an extra one.  Back then fax machines were rather expensive.  He made me one for the fax machine.

He made the Comanche and the Kiowa static tips.
This is a Kiowa
Very good bow. Has brought down several deer.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/doublelung/TexasRecurveKiowaModel.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/doublelung/TexasRecurveStaticTipsKiowaModel.jpg)
Title: Re: Static Tip Curve, What is your pick?
Post by: arrowlauncherdj on July 13, 2012, 09:19:00 PM
Dear Lord... How'd you ever string it?

Dave
Title: Re: Static Tip Curve, What is your pick?
Post by: duncan idaho on July 14, 2012, 09:23:00 AM
Ok, so in order to get an honest 200 with a 10gpp,with a finger release,silencers, etc, we would need something on the order of 220 on the machine?  

Think that is possible with a static tip?
Title: Re: Static Tip Curve, What is your pick?
Post by: Sixby on July 14, 2012, 02:31:00 PM
Statics Rock!!

God bless you all, Steve
Title: Re: Static Tip Curve, What is your pick?
Post by: duncan idaho on July 15, 2012, 09:18:00 AM
Ok, so in order to get an honest 200 with a 10gpp,with a finger release,silencers, etc, we would need something on the order of 220 on the machine?

Think that is possible with a static tip?

What do you think? Opinions?
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Post by: sawtoothscream on July 15, 2012, 02:59:00 PM
got my epics.  string I had was only short enough to get 6.5" but the draw is real smooth. have to wait for my string to come in before I can test fire it.
Title: Re: Static Tip Curve, What is your pick?
Post by: hybridbow hunter on July 15, 2012, 03:46:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by duncan idaho:
Ok, so in order to get an honest 200 with a 10gpp,with a finger release,silencers, etc, we would need something on the order of 220 on the machine?  

Think that is possible with a static tip?
220 fps @ 28" for 10 gpp  traditional bow doesn't exist whatever the design, and most probably will not for the coming years. And actually when i wrote those brand are close to that speed, that means in fact they are close to 200 fps @ 28" and 10 gpp on a shooting machine but pretty sure no bowyer reached that 200 fps level with a bow he will warranty for a descent time...
Title: Re: Static Tip Curve, What is your pick?
Post by: sawtoothscream on July 15, 2012, 11:13:00 PM
epic limbs are sweet. Very very smooth draw. I got the bamboo core shorts and can tell im going to like them alot when I tune it up.
Title: Re: Static Tip Curve, What is your pick?
Post by: L. E. Carroll on July 16, 2012, 01:09:00 AM
This is my favorite "static Tipped Bow"  a 55# 56" Kempf Kwyk Styk

(http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx177/BrokenArrow-03/DSCF0004-5.jpg)
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Post by: L. E. Carroll on July 16, 2012, 01:31:00 AM
Here's another I'm very happy with... a 54 static tipped "dual shelf" Grizzly

Not a speed demon but considering it's age... very fun and enjoyable to shoot.

(http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx177/BrokenArrow-03/Copyof2012RockShootandBearbows097.jpg)
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Post by: L. E. Carroll on July 16, 2012, 01:34:00 AM
Another picture of it showing the grip and over-all condition... not bad for 58 years old [ actually pretty much like new as it was in the day it left Bears facility. ]  47# @ 28" and 60" amo.

 (http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx177/BrokenArrow-03/Copyof2012RockShootandBearbows096.jpg)
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Post by: Caleb the bow breaker on July 16, 2012, 05:09:00 PM
Just to add to this thread,

I just received an RER Arroyo in the mail today and I am super impressed.  Havent had a chance to really see how it shoots, but for anybody in the static tip market I would give Kevin and Sue serious consideration.

C
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Post by: rjackson on July 16, 2012, 11:33:00 PM
My Jack Kempf Raven is awesome!
Jack got it right on his Raven with static tipped limbs.

Thanks again Jack!

Randy
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Post by: Jhoneil1 on July 18, 2012, 01:25:00 AM
I always liked the look of a Palouse bow but shooting it is another matter  ;)

 (http://jhoneil.smugmug.com/photos/977677846_XDxYs-L.jpg)    (http://jhoneil.smugmug.com/photos/977677771_HZ9Tz-L.jpg)