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Title: Arrow's weight
Post by: Cinghiale on July 31, 2007, 12:58:00 PM
Hi guys,
I was reading about some one use a 700 grains arrow for Elk hunting.
My question is : How canI add weight to my arrow for more penetration ?
I shoot a 55# @28"  recurve with 2018 29" lenght shaft ( 357 grains from Easton chart ) equipped with a 190 grains Snuffer broadhead , plus 20 grains of insert  for a total of 567 grains , I have not idea about 5" feathers and nock's weight .
What have I to do ? More lenght arrow....or change to a 2020 ....?????  :archer:
Title: Re: Arrow's weight
Post by: Jason R. Wesbrock on July 31, 2007, 01:02:00 PM
If it's shooting fine, why mess with it?
Title: Re: Arrow's weight
Post by: Cinghiale on July 31, 2007, 01:20:00 PM
Yes it is shooting fine, I was asking because it seem to be more important weight instead arrow speed. I don't shoot a very speed bow and next season I'll use it on very hard to kill wild boars..not pigs....really wild european boars . Last season I don't recovered a big one so I'd like to eliminate most part of failures on the equipment.

Ciao
Title: Re: Arrow's weight
Post by: Jason R. Wesbrock on July 31, 2007, 01:24:00 PM
The first thing I'd suggest it comsidering a narrow 2-blade head, because a 55# recurve shooting well-tuned 567-grain arrows is more than enough to blow through a bull elk.
Title: Re: Arrow's weight
Post by: the Ferret on July 31, 2007, 01:28:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Jason R. Wesbrock:
The first thing I'd suggest it comsidering a narrow 2-blade head, because a 55# recurve shooting well-tuned 567-grain arrows is more than enough to blow through a bull elk.
Agree with Jason (he is a very knowledgable fella!) :thumbsup:  It will also anchor any size hog you want to shoot as long as you don't hit a large shield squarely. In that case, change shot angle and bring the shot from behind the ribs/shield to the opposite shoulder.
Title: Re: Arrow's weight
Post by: RamiusEng on July 31, 2007, 01:30:00 PM
Any idea on the speeds you are getting with 567 grain arrows?  Just wanna know because I shoot the same weight bow with the same draw.
Thank you in advance.
Title: Re: Arrow's weight
Post by: Cinghiale on July 31, 2007, 01:30:00 PM
Thanks Jason,  last season I shooted a 160 grains  RIBTEK , do you think is a good broadhead ?
I can get a really sharp edge with an Accusharp and it's strong enough to penetrate on a brik in the wall without big damage !!    :banghead:
Title: Re: Arrow's weight
Post by: Cinghiale on July 31, 2007, 01:32:00 PM
Hi Ray, no I have not Idea about the speed.
Title: Re: Arrow's weight
Post by: Cinghiale on July 31, 2007, 01:41:00 PM
Thanks Jason,  last season I shooted a 160 grains  RIBTEK , do you think is a good broadhead ?
I can get a really sharp edge with an Accusharp and it's strong enough to penetrate on a brik in the wall without big damage !!    :banghead:
Title: Re: Arrow's weight
Post by: Jason R. Wesbrock on July 31, 2007, 01:44:00 PM
I've heard a lot of good things about Ribteks, although, I've never used them myself.
Title: Re: Arrow's weight
Post by: Ric Anderson on July 31, 2007, 02:00:00 PM
I can't speak for the hogs since I've only killed one of them, but I do believe your equipment is adequate for elk.  3-1 broadhead designs such as Grizzles, have proven themselves in studies as well as in the field.
Title: Re: Arrow's weight
Post by: NorthShoreLB on July 31, 2007, 02:17:00 PM
RIBTEK are greeeat broadheads   :bigsmyl: ...shot thru a few pigs like butter.

1/4" plastic tubing that you can get at the hardware store will ad in the neigborought of 150gr.

....I would get those arrows in the 700gr range to, ..it can't hurt, well maybe the pigs   :bigsmyl:    :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Arrow's weight
Post by: carphunter100 on July 31, 2007, 02:18:00 PM
Sounds like you have enough weight. I shot a huge Bull Buffalo the only thing that stoped a pass through is I centered a rib on the exit side. I shot this buffalo with a 59 lbs. Morrison with a 2216 with a Magnus II with bleaders. The arrow weight was 536. I no an elk is not as big as a buffalo. I have never shot an elk but if I ever get a chance to elk hunt I belive I will go with a 2 blade.
Title: Re: Arrow's weight
Post by: Cinghiale on July 31, 2007, 02:52:00 PM
Sorry Jay, the  plastic tubing you are talking about is it the soft pvc  ??

Armando
Title: Re: Arrow's weight
Post by: NorthShoreLB on July 31, 2007, 03:13:00 PM
YEAH    :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Arrow's weight
Post by: Rick McGowan on July 31, 2007, 04:13:00 PM
Cingiale, are you sure your arrows are tuned for perfect flight? I would think that the 2018's with that much point weight would be a bit weak in spine. The reason I ask is that the soft plastic tubing will weaken the spine even more. Anything you add full length to the inside of the shaft, that adds weight, but has no spine of its own will weaken the dynamic spine of the shaft. The Ribteks heads are good and easy to sharpen, but weren't the best in the penetration tests I did. The 160 Grizzly or STOS did better.
Title: Re: Arrow's weight
Post by: Shawn Leonard on July 31, 2007, 08:18:00 PM
I agree with Jason as well and according to Dr. Ashby light arrow guys with high foc are gonna be happy, as it seems they are getting as good as penetration as some of the heavy arrow guys. Shawn