I got a new bow last week. Its a 64" Griffin thats 49# @ 28. I draw right at 30". So, I'm figuring the its 55# @ 30" for me.
I'd like to shoot some swedged aluminum this fall with 125g WW on the killing end. The arrow charts get confusing for me when I try to factor in my draw length and I'm not sure how of the size arrows that take swedging well.
I shoot the same setup as you, weight wise and draw length. 2018's fly great from my bows. Be aware though, don't order Legacy shafts for your draw length. Easton has shortened the length, and they're too short for me now. :banghead:
Bernie Bjorklund
NC Iowa/SW Wisconsin
I have shot a simular set up (little higher poundage) but with 200 grain heads and found 2216 to work GREAT. 2018 are a nice saft depending on the size and weight of broadhead. In my opinion anyway (from what I have found shooting BIG heads)with your lighter poundage 2117 may work well also.
QuoteOriginally posted by Bernie B.:
I shoot the same setup as you, weight wise and draw length. 2018's fly great from my bows. Be aware though, don't order Legacy shafts for your draw length. Easton has shortened the length, and they're too short for me now. :banghead:
Bernie Bjorklund
NC Iowa/SW Wisconsin
Yep I was sold on the 2018's and about to order them... then I noticed that they were just a tuck over 30".... that won't work for me.
I think the CEO of Easton is trying his best to get out of the aluminum arrow shafting business and he's going to succeed with his deliberate shorting of the shaft lengths from what is publicly stated on Easton's website. :(
Night Wing - I remember reading something like that on here. I don't understand it. Easton pretty much has a monopoly on aluminum shafts. I know all metals are expensive but still....
Any other recommendations out there?
:campfire:
The spec sheet on their website says they are 32.5". Where did you see 30" stated.
Eric
It doesn't help that each spine in each finish has a different "full length" measurement.
If you need a longer shaft, don't forget to look at bare xx78 shafts. There are less options for spine, but my 2117's come in at 33.25.
Thom
Eric- If you look at 3 Rivers you'll see they are shorter when you select them on the drop down arrow for ordering.
Thom- Are the XX78 worth the extra cost?
The last time I ordered Legacy shafting in 2018 the shafts I recieved uncut made finished arrows of 29 inches. I have been using vintage shafts for my aluminums and they make arrows over 32" if left uncut. Its a shame they are shorting them as aluminums are still the choice of price conscious accuracy fanatics. Luckily camo hunters still come in good length and variety for those who don't want to track down old stock.
I'd highly recommend the XX78 super slam shafts they hold up better than the xx75. I hunted with them for 15 years. another shaft that would work well for your weight and 125 grain heads is a 2016. They'll come in right about 500 grains too. perfect for a 49 pound bow. IMO
QuoteOriginally posted by Kirkll:
I'd highly recommend the XX78 super slam shafts they hold up better than the xx75. I hunted with them for 15 years. another shaft that would work well for your weight and 125 grain heads is a 2016. They'll come in right about 500 grains too. perfect for a 49 pound bow. IMO
even if i draw 30"?
When I was only drawing 30" I used xx75 GG for range/3d and xx78 for hunting only. Now I need the extra 3 inches of length so I really don't have much choice about the cost. Buying a dozen wood shafts then paying $5 each to have them footed makes them even more expensive.
Kirk, got your PM. I've been looking at those 32.5" carbons and I'm planning on getting a few to test with shortly. If I set them up they will be field tips only for range shooting. I'd hate to back a big nasty broadhead into this pretty riser :)
Thom
Thanks Blaino, found it. The 2020 is still the same it appears. My 2018 are 33", but they are a couple years old. I usually cut them around 30.5-31".
Been thinking about goin back to Heritage 150's, this might make me do it.
Eric
OK looks like the 2018 is now 30 3/8" and only available in xx75. Based on this, you can probably rule out new 2018s for your 30" draw.
The 2020 is also xx75 only, but ships at 32". Kirk mentioned 2016 which ships at 32" in xx75 and may work depending tip weight and shelf build.
My 2117s are 31 1/8" as a xx75, but 33 1/4" as a xx78.
I hope Easton doesn't mind but I took a screenshot (http://thomjorgensen.com/bows/Easton.png) from their 2012 catalog. I hope it helps people see what options and lengths are currently available.
I guess I better get serious about stockpiling arrow shafts before they get shortened up any more!
Thom
Blaino, the camo hunter comes in a 2115, almost identacle spine, just a little lighter.
Eric
Here's a spine chart that may help. Good luck!
http://web.archive.org/web/20071229024852/www.arrowsbykelly.com/Spine_Charts.html
QuoteOriginally posted by WESTBROOK:
Blaino, the camo hunter comes in a 2115, almost identacle spine, just a little lighter.
Eric
The 2115 Camo Hunter has been discontinued for many years now. I know it for a fact. I used to shoot it.
http://www.eastonarchery.com/arrows/alloy-xx75-camo-hunter/0/2
I think it's ridiculous that "we" can't get the arrows we want. Does any other arrow company make hunting weight aluminum arrows?
Does anyone know if the 2016's will take swedging well? I really like the simplicity of just glueing on a nock and a point!
For decades I've shot Easton aluminum arrows when Doug Easton was running Easton. Right now, with the present CEO of Easton at the helm, I definitely wish some "other" company besides Easton manufactured aluminum shafting to make arrows. :rolleyes:
I can see discontinuing some arrow sizes that didn't sell well. But, cutting the lengths shorter from the stated sizes on Easton's website, that's unethical and cheats the end user, you and me. With my long draw of 30" and shooting 32" BOP arrows with light weight recurves poundage wise, it's getting very difficult to find aluminum shafting to make arrows I/we.....NEED.
Doug Easton must be rolling over in his grave to what's been done to the aluminum shafting side of his business which he created and ran for many decades.
Another option is the 2020, they can be a little heavier than some folks like though.
I shoot a 60" Super Shrew, 48 @ 28 and I draw 29.5". I used a 30.5" 2020 with a 210g zwickey in the front for my Turkey arrow. They shot very nice...all 660g worth.
Eric
QuoteOriginally posted by Blaino:
QuoteOriginally posted by Kirkll:
I'd highly recommend the XX78 super slam shafts they hold up better than the xx75. I hunted with them for 15 years. another shaft that would work well for your weight and 125 grain heads is a 2016. They'll come in right about 500 grains too. perfect for a 49 pound bow. IMO
even if i draw 30"? [/b]
i draw right at 29" and cut my shafts 29" and used 160 grain WW screw in broadheads with a 53 pounds. i would think adding an extra inch and backing off to 125 grain points should be pretty close to the same set up....
but a lot of arrow spine calc's depend on the how much snap the bow has, and the shelf cut out. in your case you would be a bit on the weak side with an extra inch of draw, bur you should be able to pad your strike plate to adjust for it i would think.
You know what i used before was a glue on adapter that screws into the insert and the 125 grain glue on WW head. by the time it's all said and done you have about 150-160 up front and can switch out your broad heads and field points. 150 -160 up front on that 2016 is decent FOC for good arrow flight too.
are you dead set on the swedged aluminum?
No I'm not dead set on swedged arrows. I do like'em a lot though.
I haven't ever had to build out me side plate.... I'm going to get one 2016 and give it a shot.
If you are interested in swaging you should call Mikes Archery. To my knowledge that is the only outfit still offering the service and they would be able to give you a definative answer. I've also never asked if they will swage a nock end.
I think I have some 2115 shafts, shoot me a PM if you would like me to look for them.
QuoteOriginally posted by bigbadjon:
If you are interested in swaging you should call Mikes Archery. To my knowledge that is the only outfit still offering the service and they would be able to give you a definative answer. I've also never asked if they will swage a nock end.
The Footed Shaft did my last batch.
Thats good to know. I've bought stuff there before but was unaware they offered that service.
yep i think it's like $1 each....