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Title: 4 fletch
Post by: Scattergun2570 on June 04, 2012, 03:19:00 AM
Was at the range today and saw a guy who had 4 fletchings,not 3. I asked why..he said they fly better than 3,and stabilizes quicker.. Anyone use 4 fletch,or have any thoughts on this?
Title: Re: 4 fletch
Post by: Grey Taylor on June 04, 2012, 03:27:00 AM
A whole bunch of people use four fletch. I never found a need for it myself. Doesn't mean it's wrong, though.

Guy
Title: Re: 4 fletch
Post by: Mongo on June 04, 2012, 04:54:00 AM
I've used four fletch on some of my hunting arrows with 160gr. Snuffers.  They do stabilize a little quicker at the cost of slowing down quicker due to increased surface area.

The one other thing with a four fletch is that you don't have to align it like a three fletch.
Title: Re: 4 fletch
Post by: Night Wing on June 04, 2012, 06:49:00 AM
Basically, three or four fletch comes down to personal preference. I like three fletch.
Title: Re: 4 fletch
Post by: JRY309 on June 04, 2012, 07:47:00 AM
I shoot both 3 and 4 fletch,shot 3 for years but then made up some 4 fletch.They shot just as well if not better.Most of my arrows I make these days I'm using 4 fletch.Like Night Wing says it comes down to personal preference.On a well tuned arrow it makes little difference which one you use.
Title: Re: 4 fletch
Post by: Terry Green on June 04, 2012, 08:09:00 AM
When you get into a fire fight.....the no-look nocking comes in handy.....I switched years ago and doubt I'll ever shoot 3 again.

And, if you go from say 5.5 inch high back shields to 5 inch regular shields,(like I did) you WONT have a cost of slowing down.  You sure aren't going to shoot the difference at normal hunting differences.
Title: Re: 4 fletch
Post by: Zradix on June 04, 2012, 08:18:00 AM
I'm shooting 4 fletch on some heavy arrows now.
It works well.

After doing the math, I found I could have four lower profile ( quieter ) fletch that had more total surface area than my normal 3 fletch.

This 4 fletch set up did end up being quieter.

I didn't notice the drop in speed although I'm sure adding that extra feather must have slowed it down some tiny amount.

I used a " + " configuration.
Some use a " X ".

I felt the + looked more balanced..so I went with it.
Title: Re: 4 fletch
Post by: Jack Denbow on June 04, 2012, 08:31:00 AM
I have been shooting 4 fletch since 1969, I guess you could say I like them.
Jack
Title: Re: 4 fletch
Post by: Hermon on June 04, 2012, 08:33:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:

And, if you go from say 5.5 inch high back shields to 5 inch regular shields,(like I did) you wont have a cost of slowing down.  You sure aren't going to shoot the difference at normal hunting ranges.
Terry-
You are shooting 4 - 5" feathers?
Title: Re: 4 fletch
Post by: Terry Green on June 04, 2012, 08:34:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Jack Denbow:
I have been shooting 4 fletch since 1969, I guess you could say I like them.
Jack
Dang Jack....I was only 5 years old when you made the switch....isn't that the year we landed on the moon?
Title: Re: 4 fletch
Post by: Terry Green on June 04, 2012, 08:35:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Hermon:

You are shooting 4 - 5" feathers?
Yes Sir.  Found out it has real advantages years ago.
Title: Re: 4 fletch
Post by: Mudd on June 04, 2012, 08:44:00 AM
I got hooked on 4 fletch with my Snag arrows.

I still have a lot of 3 fletch but any new arrows that come here to live will have 4 on them.

God's grace and peace!
Title: Re: 4 fletch
Post by: 3Feathers on June 04, 2012, 08:53:00 AM
Do you guys use a straight or a helical fletch on those with 4 feathers?
Title: Re: 4 fletch
Post by: creekwood on June 04, 2012, 08:55:00 AM
Here is a photo of some 4 inch four helically fletched arrows. Also, the bow is the Hi-Breed that Jack Guard just bought on this year's St Jude's auction.  Like Terry said, when you get into a "fire fight", ya don't have ta look to see how the nock is oriented and I also can't see any loss in velocity either. Incidently, these arrows are made using the Beman MFX shafts.


 (http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j456/jalariso/DSCN0568.jpg)  (http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j456/jalariso/DSCN2161.jpg)
Title: Re: 4 fletch
Post by: Terry Green on June 04, 2012, 08:57:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by 3Feathers:
Do you guys use a straight or a helical fletch on those with 4 feathers?
You should NEVER use straight fletch with broadheads.  Either helical of off set.
Title: Re: 4 fletch
Post by: Terry Green on June 04, 2012, 08:58:00 AM
Hey Creek....you are the guy that sent me that nice note along with the bow aren't you?

Maybe Jack will let me keep it for a few weeks...I got a hog hunt coming up.
Title: Re: 4 fletch
Post by: Zradix on June 04, 2012, 09:01:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by 3Feathers:
Do you guys use a straight or a helical fletch on those with 4 feathers?
You should NEVER use straight fletch with broadheads.  Either helical of off set. [/b]
Yep.
I prefer helical.
Title: Re: 4 fletch
Post by: Zradix on June 04, 2012, 09:13:00 AM
I should say though..
I really like the 4 fletch on heavy arrows.

The next batch I'm making up are going to be a lot lighter and I'll be going with 3 fletch on those.

I have noticed when comparing different arrow setups side by side the ones with higher foc AND 5" or so 4 fletch will act like a wind vane in a crosswind.

Like everything, there is a certain balance that is nice to achieve.

...4 fletch just look cool too.
Title: Re: 4 fletch
Post by: creekwood on June 04, 2012, 09:19:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:
Hey Creek....you are the guy that sent me that nice note along with the bow aren't you?

Maybe Jack will let me keep it for a few weeks...I got a hog hunt coming up.
Terry, Although I know that Jack can't wait to get his hands on his new bow, I'll bet he could stand to wait a few more weeks, after all, all it will do is give the bow more history and mojo. That is one sweet shooter, for sure. Hey Jack! Are ya out there reading this? What do ya say?    ;)   P.S. - The reason I had the bow last fall is because I won the use of it in last year's St Jude's fund raiser. Thanks again to chopx2 for making all this fun possible.  
:clapper:
Title: Re: 4 fletch
Post by: RUTANDSTRUT on June 04, 2012, 09:24:00 AM
i have noticed if a had a slightly "untunable" 5" 3fletch arrow with broadheads, then switched to a 4" 4 fletch, it would definetely stabilze my arrow better usually correcting the original problem while seeing no difference in trajectory out to about 30 yards .  This should NOT be a remedy for an untuned arrow but rather a step up in stabilization needed for some shooting styles where a perfectly bareshaft tuned arrow is not possible.  fyi: i shoot with a "lazy" third finger where my perfectly spined arrows always bareshaft tune with a nock high position regardless of where nocking point is located.  4fletch look cool too!
Title: Re: 4 fletch
Post by: LongbowArchitect on June 04, 2012, 10:47:00 AM
I've been shooting 4-5" helical for at least 20 years.  I don't have to look at my arrow to nock it on my string, they show up slightly better in flight and they stablalize my 640 gr arrows slightly faster than 3 fletch.  Also my 4 fletch can all be the same color in lieu of a contrasting cock feather which looks better to me in my bow quiver and in flight.
Title: Re: 4 fletch
Post by: Blue Tick on July 17, 2012, 05:11:00 PM
Been reading a lot of threads on 4 fletch. It seems some of you guys are using 4"and some are using 5" is there any major difference or better performance seen from 1 or the other?
Title: Re: 4 fletch
Post by: Zradix on July 17, 2012, 05:19:00 PM
Major..no
better...maybe.

Longer feathers are generally higher..which in turn are generally louder.

I like silent arrows..or at least as silent as I can get.

So, I've found that with the right fletch combo (4-4 5/8" modded T-hawk) I could get 4 shorter, quieter feathers that had more surface area to help in the forgiveness area than I was getting with 3- 5" shields.
Title: Re: 4 fletch
Post by: Earl Jeff on July 17, 2012, 05:53:00 PM
Just pop them on the string, No need to look for the cock feather helps when hunting.