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Title: Why are my bareshafts shooting weak?
Post by: Moon on May 18, 2012, 09:08:00 PM
I shoot a recurve (widow pch) 60", 47@28.  I draw just shy of 29" and my carbon express heritage 250 30.5" bareshafts are shooting weak with 125 grain tip.  I'm getting the same results (weak) with same length bareshaft in a 2216 aluminum and Easton Axis 400 with a 125 tip.  I shoot 3 under with a deep hook.  

Do I need to go up in spine or why are they shooting weak since I don't shoot a heavy draw weight bow?

Any suggestions other than trimming my arrows or will cutting my arrows .25" make a difference?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Why are my bareshafts shooting weak?
Post by: Outwest on May 18, 2012, 09:20:00 PM
What are they doing to make you think they are to weak?

John
Title: Re: Why are my bareshafts shooting weak?
Post by: Warren Cowen on May 18, 2012, 09:25:00 PM
Most likely. I shot a PCH 43@28 58" My draw 29" I shoot a 2018 with a 125 grain tip. Good luck Warren
Title: Re: Why are my bareshafts shooting weak?
Post by: WESTBROOK on May 18, 2012, 09:26:00 PM
They are too stiff, if you get too stiff they will give a false weak indication. I would be trying a heritage 150 or some other 500 spine carbon, 2016 or 2018 aluminum.

Eric
Title: Re: Why are my bareshafts shooting weak?
Post by: Moon on May 18, 2012, 09:33:00 PM
As they hit the target they stick nock left (I am right handed).
Title: Re: Why are my bareshafts shooting weak?
Post by: SAVIOUR68 on May 18, 2012, 09:43:00 PM
Moon bare shaft your arrows to a couple that are fletched, i have a hard time thinking that the shafts are to weak. I live in NW San Antonio if you need any help and have a back yard to shoot over 80yds and have bags to bare shaft and also a jig to paper tune if needed.
Scott    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Why are my bareshafts shooting weak?
Post by: Cato on May 18, 2012, 10:06:00 PM
As Westbrook says, a shaft that is too stiff can bounce off of the rest and give a misleading weak look.  When that happens to me I also find its difficult to get the nock set perfect.  I am a three under guy and that may be part of it.
Title: Re: Why are my bareshafts shooting weak?
Post by: Friend on May 18, 2012, 10:56:00 PM
You may wish to try a 175 gn or possibly a 200 gn point on the Axis 400's.
Title: Re: Why are my bareshafts shooting weak?
Post by: cahaba on May 18, 2012, 10:59:00 PM
Heritage 150s with 200 gr. up front should be a good starting point. 250s are overspined IMO.
Title: Re: Why are my bareshafts shooting weak?
Post by: Moon on May 18, 2012, 11:11:00 PM
Thanks, guys.  I try all suggestions and see how they fly.
Title: Re: Why are my bareshafts shooting weak?
Post by: Medley on May 19, 2012, 12:09:00 AM
My release is not the same as yours, but we have tithe same bow, draw weight, and draw length

Don't look at charts, because BW does require a stifferr spine.

I found beman ics bowhunter 400 full length with 100gr tips or 29.5" 2018 with 125 tips to work the best. This is with using a cordovan tab.

Using any other tab or glove, the 2016
Title: Re: Why are my bareshafts shooting weak?
Post by: Pheonixarcher on May 19, 2012, 12:53:00 AM
I have had my best results tuning arrows by shooting through paper. Nock orientation in the target, alone, can sometimes be misleading. Point of impact with fletched arrows is much more accurate, than nock orientation. Shooting through paper always gets me closest faster. Your release may be to blame as well. A deep hook could be causing excessive roll off your finger tips. Good luck!
Title: Re: Why are my bareshafts shooting weak?
Post by: Pheonixarcher on May 19, 2012, 12:58:00 AM
And yes, a quarter inch can make a big difference. The closer you are to a perfect tune, the bigger difference it will make. Shoot through paper, and the shorter the tear gets, trim smaller lengths. Hope this helps.