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Title: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: sledge on June 13, 2012, 03:13:00 AM
i'm using 3 5" feathers now, but am thinking of trying 4  4".

does 1 angle setup have advantages over the other?

thanks.

joe
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: Earl Jeff on June 13, 2012, 07:31:00 AM
WENT TO 4 @ 90DEG YEARS AGO AND NEVER WENT BACK.
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: JRY309 on June 13, 2012, 07:45:00 AM
I've done them both ways,but just like the looks of 4 fletch at 90.Both ways fly great for me.
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: KentuckyTJ on June 13, 2012, 07:52:00 AM
i've had bows that the clearance is better with the 60/120 over the 90 but that is rare. I really like four fletch.
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: Gator1 on June 13, 2012, 07:58:00 AM
I like four fletch as well, it is great for visibility of the arrow, with the 4th feather, as well as a bit more overall feathher (16") with 4 x 4"...
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: 1/4 away on June 13, 2012, 08:08:00 AM
I also switched to 4 fletch about a year or so ago. I'm shooting mine at 90 degrees and have had no issues.
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: Fletcher on June 13, 2012, 08:10:00 AM
Having shot 4-fletch for years, I prefer 90 deg.  With a well tuned arrow, clearance should not be an issue.  Some folks are sold on the 60x120, but the only advantage I see to it is that is is fletched with a regular 3-fletch jig, and most jigs will fletch 4x anyway.

90 deg 4-fletch goes way back.  The standard low clearance fletch was 75x105 and was done for cable clearance on compounds.
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: Jack Denbow on June 13, 2012, 08:18:00 AM
What Rick said.
Jack
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: stykbow67 on June 13, 2012, 09:02:00 AM
When I ordered my first custom bow back in "89/90" The late Jim Brackenbury suggested I shoot 4 fletch with my new Legend I've done it ever since with all my bows with now problems what so ever. 4x4"x90deg.

Steve
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: Danny Rowan on June 13, 2012, 09:31:00 AM
Most all of my arrows are 4 fletch 90, I seem to get better arrow flight. Have shot 4 fletch for years now.
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: Zradix on June 13, 2012, 10:02:00 AM
I tried 4 at 90˚ ( + )
Really like it.

It might not matter at all, but I like that with 90˚ the amount of feather when viewed from the side is always equal.

Other configurations don't have this trait.
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: lt-m-grow on June 13, 2012, 11:53:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Earl Jeff:
WENT TO 4 @ 90DEG YEARS AGO AND NEVER WENT BACK.
Me too.  I also use the outside feather as one of my 3 anchor points.  Touch it to my nose...
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: Margly on June 13, 2012, 06:07:00 PM
Hi!
Whats the difference between 90 and 60/120?     :confused:
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: Zradix on June 13, 2012, 06:17:00 PM
+ or x
It refers to the degrees between the feathers.
  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: Margly on June 13, 2012, 06:21:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Zradix:
+ or x
It refers to the degrees between the feathers.
  :thumbsup:
So 90' is straight?

Wouldn't you get faster rotation then with 60/120?
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: Zradix on June 13, 2012, 06:28:00 PM
they could all be ( imho should be) helically fletched.
So the rotation would be the same.
I've wondered if the 90˚ would actually rotate better do to more "clean air"

But that would be splitting hairs kind of stuff.
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: Margly on June 13, 2012, 06:42:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Zradix:
they could all be ( imho should be) helically fletched.
So the rotation would be the same.
I've wondered if the 90˚ would actually rotate better do to more "clean air"

But that would be splitting hairs kind of stuff.
Thank you for enligthen me     :thumbsup:    :)
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: arrowking on June 14, 2012, 12:07:00 AM
90 looks better no diffrence in performance
on most bows. You will get less wipp off the line with 4 if your arrows are not spined correct
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: njloco on June 14, 2012, 12:56:00 AM
I would think, that 4 is slower and bit of over kill, not to mention, movement being more easily seen in the woods. If your shooting 20-25 yds. I don't think it's going to matter that much, shoot whatever works better for you.
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: elkbreath on June 14, 2012, 01:37:00 AM
Im surprised at how many guys shoot this way!  I've never seen someone doing it, here in this solitary state.  However, I was just contemplating this morning adding another feather this go around.  

thanks!
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: sledge on June 14, 2012, 08:35:00 AM
4 by 90 it is.  

thanks all, for the good info.

it occurs to me that with no cockfeather, and 90 degrees, i'll also be able to equalize feather wear (on carbons), just by turning the nock.

joe
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: deaddoc4444 on June 14, 2012, 10:36:00 AM
I USUALLY  don't  use  4 fletch   I DO for   Flu-Flus.   When I do use a 4 fletch  I use   90 degree
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: shedhunter on June 14, 2012, 08:40:00 PM
shoot 4" 4 fletch 90 degree off all my bows.  I shoot big snuffers and have no problems with flight.  cheers  ron
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: The Whittler on June 14, 2012, 09:43:00 PM
I have a Jo-Jan right wing clamp, and you can take the nock adapter and rotate it for 4 fletch. I do not know what the degree is but my arrows do not fly good with this set up. They would kick up and bad flight.

I use the nock adapter for 3 fletch right wing clamp and do 60-120. My arrows fly great.
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: JamesKerr on June 14, 2012, 10:04:00 PM
I would go with the 4 fletch at 90 degrees just because in my opinion it looks better.
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: Dan Adair on June 15, 2012, 04:23:00 AM
I've shot whatever 4 fletch a Bitzenberger does that isn't 90 degree for about the last decade.  I tried going to a 5" 3 fletch, and having a cock feather pissed me off.  I had to go back to paper tuning to make sure that out of balance look was just a different colored feather in there.

In the real world, with broadheads, a little more fletch isn't a bad thing.  I'll give up a few FPS farther out for better arrow flight when things are less than perfect.
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: Dan Adair on June 15, 2012, 04:25:00 AM
(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL152/10882229/20647066/403042293.jpg)

It's like watching a tracer speed away from you.  That's why
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: Chromebuck on June 15, 2012, 12:51:00 PM
I have to throw a shout out to Magnus.  These are 4" X 4 fletch parabolic Canadian Goose set at 90 and I have had no better arrow flight.  Ever!  Rigid and water proof.  Love these arras...
 (http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu47/chromebuck/DSC00764.jpg)

  :notworthy:  

~CB
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: Ray Hammond on June 15, 2012, 07:30:00 PM
75-105 gives a bit better fletch clearance

For non center shot bows could be more efficient
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: elknutz on June 15, 2012, 09:11:00 PM
I've tried 90-90 and 75-105.  I like the look of the 90 better, but for me the 75-105 mounted vertically worked best as a reference point for my draw sequence. I adjusted my side plate a touch for best arrow flight. Your nose might give you different results!    :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: Escoffier1974 on June 15, 2012, 09:51:00 PM
Good evening;

When you switch from 3-fletch to 4, do you use the same length fletching, or can you go shorter?  

D
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: elknutz on June 15, 2012, 11:21:00 PM
Dave, I went from 3 5" to 4 4" feathers. Shorter feathers but an inch more total surface.  There are all sorts of options when it comes to feathers and arrows in general and playing with them can be a lot of fun.
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: Zradix on June 16, 2012, 04:18:00 AM
elknutz has it right.
Lots of options and lots of fun...and you can't really go WRONG unless you stick on really tiny feathers with a broadhead.

but you don't HAVE to go shorter.
You can just have another 5" or even 5.5" if you want...more steerage.

What I'm going to say might be a bit of hair splitting but I like that stuff....

More than just total length of feather, I feel the total surface area is a better way to compare feather profiles and setups.
Kinda tricky to do though, I just take a pic of the feather and measure the area on photoshop...I know..I know CHEATER right?..lol

to take it to extremes..a 6" feather that is only .25" high has a lot less surface area than a 3" flu flu..see what I'm getting at..?

What I like to do is find a nice balance using a quiet profile like a T-hawk, shortening it a little bit (4 5/8") while keeping the same height( diagonal base spacer in the chopper).the shorter length makes it even quieter.
And end up with four really quiet fletches that have a little more surface area than 3 5" shields.
nanners are a bit quieter, but I prefer to have the tall part of the feather that does the most work closer to the rear of the arrow.

..like I said nit picky..and unnecessary...but I like that stuff.

That's my psychosis and I'm sticking to it.
Title: Re: 4 fletch 90 or 60/120?
Post by: Mongo on June 16, 2012, 04:57:00 AM
60 X 120 for me.  Just like the way they look.  For 3 fletch I use 5.5" Shield cut and 4 fletch I go to 4" Parabola's.