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That time of year again....Team Tippit & Bear Quest!

This year I've decided to be less primitive (although I still thinking of my Owl bow) and go to the Golden Age of Recurves.  I don't normally shoot recurves but I picked up my old 56" Drake Hunter Flight that Bow Doc had refinished a few years back for me.  The bow is smooth, quiet & super fast...plus gorgeous.

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This called for a New Design Team Tippit broadhead.  I decided to try forging an integral head with a stem that would slip into a Beman 500 ICS Hunter carbon shaft.

Forging the taper of the head:

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Next I used my power hammer to make the rolled stem insert:

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Quenched head weighing 330gr.  Will finish up at 300 gr with arrow weight around 550.  Nice and heavy as I'm looking at a 10 yard or under shot.  At ten yards the drop due to weight won't be any different from my usual 225 gr heads.

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Rolled stem as insert into arrow shaft:

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Once the point is out of the tempering oven, I'll make up the arrow and torture test it with pictures...tippit

Hey Jeff,
       I couldn't view any of the pictures for some reason...I am not having any issues on other posts so not sure why...really want to see the BH.

Brian

Brian,
I can see them on my computer.  Guess I'll have to wait & see if others are having trouble viewing too.

I can see them just fine Jeff...and it looks awesome!  Looking forward to the shooting reviews!

Travis

I had used this rolling of full thickness steel to form my competition chopper.  It makes for one solid chunk of steel that ain't gonna move.  Hopefully the broadhead will be as sturdy.

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/tippit/Knives/TiaGooStyleChopper032.jpg)  

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/tippit/Knives/TiaGooStyleChopper045.jpg)

Looks awesome Jeff! Can't wait to see what it looks like with bear blood on it.   :thumbsup:   That's a team I'd like to make one day  :)

That is awesome. I think I should send my team tippit head to you for a makeover.

Very cool!

Very cool.  I will be watching closely how you mount this on the carbon shaft.   I assume you will epoxy it, but I will wait and see as I know you have some tricks up you sleeve when you mount these on other shaft types in the past.  

It seems it would be challenging getting it aligned with the shaft, at least to me.

Maybe a clay-like epoxy would work...

Waiting and learning...

Thanks for sharing...And again cool stuff.

It-m-grow,
This one will be easy to mount as it fits the ID of my Bemans by just sliding in.  There won't be a need for any other insert in the shaft.  I'll probably use hot melt glue the same way I glue in regular inserts.

I just forged it out this morning.  I did a trial to get fit & spin alignment before tempering.  Everything is true so no tuning or adjusting needed.

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Are you ever planning on making up some in the lower grain weights?  Something in the 125 to say 200 weights?

Great work, Jeff. Those ought to be some real bear thumpers.

That is pure-T sweet!

Dang Jeff...

I remember you hafted a different head to something to get it in a carbon before...

I can't find that thread...but thought it might work to use a napped stone head to a carbon...

You recall that thread???

Holy cow....that's cool!!!   :thumbsup:    :notworthy:

stringstretcher,
I do them down to 200gr but I shoot 250-300gr regularly.

Doc,
What I did on that carbon shaft was glue in wood doll rods and cut a groove to half in the trade point.  It worked  great.  But you can't rest on your laurels    :)  

The problem with stone heads & carbons is the diameter of the carbon shaft being much smaller than wood.  Besides even though I violate a lot of purist ideals like shooting carbon from my selfbows, I won't violate someones beautiful stone head on a carbon shaft    

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Those look great!

Jeff, looking forward to seing this setup in person next weekend   :thumbsup:

That is cool!  :thumbsup:

That looks awesome!!

Passed the 2X4 test with no damage to the head or the shaft with aluminum foot.  Plus flies great.  Bear certified & ready to be first one out of the quiver @ Bear Quest.

Thanks for all the kind response...tippit

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now that is cool!!!!!! Great work!!!!

Two words, BAD AZZ!

Another one hit out of the park Jeff !!

Similar to your 2nd gen with improvements. Considering the use (abuse) I've given the 2nd gen this model should last forever.

Bears beware.  That should let the air out of one quick.

Cool idea and great execution!

:thumbsup:

Nice work Jeff !!!  :thumbsup:  


Bill

Wow. Pure art!!

Looks like it should do the job just fine.

     Nice work.

Good luck Jeff!  Looking forward to the stories to come!

Just wondering now why no one else is making broadheads with the steel glued to the inside of a carbon.  Seems much simpler then all the adapters.

Thanks for sharing, your arrow has dead bear written all over it. Good luck.

Jeff,
Wish I was going to help you skin out the bear!  Good Luck!

That looks great!  You should forge up a couple hundred of them to sale.   :D

Awesome Doc and good luck!!!!

Very cool, can't wait to see the results on a big ol boar!  :thumbsup:

QuoteOriginally posted by tippit:
It-m-grow,
This one will be easy to mount as it fits the ID of my Bemans by just sliding in.  There won't be a need for any other insert in the shaft.  I'll probably use hot melt glue the same way I glue in regular inserts.

I just forged it out this morning.  I did a trial to get fit & spin alignment before tempering.  Everything is true so no tuning or adjusting needed.

Wow.  Very cool.  I assumed (wrongly) that there would be a poor alignment at least in one direction (up, down, left, or right) between the point of the the blade and the insert portion after forging and rolling the insert portion.   Not to any great degree of course, just enough to make it not spin perfectly true.  

SO I assumed (again wrongly :-) ) that you would grind the insert a little extra and use the "slop" to allow for a spin adjustment to true it up.

Leave it to the master...I knew you had a trick, but you didn't share it :-)

Thanks.  Good luck bear hunting.

Well after shooting some more, I felt it was a bit too heavy and too hard to easily sharpen with a file.  Broadheads need to be softer than a knife for ease of sharpening.  They don't need to be scary sharp but for a millisecond!

So I re-ground the head like I would do a double bladed knife and back in the oven.

Finished...

Team Tippit head 250gr glued in and Kevlar wrap to keep shaft from splitting.

Arrow painted all white to be able to shoot in low/evening light plus easy to see against a Black Object!

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Too cool buddy!!!   :notworthy:

Very nice looking head

That gives a new meaning to knapping. Great work Tippit.

Looks great Jeff, hope the next picture is spoiled with blood!   :readit:

Looks like perfect medicine for yet another biggest bear-of-the-year!

Beautiful work, Jeff!

Great job Jeff, how many hours of work do you have in the head?

It takes about 1-2 hours of forging, grinding, tempering, and fitting but not all at once. It's pretty easy if I'm already forging a knife...But certainly Not something I want to do for profit  :)

very cool!    :archer:

Looks like a deadly package.  Hopefully the hunt will be as entertaining as the engineering process