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Title: CARBON
Post by: Scattergun2570 on May 24, 2012, 07:33:00 PM
I was wondering if anyone shoots carbon for deer here. When I look at the GPI of carbon arrows,,they seem kind of light as compared to aluminum and wood. Traditional archery, from what I have learned here,isn`t about speed,weight is more critical. So anyone use em?
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Post by: daveycrockett on May 24, 2012, 07:38:00 PM
Do a search for carbon arrows. I'd venture to say that a lot of shooters shoot carbon.
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Post by: ChuckC on May 24, 2012, 07:39:00 PM
Sure.  You can make em heavy a lot of ways, and by being lighter to start with, any addition to the front brings up the FOC or whatever that is.

They are also pretty easy to make and stand up to a fair amount of abuse.  I still use wood (and aluminum), but also use carbon for deer hunting.
ChuckC
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Post by: Scattergun2570 on May 24, 2012, 07:45:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by ChuckC:
Sure.  You can make em heavy a lot of ways, and by being lighter to start with, any addition to the front brings up the FOC or whatever that is.

They are also pretty easy to make and stand up to a fair amount of abuse.  I still use wood (and aluminum), but also use carbon for deer hunting.
ChuckC
So what carbon arrow do you shoot whats the total weight and how do you get it heavier?
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Post by: khardrunner on May 24, 2012, 07:47:00 PM
I shoot predator II's and usually have arrows between 550 and 600 grains for my 50 lb bow
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Post by: JamesKerr on May 24, 2012, 08:00:00 PM
I shoot 3rivers trad only 340 with a 100 grain brass insert and a 200 grain point, total arrow weight is 650 grains
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Post by: USN_Sam1385 on May 24, 2012, 08:00:00 PM
Carbon are great. They are straight, tough as nails, and the traditional style that Gold Tip makes are fairly attractive.

I shoot bows between 50 and 56 #'s.

I use a Gold Tip Traditional 5575 cut to 29". I put  100 grain brass inserts in the front and use a 160 grain Zwickey Broadhead. I use 3 feathers, 4 inches in length in the Parabolic cut style.

The arrows weigh approximately 550 grains and are approximately 11 grains per pound.

Plenty for anything in North America with a well placed shot.
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Post by: 2treks on May 24, 2012, 08:30:00 PM
I have killed many many deer with carbons. Toss in a steel insert and screww on a heavy head and you will have no problem cracking the 12-14 GPP range. Several makes of carbon shafts make heavier shafts for us trad shooters,
My last arrow was 780gn using a 165 ACE EXPRESS head.
I got pass thrus all but once,that one time resulted in a seriously broken shoulder on the off side. The heart and both lungs proved for a short trail-up.
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Post by: David McLendon on May 24, 2012, 08:33:00 PM
I quit shooting so much wood as much as I like it because I can't get the weight and FOC that I want in a wood arrow. Carbon is as heavy or light as you want to make it and it is either straight or broke.
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Post by: Bowwild on May 24, 2012, 09:07:00 PM
I can't imagine ever shooting anything but my beloved Beman MFX Classics out of my recurves! They are straight, small diameter, and like was said above, I can make them as heavy as I want or need. I think the small diameter makes them easier to tune for me.

I hunt with 505 grain arrows now but in 2010 I had two complete pass-throughs on white-tails from treestands at 21 and 15 yards out of a 48# bow.
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Post by: ChuckC on May 25, 2012, 01:04:00 PM
Similar to USN SAM I use a Gold Tip Traditional 5575 cut to 30.5". I put 100 grain brass inserts in the front and use a 175 grain VPA three blade Broadhead. I use 3 or 4 feathers, 4 inches in length in the shield cut style.

Typically I can get over 550 grains of weight. As said above. .  plenty

Folks have used a ton of things INSIDE the length of the shaft to add weight, from pepper, to plastic tubing to weed eater cord etc.  Heck, I played with an old Beeman skinny shaft and inserted yarn wrapped solder and the final weight exceeded 1,000 grains.  It flew like a beast out of my 83# bow, but I broke two Beeman nocks on release due to their lack of robustness and the excessive amount of stress that did to the mix.

ChuckC
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Post by: maineac on May 25, 2012, 01:30:00 PM
I have some CX Heritage 150's 29.5" standard insert, wraps and 250 grain heads.  Comes out around 620, some CX predators4560s full length, standard insert, 250 gr head comes out around 560 grns.
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Post by: Plumber on May 25, 2012, 04:27:00 PM
love them I got no problem getting good weight.Ineed to shootem as much as I miss.Iwould go broke If I shot anything els.
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Post by: South MS Bowhunter on May 25, 2012, 04:45:00 PM
Yes, GT traditionals 5575, 505 grns, approx 9.6 GPP. Never have shot wood (not that I wouldn't) and the Carbon have worked great and take a beating pretty good, especially if you foot them.
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Post by: Caughtandhobble on May 25, 2012, 05:53:00 PM
I love Gold Tip Arrows. Like already mentioned, there are many ways to heavy up the arrow and GT's have plenty accessories for them from weight tubes to heavy inserts.
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Post by: ishoot4thrills on May 25, 2012, 10:52:00 PM
My Beman MFX Classics aren't light in weight, especially with 100 gr. brass inserts up front. Look at my signature below for the details.
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Post by: Bear Heart on May 25, 2012, 11:10:00 PM
I shoot heritage 250s.  Plenty heavy.
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Post by: Skipmaster1 on May 25, 2012, 11:58:00 PM
My MFX 340's with 100 grain brass inserts and 250 grain heads work great! I forget the weight but somewhere near 700 grains, great FOC, super straight and super deadly!
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Post by: stujay on May 26, 2012, 02:52:00 AM
Mine are 31" 340 Beman ICS hunters with 100 grain brass insert and 150 gr broadhead for a weight of 560 grains.
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Post by: SS Snuffer on May 26, 2012, 09:58:00 AM
Shot thru the last 4 deer! Not bad for a 42lb. bow.
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Post by: awbowman on May 26, 2012, 11:46:00 AM
Heritage 150s, 50 grain insert, 200 grain heads, wraps. A little over 580 grains out of a 47# bow. Just started trad bows, but I have no doubt it will do the job.

Stays straight, tough and way less trouble
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Post by: huskyarcher on May 26, 2012, 12:22:00 PM
I shoot CE Terminators and with 175-200 grains up front they are very, very devastating on deer, thats out of a #60 Longbow