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Title: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: PeteA on May 27, 2012, 07:16:00 AM
Looking for a pattern, help, advise, all the above. Bouncing back and forth regarding finger protection. I like something thin. Like to feel the string. I even shoot bare finger occasionally but fingers get sore pretty fast. I getting a great loose from bare finger. I'm currently using a Damascus shooting glove also. Nice and thin, pretty good loose, but i'm pretty hard on it. Thinking about switching back to a tab. I took apart one of those 3 piece calves hair tabs and started using I single layer. Very similar loose to bare finger and gives me a pretty good amount of protection. Only thing it has all kinds of snaps and holes in it. So I was thinking I could make a few tabs from a thin leather. The type that has the hole in the leather that goes over the middle finger. So that brings me back to my question, what weight / type of leather. Where can I get a pattern?  I guess i could use one if the layers of the tab I took apart. I'm a size medium. All advise welcome.
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: Bill Carlsen on May 27, 2012, 07:34:00 AM
You need to find a source for small pieces of cordovan leather. That makes the best tabs. I've heard of guys buying cordovan shoes at Goodwill just to get the leather for tabs.
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: Keefer on May 27, 2012, 07:36:00 AM
Pete,
This is a thread that I am going to watch like a hawk cause Im in the same boat as you...I recently have noticed my Damascas,Bear paw Black and Bearpaw leather are showing heavy grooves and hanging up on my release but not sure it's all the gloves fault but mine due to my shooting hand was severed and reattached from a Logsplitter accident and this could be why I'm getting a grove in them..I have made my own tabs but not 100% happy with the results..A very close friend of mine has one with an "O" ring attached so he could flip the tab back when hanging stands,pulling arrows and such... I may try and duplicate his and try it out...I hope someone shows some more tab styles that they made with a pattern as well...Now Pete just a few days ago there was a post about one with the hole cut in the tab for your finger but I like the "O" RING design better and it is stitched right onto the tab with faux sinew ...Maybe someone can step in and post one if they made one this way...Keefers<><
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: Killdeer on May 27, 2012, 07:37:00 AM
:wavey:  
You are looking for my tab, from your description.
I use Cordovan leather, but other leather will do. It just won't be as slick or last as long. Use your existing tab as a pattern. Cut the new tab a little large, and the hole a little small, and between breaking it in and tweaking the trim to suit you, you will have the perfect tab.

You might want to try the Cordovan tab that Don Ward (2Fletch) makes.

Killdeer   :archer2:
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: Charlie Lamb on May 27, 2012, 08:10:00 AM
Cordovan can be hard to find. I've made lots of tabs from whatever leather I have on hand.... soft tanned leathers aren't stiff enough.

Work some paraffin into the leather to improve "slickness".
  (http://www.tradgang.com/upload/charlie/tabR.jpg)
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: magnus on May 27, 2012, 08:43:00 AM
I made one for the boy. Took a piece of leather traced a smaller tab patter on it and then cut it out bigger than the tracing. Had him try it on and trimmed it accordingly. Fairly simple.
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: Dirtybird on May 27, 2012, 09:14:00 AM
If you have a shoe repair shop around sometimes they have cordovan leather you could buy from them.
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: Rick Richard on May 27, 2012, 09:43:00 AM
I know you want to make your own, but Don Ward from EFA has some outstanding tabs that will last forever and reasonably priced.
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: tippit on May 27, 2012, 09:10:00 PM
I use two layers as the string seems to slip off without a crease in the tab.  Now shooting 3 fingers under so no separation cut.  Cordovan is best but other leather waxed works just as well for me...tippit

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v110/tippit/Tab1.jpg)
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: Caughtandhobble on May 27, 2012, 11:05:00 PM
Pete,

I'll send you a tab. Do you want split finger or 3 under?
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: Green on May 28, 2012, 04:37:00 AM
I was going to post up the C&H had a make-your-own thread running, and here he goes and offers to send you one.  Too cool.
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: YORNOC on May 29, 2012, 06:18:00 AM
A GREAT leather that is very inexpensive is the "oil tanned" utility hides from Tandy. I have cut tons for people and still have my original going on ten years. Just a single layer, nothing fancy. Best tab I've ever had.
I oil it up every year with pitch blend and it hasnt failed me yet!
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: BOWMARKS on May 29, 2012, 06:53:00 AM
Been using my self made Cordovan for 7 - 8 years now. I got lucky found a man with a bunch of leather and he helped me out.
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: Green on May 29, 2012, 07:53:00 AM
You might also check into Scott Teaschner's (sponsor) single layer Cordovan tab...very simple, but with a snap so you can change out the O ring to suit barefinger or shooting with a glove on.
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: eminart on May 29, 2012, 08:23:00 AM
I just got the traditional bug a few months ago. I decided to drag out my old Black Bear bowfishing bow to play with while I wait on my longbow to be made. I didn't have a tab, so I dug into my leather supply (I'm a falconer so I keep some handy). I cut out a thin tab from kangaroo leather. I just wanted something to use until I could decide on what tab I wanted to buy. After a couple of months of shooting it, I don't see any reason to "upgrade". It's simple, works great, and is easily replaced if I ever wear it out. Kangaroo leather is very tough and stretch resistant though, which is why we use it for jesses and anklets in falconry.

I made my tab similar to the Teaschner tabs mentioned above, except I didn't have any snaps at the time, so I put a rivet where his snap is, and just used a loop of paracord where his rubber o-ring is. I can adjust the size of the loop by the knot.
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: kpete on May 29, 2012, 10:19:00 AM
I went to a leather supply shop and they had scraps of hair-on cow hide.  Hair makes them pretty slick.  I cut a number of tabs out of the piece.  I keep a couple in my day pack as spares. My buds tell me tha they wear out to quickly-I have not worn one out yet, and they are cheap to make.  As for pattern-I used another tab for a start, but ended up making a pattern on a grocery sack by sketching, trimming, etc.
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: Jeff Strubberg on May 29, 2012, 02:41:00 PM
If you buy cordovan leather, make sure you are buying cordovan shell leather and not cordovan colored leather!  I made that mistake early on...
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: RedShaft on May 29, 2012, 09:08:00 PM
Those of you who make your tabs, how do you stitch them? or do you have a heavy duty sewing machine? thnks
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: YORNOC on May 29, 2012, 09:12:00 PM
I dont stitch anything myself for a tab. I prefer the feel of a one layer tab under my fingers, it gives me the best release.
To each their own, I know most will disagree.
You can buy leather stitching punches pretty cheap and sew yourself by hand very easily. Tandy is a common source. Free how-to's online.
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: Scott S. on May 29, 2012, 09:27:00 PM
I use a single layer leather tab.  I got a piece of fairly heavy (maybe as thick as a thin leather belt, stiff back quiver or possibles bag) but still flexible scrap leather from a leather-worker.  I used an old Ben Pearson finger tab as a pattern. They used to call it a "Western tab."  It's the kind with two finger holes--one for the index finger and the other, bigger hole for the second and third fingers
(similar to the one in this link:  http://shop.idmsports.com.au/popup_image.php?pID=36&osCsid=e3krghc9qscgs3p8gerb4f3u10)

I treat it periodically with Montana Pitch Blend to keep it supple and water-resistant.

I also started using tie-on nocking points rather than the brass ones that scraped groves into the tab.
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: Killdeer on May 29, 2012, 11:56:00 PM
I sure miss working with horses.
When the vet had to put penicillin in one, I would glom onto the huge needle he used and put it in my leather kit. Best sewing awl I ever found.

Killdeer
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: on May 30, 2012, 08:30:00 AM
I mostly prefer doing my own leatherwork, but I can't duplicate the Bateman Cordovan tab for what they cost. Several configurations--ewbateman.com.
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: maineac on May 30, 2012, 08:37:00 AM
I pick up medium thin (flexible) vegetable tanned leather from a local leather store.  They are suple and work great for me.  I might try treating them, but have no complaints.  I can buy enough for a 2 dozen tabs for about 10 bucks.
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: eminart on May 30, 2012, 11:29:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by RedShaft:
Those of you who make your tabs, how do you stitch them? or do you have a heavy duty sewing machine? thnks
I didn't stitch mine either. But, sewing leather is pretty simple. There are various ways to do it, most of which require buying two or three small tools.
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: BaldingEagle on May 30, 2012, 03:31:00 PM
One or two layers of thin leather - shooter's preference.
1 O-ring (Mine is a  #18 size)
two simple stiches.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/jpleck/Tab.jpg)
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Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: YORNOC on May 30, 2012, 03:52:00 PM
Good idea John, I like that.
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: Roadkill on May 30, 2012, 03:55:00 PM
you can drill holes and use a big needle with waxed thread.  I sticth some and use a chicago screw for othrs with an o-ring

Just got some cordovan from a friend and have 2 tabs on the table.
Any leather can be used-if mine is too thick, it gets to experience the belt sander.  I use the dander on the edges anyway to make them uniform and smoooooth
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: Keefer on May 30, 2012, 04:57:00 PM
John,
Thanks for that pic ... Otis was trying to explain to me and your name came up about the one he has was yours or something of that nature...I think I can do that one...Thanks again for the pic Brother! I think by the looks of Otis's his   :biglaugh:  will slide over my wrist!
                        Keefers <><
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: RedShaft on May 30, 2012, 09:03:00 PM
oh okay! thanks guys and gals im thinking of trying to make some and experiment with designs.

Dont mean to hi jack your thread.... but those of you who use single leather im guessing don't use a finger spacer. what difference does it make in the feel and finger pinch? i have never shot a tab before without a spacer. thanks
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: Keefer on May 31, 2012, 04:15:00 PM
John,
I just took a piece of paper and held up to the computer screen and traced your design then after I penciled it in I thought to myself Me talking to myself now  "How dumb am I "  all I had to do was print the page on the copier! That's a Backwoods Redneck for ya....   :help:  sometimes but hey...It worked...  :archer:
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: Rob DiStefano on May 31, 2012, 05:47:00 PM
been making my own thin latigo leather tabs for about, oh, near fify years now.  i like 'em super simple, one piece of thin leather with a "chromed" slick side.  i use a pattern and cut out with a real sharp knife or #11 xacto blade, the run a match or candle flame over the edges to burn off any "fuzz".  i look for thin leather, typically latigo but cordovan shoe leather is fine, too.  not too stiff and not too soft - you'll know the right stuff when ya finger it.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/rfdee/archery/tab1.jpg)
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: PeteA on May 31, 2012, 09:09:00 PM
TTT
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: Killdeer on May 31, 2012, 11:03:00 PM
What, all this info didn't solve your problem?
What are we, chopped liver?
  :knothead:    :eek:  
Killdeer  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Who makes their own thin tabs?
Post by: Rob DiStefano on June 01, 2012, 05:50:00 AM
yeesh!