Looking for arrow advice for my #46@28, Toelke Chinook, that i draw right at 28. I'd like to have an arrow at least 30", roll with points at least 145, and not pay a fortune for arrows. 1916s are looking weak, 2016 are looking to stiff unless they have quite a bit of point weight. GT3555 might be about right but the ones i have have been trimmed a little so not sure. What do you all think, 2013 maybe? Full length 3555?
I would be shooing Axis or Beman MFX arrows with about 200 grains up front. I know they are a bit more $$ than what you describe but after footing them they last until you loose them. Most of the shafts I have I have gotten on the classifieds here at good prices or trades.
2016s are a bit weaker spined at .531 if I remember than 3555s which I believe are .500 so they should not be too stiff. I would bareshaft a full length 2016 with the insert in place with a small ammount of hot melt and cut it down in 1/4" increments untill it flew SLIGHTLY spine soft at 15 yards then fletch it and paper tune at 6 feet for any final tweaking.
with an aluminum insert and 145 gr. points you should be right at 500 grains total. If you wanted to shoot carbons do the same as above except use a tiny piece of saran wrap to keep your insert in while tuning. I owned a Chinook and mine was very fast with a dacron string and very, very quiet. As with my Whips, Beman MFX carbons flew beautifully out of my Chinook.
Forgot to add if you decide on the MFX try a 50 grain brass insert (they come with 50/75 gr. break offs)and a 145 grain field point. You will end up around 510 grains total.
Center-cut of the riser makes a big difference and I don't have experience with yours. 1916 would be my first choice, but your point weight choice might require a shorter shaft than you want. I would think the 2016 with the right length & point wgt. could get you there. Aluminum shafts in the thinner-wall sizes are pretty fragile if you bare-shaft. Personally, I like full length carbons. Can be a little frustrating to tune, but between the array of inserts and point weights they offer a wide range of options. GT 35/55 blems or .500 Trad Only shafts can save you $$.
What is the depth of your shelf? I'd normally expect a 1916 or .600 to be very close at that weight.
A 1916 with a 125 flies fantastic at 29", but that puts a broadhead a little closer to my fingers then I like. I've got some new full length 2016s I'm going to try, just wanted some other options in case I don't like what I come up with.
I am shooting that weight at 27". I have been using GT 3555 cut to 29" and standard inserts, with a 175 grain head. Sounds to me that you would be in the ball park with your 145 grain heads, depending on your style. Any particular reason that you want 2" out front? I added weight in the insert to cut mine back a little on this new set I am working up. I see little reason to keep arrows longer than I have to.
Killdeer
PS, I have had very good luck with 2013 arrows, and I think a 2016 would work for you.
Killdeer
Stand by things are getting weird. Actually got it on paper and 2016s are looking to weak. Give me a few, I'm sure I'll be back with questions!
I use the GT3555's with a few bows of similar specs that you mentioned. Mine are cut to 29.25" and I use different points/heads and the weights that screw in behind the inserts to fine tune the same arrows in my bows:
a 52" recurve 46@28 (cut to center and more forgiving) - 125 gr. points;
a 56" Shrew 49@28 w/ 150 gr. points;
and a 68" Hill 55@28 w/ 200 gr. points. (With the Hill, GT5575's do well with more weight up front.)
I'd go with Braveheart's suggestion - I shot 3555's, full length, on a similar set up and could only get halfway decent flight with 250 grains up front. Too much point weight for me; and at more than 15-18 yards the arrows dropped radically. I think you'd be better off with not less than .600 spine. Just my two cents.
Well I've seen it all now. Getting perfect bullet holes with 30.5" Gt5575 with the standard aluminum insert and 145gr. Point. Scale says they are right at 460gr. And chronograph says ~165 fps. They should be way stiff, but the bow says it loves them. Maybe the sbd string had something to do with it??
QuoteOriginally posted by Biathlonman:
Well I've seen it all now. Getting perfect bullet holes with 30.5" Gt5575 with the standard aluminum insert and 145gr. Point. Scale says they are right at 460gr. And chronograph says ~165 fps. They should be way stiff, but the bow says it loves them. Maybe the sbd string had something to do with it??
I was shooting Dan's Lynx recently and quickly learned it liked a stiff arrow. Got some replies here that confirmed it. I can shoot beman mfx 500s or 600s out of my 45# whips
It takes 250 on the front of the same arrow on my #50 lynx, that with a fat string though
GT 3555's
I shoot GT3555"s out of my 46 pound bows. 50 grain brass inserts 45 gr points arrows cut to 29.25 My draw is the same as yours, theses shoot out of my bob Lee and also my Titan both are 46# @28.
I have been shooting the 55/75 tips out of my 44lb bows at 27" for the last 5 years they fly great for me too. The heavier shaft seems quieter too.