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Title: canoes and bows
Post by: RobinHood1389 on May 22, 2012, 10:40:00 AM
Anybody here go out in a canoe with their bow? I used to bow fish on the local river with mine. But my canoe is gone now.
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: bowzonly on May 22, 2012, 11:37:00 AM
From a story in BOWHUNTER mag a few years ago.  BIG CITY BOWFISHUNG.  Also use a smaller canoe for bowhunting ducks.

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Post by: Kip on May 22, 2012, 12:52:00 PM
Louisiana has a narrow corridor between a bayou and Interstate 49.Not wanting for stray bullets to kill the travelers they made it a bow only reserve for hogs and deer.I took a very hot August trip with my two nephews to scout and in January I made a solo overnite camping and hunting trip.Plenty of sign but no shot but I will be back.
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Hot and tired.
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Camping and hunting.
(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p191/Kip_album/DSCN1066-1.jpg)
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Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: Ron LaClair on May 22, 2012, 12:59:00 PM
(http://shrewbows.com/rons_linkpics/Armstrong%20Creek%20Buck.jpg)

  (http://shrewbows.com/rons_linkpics/Buck-in-canoe.jpg)
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Post by: Ron LaClair on May 22, 2012, 01:02:00 PM
(http://shrewbows.com/rons_linkpics/Yew_canoe.jpg)

  (http://shrewbows.com/rons_linkpics/Birch_Bark_hunters.jpg)
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Post by: Piratkey on May 22, 2012, 01:09:00 PM
This one look perfect for bowfishing  http://www.freedomhawkkayaks.com/
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Post by: RC on May 22, 2012, 01:31:00 PM
I just recently got a Kayak and can tell you its gonna be fun. One of my honey holes is a little over two miles from the road. I can drive to the otherside of the river and cross with the yak and walk 200 yards.RC
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Post by: Anointed Archer on May 22, 2012, 01:36:00 PM
Love those pictures Ron!
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Post by: awbowman on May 22, 2012, 01:41:00 PM
Great pictures guys!
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Post by: Kip on May 22, 2012, 02:06:00 PM
Here are a few other scounting trip pics.These cypress trees were cut maybe 75-100 years ago.It is an 8' paddle with about two feet past the paddle.We saw many like this.If this bayou could talk.
(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p191/Kip_album/189.jpg)
Frog took a ride.

(http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p191/Kip_album/202.jpg)
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Post by: maineac on May 22, 2012, 02:15:00 PM
I shot my first deer with a bow out of canoe, it was with a wheelie bow, but I would not hesitate to shoot my shorter bows kneeling in the canoe.  I have used a small kayak, but I don't think I could have brought out any game bigger than a turkey in it (here in Maine we have to bring out the whole deer, can't quarter it).
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Post by: SELFBOW19953 on May 22, 2012, 02:18:00 PM
I much prefer a canoe to a kayak, especially for hunting.  Can you imagine Ron trying to take out his deer using a kayak?  I have duck hunted many times from a canoe, usually with a retriever-try that in a kayak.  Getting into and out of a canoe is also much easier.
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Post by: straitera on May 22, 2012, 02:18:00 PM
Ils son par tie. Dig canoes! Evidently Ron too. Always cool pix Ron especially the birch bark.
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Post by: NOMAD88 on May 22, 2012, 02:24:00 PM
Canoe or kayak they are both great ways to get to less hunted areas undetected.Canoe seems like it would definately be easier to get an animal out of the woods.
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Post by: chinook907 on May 22, 2012, 04:21:00 PM
Moose.
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(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh271/chinook907/rszdcanoe.jpg)
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: Day Dreamer on May 22, 2012, 06:06:00 PM
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq354/jandy2225/012.jpg)
(http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq354/jandy2225/008.jpg)

A great tool to futher expand the experience. I would like to get a Kayak, I think it would be more effecient (faster). Although in my canoe I have a lone wolf climber, and other gear, great for extra room.
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Post by: maineac on May 22, 2012, 06:28:00 PM
Great picts!  I have not canoed back to my favorite spot.  This is getting me fired up to scout it a bit and get ready for Oct..  Keep em coming!
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Post by: Orion on May 22, 2012, 08:47:00 PM
Love to hunt from canoes.  Do a lot of duck jump shooting from canoes.  Also use them to get into  hard to reach bow hunting areas.  Used one to get a deer out a few years ago.  I build and use wood and canvas canoes.  Nothing better, IMO.
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Post by: Mark Normand on May 22, 2012, 10:22:00 PM
At present this Native Ultimate 12 is my go-to paddler, but have and had other kayaks and pirogues.


Hey Kip, nice pics!


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Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: Ron LaClair on May 23, 2012, 09:30:00 AM
The end of an adventure

  (http://shrewbows.com/rons_linkpics/Moose%20float3.bmp)
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on May 23, 2012, 09:54:00 AM
I haven't used mine for hunting yet, but bow fishing it works great!

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bow%20fishing/SANY0002.jpg)

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Post by: collofthewild on May 23, 2012, 01:26:00 PM
I'm really enjoying this thread!
Keep it up  :)
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Post by: Danny Muzzey on May 23, 2012, 02:50:00 PM
Nice pictures, looks like a lot of fun too!
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Post by: South MS Bowhunter on May 23, 2012, 10:36:00 PM
Here a couple pic's and a short video from last year with good friend Kirk Barnard (Possum head).  He managed to shoot a good eater pig.

  (http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy235/jalmay5th/Pascagoula%20WMA/th_MVI_0428.jpg) (http://s795.photobucket.com/albums/yy235/jalmay5th/Pascagoula%20WMA/?action=view¤t=MVI_0428.mp4)

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Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: SELFBOW19953 on May 24, 2012, 09:50:00 AM
Daydreamer,

What brand of canoe is that?  Is it fiberglass?  How about weight and length?

Thanks.

Phil
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Post by: maineac on May 24, 2012, 09:54:00 AM
Ron you have some great picts with grander memories!
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Post by: gringol on May 24, 2012, 10:08:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by SELFBOW19953:
Daydreamer,

What brand of canoe is that?  Is it fiberglass?  How about weight and length?

Thanks.

Phil
looks like a Sportspal.  I've got one like that.  It's wider and more stable than most canoes.  The foam lining keeps is quiet, but falls apart with age.
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Post by: rushlush on May 24, 2012, 11:06:00 AM
Great pics guys! Keep them coming.
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Post by: SELFBOW19953 on May 24, 2012, 03:16:00 PM
Gringol,

Have you had yours out in the Gulf or Tampa Bay?  How do they manuever?  I have used Sportspals before and I remember them being sluggish, hard to manuever, especially in a wind or current, because they are wider.  I've got a 17' Grumman aluminum-just a shade long for a truck with a 6' bed.
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: owlbait on May 24, 2012, 03:19:00 PM
If your bow ends up at the bottom of a deep lake, will a salvage diver list it FOR SALE?   :dunno:
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Post by: TSP on May 24, 2012, 06:09:00 PM
Nice pics.  Would be curious to hear from those who've used short (12'-14') canoes for general 'one man' adventures.  My 16 footer (fiberglass, about 80#) is a bit bulky to handle/load for one person, thinking about a lighter 14 or even 12 footer for quick trips on mostly smaller waters.  Don't want to hijack the thread, but any feedback re the smaller designs is appreciated.
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: David Sapp on May 24, 2012, 07:06:00 PM
I have an Old Town Pack canoe in the 12' range, it's the angler edition with the lower seat. Good at fishing and piddling, but I'd rather be in my Wenonah Argosy 14' or so if I'm trying to put in a good day paddling. Either would be tricky shooting a traditional bow out of, at least for me.

Canoe/hull design is all about compromises, you exchange stability for maneuverability, length for glide, portability for durability, etc, etc. As an example, I've been researching composite/kevlar hulls for a general tandem and just when I think I've decided on a model that I want to find and paddle, it seems I read a review and change my mind. paddleswap.com can give you some good leads on local used boats in your area.

I love canoes and have 4 right now. I could have a barn full of them and still be looking for "just the right one".
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Post by: TSP on May 24, 2012, 08:18:00 PM
David, it just so happens that the Old Town Pack 12' is one that I've looked at on the web and it seems well-suited for one-man weekend trips.  The weight (33#) is surprising, almost TOO light for stability (?)  One to check out further.  The Old Town Discovery 119 is another that looks good, but with a smaller payload.  Both are kinda' pricey for a smaller boat, though.
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: ethan on May 25, 2012, 12:38:00 AM
Two things I love dearly!!  Canoes and stick bows.  I have an Old Town Discovery for tandem and a Mohawk solo 13.  Both have their place and both are great canoes.  But like David said, it's all about compromise on hull designs.  But if a guy isn't planning on taking alot of family trips, or having some one else in the boat it's hard to beat a larger solo canoe in my opinion.  I'd love to have about a 15' solo.  

I've paddled both of David's boats as well and the We-no-nah is got to be THE canoe to own as far as I can tell.  Just wish I could talk him out of it!!  ;)
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Post by: Auzoutdoor on May 25, 2012, 03:58:00 AM
I love my canoe and have shot a bit out of it.
Cheers KIM
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Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: gringol on May 25, 2012, 08:50:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by SELFBOW19953:
Gringol,

Have you had yours out in the Gulf or Tampa Bay?  How do they manuever?  I have used Sportspals before and I remember them being sluggish, hard to manuever, especially in a wind or current, because they are wider.  I've got a 17' Grumman aluminum-just a shade long for a truck with a 6' bed.
I've had it out in the bay.  I've shot ducks from it in the middle of the bay with a dog.  It's a bit of an adventure getting an excited, wet, 80lb retriever back INTO the canoe in 1ft swells after a retrieve, but I don't know another canoe beside my sportspal that I could do that in.  It may be a little sluggish turning, but it tracks well, fits a lot of stuff for a 12', and is super stable.  That's the trade-off with canoes, more nimble usually means less stable.  For me it's plenty nimble.

I've also done a bit of bow-fishing out of it, but I need to rig up some out riggers to really enjoy that.  I have no problem standing in the canoe, but I'm not a fan of standing, shooting, and reeling in a fish at the same time.  I'm thinking some 4" pvc tubes lashed to an aluminum pole or something...
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: David Sapp on May 25, 2012, 12:38:00 PM
TSM-
You should be able to look at the Old Town pack either at the Old Town factory itself, which is in Maine, or at the LL Bean store as it's a model they carry. It's a good knock around boat as it's weight and length is a godsend, but it's short length makes it paddle poorly over long distance. The 119 is similar but in a heavier lay up. Dicks Sporting good has a re-labelled house brand 119 that a lot of folks like for river fishing b/c it's tough as nails.
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Post by: iron_llama on May 25, 2012, 12:44:00 PM
I've got a Field and Stream Kay-Noe; it's a re-badged, cheaper version of TSP's Old Town Pack.  It's great for fishing and leisurely paddling, and I've taken it camping a few times.  That said it's really not set up for serious paddling.  It's too short to track straight and there isn't enough tumblehome (the gunwales are too far apart) to use a kayak paddle really effectively.  I'm saving my pennies for a Wenonah Prism or a Souris River Tranquility for serious Boundary Waters trekking.  

Anyone ever look at the Wavewalk kayaks?  There's a fella named Scott Johnson in Minnesota who shoots a recurve at deer out of his.

http://www.wavewalk.com/Kayak_Review_10.html

Looks promising...
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Post by: on May 25, 2012, 04:22:00 PM
I have a set of Spring Creek lashing bars, when we go carp shooting or perch fishing on a local busy motorboat choked lake our two canoes are as seaworthy as a pontoon boat.
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Post by: Ron LaClair on May 25, 2012, 09:20:00 PM
That's me in my 12' Custom built canvas canoe alongside a 26' replica North Canoe. The North canoe was the vessel that Canadian Voyagers navigated and carried fright on the smaller lakes and streams. Note the mast with sail in the front of the big canoe.

   (http://shrewbows.com/rons_linkpics/Lake_trip15.jpg)
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Post by: Brock on May 25, 2012, 09:54:00 PM
love my canoe for hauling camping gear or game...thinking about also picking up a fishing kayak sit on top...and most of them have good stability and some pretty good load limits if not carrying a lot of gear and just want to get in and out alone and stealthily.

safe paddling
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Post by: Grabwad on May 27, 2012, 05:40:00 PM
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y215/Grabwad/ADWMA1281014.jpg)

I  use a "pirogue" 90% of the time on the WMA I hunt!  It's a lot quieter than my mudmotor!.
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Post by: ms greenhead on May 27, 2012, 06:06:00 PM
Grabwad wheres the rest of your arras? Nice pirogue did you build it?
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Post by: tarponnut on May 27, 2012, 08:32:00 PM
I have a Native Watercraft Ultimate 12 kayak.
They are unique in that there are no decks fore and aft, so there is plenty of room for gear or a deer/hog. They are very stable and track well.  http://nativewatercraft.com/boat.cfm?id=5
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Post by: TSP on May 27, 2012, 08:43:00 PM
The pirogue is neat, and that's a nice buck too.  Never seen anyone go boating in a cornfield, though.  :biglaugh:  

David S., I bought my Dirigo kayak at the Old Town factory outlet and will likely check them out for a Pack if I don't find something used first.  Short canoes do look like they'd be nice for one-man stream paddles.  

Ron L., for a big guy that little canoe seems to ride pretty well.  Is that the Flintstone model?  For a second I thought I saw your legs sticking out the bottom...    :laughing:
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Post by: Grabwad on May 27, 2012, 10:12:00 PM
Missing arrows is a different but incredible story.  Shot that buck the night before and spotted a huge buck when I was paddling in the next morning to retrieve it.. Stalked with 10 yds of it bedded with a doe. Was kneeling in mud, water, and misting rain when the doe which was 5 yds away, busted out and the buck followed. I took a running shot but my string caught my raincoat. My arrows sailed right under his chest! I was sick for a few minutes but realized how special of an experience I just had! Someone killed him this year 173 2/8".
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Post by: Grabwad on May 27, 2012, 10:15:00 PM
Missing arrows is a different but incredible story.  Shot that buck the night before and spotted a huge buck. Stalked with 10 yds of it bedded with a doe. Was kneeling in mud, water, and misting rain when the doe which was 5 yds away, busted out and the buck followed. I took a running shot but my string caught my raincoat. My arrows sailed right under his chest! I was sick for a few minutes but realized how special of an experience I just had! Someone killed him this year 173 2/8".
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Post by: RLA on June 04, 2012, 12:18:00 PM
Very cool pic's, I think the Wildernss Systems Commander 120 or 140 would be a great hunting hybrid or the Native Watercraft U 12' or 14'.
For someone wanting to haul some gear in and a deer out with a nimble boat, look at these two.
I'm going to paddle a Commander 120 this week.


http://www.wildernesssystems.com/product/index/products/recreational/Commander/commander_120
http://www.wildernesssystems.com/product/index/products/recreational/Commander/commander_140

http://nativewatercraft.com/boat.cfm?id=5
http://nativewatercraft.com/boat.cfm?id=47
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Post by: bansheewins on June 04, 2012, 12:32:00 PM
I don't have one myself but this thread is great.  I love all the pictures and this sure gets me wanting to add this to my wishlist for sure.
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Post by: on June 04, 2012, 02:26:00 PM
RLA, when looking over the Commander web page, I notice that the max load is only 400 pounds. On many canoes the maximum load is the weight the canoe can hold with very little water line remaining.  It is often best to stay well below this if waves, cold water or hazards are expected. A 15 or 16 foot canoe can be paddled very quickly by one person with a longer kayak paddle and if shooting stability is what is desired, stabilizer floats work wonders plus they add a bit of capacity for solo canoes.  I had an ugly homemade set for my Wenonah Prism that would allow me to stand and shoot or fly fish.  Mine is up north right now, so I cannot take a picture but this is pretty much what mine looks like.
 http://store.springcreek.com/Stabilizer-Floats/Stabilizer-Floats/Spring-Creek-HD-Canoe-Stabilizers-w-UR-Complete-Package-p1580.html
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Post by: Orion on June 04, 2012, 02:50:00 PM
I have a 12 1/2-foot wood and canvas I'm willing to part with.  Rather wide -- 34 inches- which makes it nice for fishing, or jumpshooting ducks, even with a dog that likes to stand on the gunwales.  Nice for floating small creeks looking for bedded critters on the bank. Stable platform from which to shoot a bow. Carries a fair amount. Could probably even put oars on it.  Because it's short and wide, it's not good for straight ahead/fast paddling.  Used it to retrieve a nice buck a couple years ago. Don't know how to post the pix.  Get in touch if you're interested.
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Post by: TSP on June 04, 2012, 08:15:00 PM
I found a barely-used 12' 'Kay-Noe' over the weekend. Very affordable, in nice shape and with good reviews for a smaller canoe.  As mentioned earlier it's basically the same boat as the Old Town 'Discovery 119' and Dick's Sporting Good's 'Guide 119', and very similar to the Old Town 'Pack'.  

Took it out to a small lake friday and at only 43# or so (feels a bit heavier) it's a joy to load/unload compared to my old 16 foot fiberglass.  Not a 'comfort' boat but should do well for what I had in mind.  Will need to ditch the big crappy plastic seat for something more comfy that accomodates solo paddling better.  Should definately be fun to play with this summer.  

Time to get out a local map and see if there's some backwater honeyholes worth looking at for October.
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Post by: el_kirk on June 05, 2012, 01:03:00 AM
Drew an elk tag on the Green River Lakes in Wyoming in 2011. It was a great hunt with a bow, but a little warm for my tastes during archery season.  Saw tracks, rubs and lots of sign, but no elk during bow season.  

https://picasaweb.google.com/billingskirk/GreenRiverLakesElkHunt
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Post by: RC on June 05, 2012, 12:09:00 PM
I think the 119 canoe at Dicks sporting goods would be great. I love my yak for river running and fishing but hybrid would carry more stuff for an extended trip.RC
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Post by: bluegrassbowhunter on June 05, 2012, 01:15:00 PM
I've got a Guide 147 for me & my kids to mess around in & have a 119 for when it's just me..Haven't got to use the 119 much yet but what I have had it out it seems like it's gonna work just fine & can be modified in many way to work for hunter or angler.
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Post by: Scott357 on June 05, 2012, 01:21:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by TSP:
I found a barely-used 12' 'Kay-Noe' over the weekend. Very affordable, in nice shape and with good reviews for a smaller canoe.  As mentioned earlier it's basically the same boat as the Old Town 'Discovery 119' and Dick's Sporting Good's 'Guide 119', and very similar to the Old Town 'Pack'.  

Took it out to a small lake friday and at only 43# or so (feels a bit heavier) it's a joy to load/unload compared to my old 16 foot fiberglass.  Not a 'comfort' boat but should do well for what I had in mind.  Will need to ditch the big crappy plastic seat for something more comfy that accomodates solo paddling better.  Should definately be fun to play with this summer.  

Time to get out a local map and see if there's some backwater honeyholes worth looking at for October.
I have the Kay-noe too. I ditched the plastic kayak style seat ans got a canoe bench seat and installed it quite a bit lower than the stock seat was. I attach one of those padded seat backer things and it is very comfortable. I can get some pictures up of what I did if you are interested.
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Post by: Scott357 on June 05, 2012, 01:24:00 PM
sorry double post
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Post by: Archie on June 05, 2012, 01:36:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by iron_llama:
I've got a Field and Stream Kay-Noe; it's a re-badged, cheaper version of TSP's Old Town Pack.  It's great for fishing and leisurely paddling, and I've taken it camping a few times.  That said it's really not set up for serious paddling.  It's too short to track straight and there isn't enough tumblehome (the gunwales are too far apart) to use a kayak paddle really effectively.  I'm saving my pennies for a Wenonah Prism or a Souris River Tranquility for serious Boundary Waters trekking.  

Anyone ever look at the Wavewalk kayaks?  There's a fella named Scott Johnson in Minnesota who shoots a recurve at deer out of his.

 http://www.wavewalk.com/Kayak_Review_10.html  

Looks promising...
I think the Wavewalk kayak looks promising, too.  Can't carry a lot of weight, but much safer on the water (for solo hunters) than a traditional kayak, easier to stay dry, and a natural sitting or standing position to shoot from.  It has 14 cu. ft. of cargo capacity in the twin pontoons.  And if you need to go back the other way, you stand up, turn around and face backwards, and start rowing!
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Post by: John3 on June 05, 2012, 02:32:00 PM
My 12' Old Town Stillwater has been on many adventures. Wide stable and QUIET. Weighs less than 50#...

 (http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m123/JDS3_2006/Bowfish%20Floats/100_2354.jpg)


 (http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m123/JDS3_2006/Bowfish%20Floats/100_2410.jpg)
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Post by: str8jct on June 05, 2012, 02:56:00 PM
Hey Scott, I would like to see a pic of your customization.  I have that boat and was contemplating changing out the seat.
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Post by: Scott357 on June 05, 2012, 03:07:00 PM
Here is the Kay-Noe bench seat:

  http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa204/lakota222/IMG_20120605_150202.jpg

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Post by: Scott357 on June 05, 2012, 03:11:00 PM
Here is a close up of the mounting bracket. I bought the longest lowering kit I could find and I still didnt think the seat was low enough so I retained the original metal brackets that the factory plastic seat was mounted to. With the seat lowering kit the original mounting brackets let me get it lowered a few more inches.

 http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa204/lakota222/IMG_20120605_150214.jpg
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Post by: Scott357 on June 05, 2012, 03:14:00 PM
And here it is with the seat backer attached. This is a very comfortable seat and when you get to where you are going it doubles as a ground level chair. I also have a few fishing modifications but those arent archery related. PM me if you are interested in seeing them.
 http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa204/lakota222/IMG_20120605_150307.jpg
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Post by: Guru on June 05, 2012, 03:26:00 PM
This past Saturday...my son Cade...
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Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: str8jct on June 05, 2012, 04:27:00 PM
Thanks Scott
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: awbowman on June 05, 2012, 04:35:00 PM
Cade's DA MAN!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: TSP on June 05, 2012, 05:03:00 PM
Scott357, thanks for the pics, looks like you found something that works well for you.  I took the entire plastic seat off mine, including the metal brackets.  Aside from not liking the design, it just seemed like it used too much room.  Although sitting is definately more comfortable, I mostly like to kneel for better paddle control so am thinking of how best to set up for that.  Probably some type of knee pad and butt cushion arangement, with my back against the thwart (a piece of pipe insulation will go over that).  Will need to experiment a bit.
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: Scott357 on June 05, 2012, 06:32:00 PM
With that plastic seat in the Kay-Noe I always felt like my butt was going to slip off of it and wind up on the floor of the canoe and who knows if that would be enough cause me to dump the canoe and lose a bunch of gear? I dumped my old Coleman canoe in December years ago and even though it was only in water slightly higher than my waist it was a very "eye opening" experience!
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: Brock on June 05, 2012, 07:52:00 PM
lots of trade offs....lightweight usually means short length (hard to track straight) or loss of durability for the occasional gravel bar or hidden stump in low water.  My 166 Bell Northwind is inthe 65# range if remember right...which can be a little tiring on a long portage but the durability is worth it...and the bottom does not oil can with every ripple or brush with the bottom in shallow spots.
It is royalex but is very quiet though if I solo the wind can grab bow a little .....but canoes are the ultimate sport utility of the big woods and coastal flats.
that being said I plan on getting a fishing kayak for solo journeys but otherwise the canoe is my favorite all around vehicle in swamps, rivers, tidal creeks, etc...

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Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: RRock on June 05, 2012, 10:50:00 PM
I use a 17-1/2 wood and canvas canoe. It weights 74 pounds. They are alot tougher than you think and paddles like a dream. Noise is not a factor like you might find in a fiberglass or aluminum boat. It's about 34 inches wide and very stable.

Never figured out how much it will carry but plenty adequate for two guy's and all the gear that's needed for a week out and about.

If you've never paddled a wood and canvas canoe, give yourself a treat and try one. they will make you a believer.
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: Ron LaClair on June 05, 2012, 11:12:00 PM
This picture was taken about 40 years ago. It's me and my youngest Son the year I taught him how to trap. The canoe that we used to run our water line was a 15 ft. cedar strip with a carrying yoke and NO seats. We had to kneel in the bottom of the boat. It seemed a very natural method to handle a canoe but a little hard on the knees at times. It was better when we knelt on boat cushions.  

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Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: mrjsl on June 06, 2012, 09:53:00 AM
I see a lot of folks from my neck of the woods on this thread so I'll chip in. I have a Wenonah Adirondack - royalex. Very happy with it, and very glad I chose it over the Native and WS Commander. It will haul a lot of stuff and I do a lot of overnight camping in it as well as fishing. Quietest paddle boat I've ever used.

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Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: Keefer on June 06, 2012, 10:39:00 AM
Guru,
"LittleMan" Cade just sprung up a few feet since I last seen posts of him...That fella is growing like a Weed Curt! He's now a young man from what I see...  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: Guru on June 06, 2012, 12:19:00 PM
Thanx buddy, Yes he is growing quickly...but he's still only 11yrs. old and one of the shortest kids in his class.

He'll be 12 the day before our fall turkey and deer season this year and bowhunting for both this fall for the first time.

I don't know who's more excited about it...me or him!
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: RC on June 06, 2012, 01:29:00 PM
I look forward to some canoe/kayak tales on trad gang as deer season comes in. I also look forward to the tales of Curt and Cade.They gonna be good.RC
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: gio tundo on December 09, 2012, 03:22:00 PM
Anyone have any new pics to add to this old thread?
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: eflanders on December 09, 2012, 03:49:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by tarponnut:
I have a Native Watercraft Ultimate 12 kayak.
They are unique in that there are no decks fore and aft, so there is plenty of room for gear or a deer/hog. They are very stable and track well.   http://nativewatercraft.com/boat.cfm?id=5  
I recently bought this kayak late this Fall.  My intention was to use it for hunting as well as for fishing.  Unfortunately I didn't get it out for hunting this year yet but I definately will next season.  I did add a removeable spray skirt for the fore area on mine to help keep the legs a bit dryer and warmer.
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: gio tundo on December 09, 2012, 04:28:00 PM
Took my canoe out twice but with the smoke pole so can't post pics. Made me think of this topic.
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: creekwood on December 09, 2012, 06:12:00 PM
(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j456/jalariso/canoeBuck.jpg)

I have used a canoe to retrieve a deer or two, but have never hunted out of one.  This picture is a few years old.
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: Stumpkiller on December 09, 2012, 09:42:00 PM
More a bateau than a canoe, but it was for getting to a great spot.

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Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: chinook907 on December 09, 2012, 10:35:00 PM
That's a really neat picture creekwood !

Looks like I posted a canoe hunt earlier in this thread.  I also have a spot I hunt out of my 17' aluminum driftboat (McKenzie style).  Love rowing a driftboat on fast rivers, it's sort of the fly fishing of boating.  Here's a recent pic.
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Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: Rob W. on December 15, 2012, 02:33:00 PM
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee391/rjwalton8/P1010530.jpg)
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Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: piggy on December 15, 2012, 05:41:00 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/2piggy/Kifarupack.jpg)
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: str8jct on December 16, 2012, 10:01:00 AM
Piggy, You smuggling one across the border?  :biglaugh:  

Rob W-whats the rope along the left side for?
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: the elf on December 16, 2012, 11:51:00 AM
Rob W---what's the rope on left side of canoe for
X2.
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: David Mitchell on December 16, 2012, 02:50:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by the elf:
Rob W---what's the rope on left side of canoe for
X2.
Anchor rope maybe that can be pulled up or dropped from the rear seat???
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: Macca on December 16, 2012, 03:03:00 PM
Awesome thread, Luv some of those old pics Ron . Piggy you would not want to sit on one of those hooks  :)  i will try and dig a few pics up also .
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: Rob W. on December 16, 2012, 04:51:00 PM
That rope controls my front and rear anchor from the rear seat. I can drop single or double and drop double and slide canoe in between. I have a cleat to tie off both. One of my projects that actually works!  :goldtooth:
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: Scott S. on December 16, 2012, 05:13:00 PM
I've been wondering about the Beavertail Stealth 1200 and 2000 Duck boats -- especially for standing while bowfishing.  

http://www.explorebeavertail.com/sneakboats.html

http://www.basspro.com/Stealth-1200-Duck-Boat/product/42637/

http://www.basspro.com/Stealth-2000-Duck-Boat/product/64621/?cmCat=CROSSSELL_PRODUCT

Has anyone had experience with these?
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: Forester on December 16, 2012, 05:53:00 PM
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Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: gordydog on December 17, 2012, 08:01:00 AM
Here is Orion(member2759) in his homemade 12 1\\2 foot, 34" wide wood canoe. Hard to believe he is willing to let this canoe go.
(http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg565/gene167/WIBowHunt2008051_zpsdf8f4a71.jpg)
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: Tom Leemans on December 17, 2012, 10:36:00 AM
I have 3 goals in the not-too-distant future. To build a cedar strip canoe, and wood and canvas canoe, and a birch bark canoe.

I used to duck hunt and fish from a canoe the same size as the one above this post. Highly maneuverable! I really miss it. I also used to drift pass many deer on my way to the duck blind, and it never seemed to bother them. They would usually just stand there and watch me go by.
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: Orion on December 17, 2012, 10:47:00 AM
Yep.  I use canoes a lot for jump shooting ducks.  I've floated by a lot of nick bucks bedded on the banks.  Never bow hunted deer this way, but I have no doubt it would be effective.
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: Scott357 on December 17, 2012, 04:57:00 PM
Orion your canoe is a beauty.


Scott.
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: bartcanoe on December 17, 2012, 05:01:00 PM
Orion beautiful canoe, and the deer looks pretty good too.

I have a restored 1954 Old Town wood and canvas canoe although never used it for hunting.
Title: Re: canoes and bows
Post by: Bjorn on December 17, 2012, 06:38:00 PM
That is such an idyllic scene Orion!!   :thumbsup:    :thumbsup: