Trad Gang

Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: wapiti792 on April 30, 2012, 02:06:00 PM

Title: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: wapiti792 on April 30, 2012, 02:06:00 PM
Back from S. Carolina and I had a blast! I want to thank Terry Green for the opportunity to hunt as he drew my name for the contributor hunt. It was an honor to be there as part of the contributors. I wish I could have done better...but I will get to that.

The Good:
The beautiful terrain, the swamp, the critters that live there, Ray's cooking, my campmates (who I hope chime in), and having a bow in my hands moving form tree to tree with a feeling of total freedom.

 (http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/Swamppics004.jpg)
*The swamp, with it's old cypress and oak hammocks

 (http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/Swamppics008.jpg)
 (http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/Swamppics007.jpg)
*Swamp flowers of unknown name were everywhere.
 (http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/Swamppics031.jpg)
*A holey old cypress
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: wapiti792 on April 30, 2012, 02:12:00 PM
More good...

(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/Swamppics020.jpg)
*An angel in the swamp
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/Swamppics029.jpg)
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/Swamppics026.jpg)
*Multicolored lizards of varying shapes. My daughter would love to catch these!

Ray Hammond is a good cook as is my new friend/campmate Kip. I didn't lose any weight on this trip and wished I had taken some pics of the food. I was too busy eating to find my camera.

I could barely hunt for snapping pics of the great trees in the swamp however. This midwestern fella is a bit jealous of all those ancients.
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/Swamppics032.jpg)
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: Terry Green on April 30, 2012, 02:20:00 PM
:campfire:
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: wapiti792 on April 30, 2012, 02:21:00 PM
The Bad: 95 degree temps, skeeters that bleed ya, Ray's singing, a certain Canadian's snoring, and things that crawl instead of walk. All in all not bad if you like Teddy Pendergrass, hypovolemia, and bow backings.

(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/Swamppics001.jpg)
*Teddy save us from this man and teach him some new words.
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/Swamppics002.jpg)
*Left to right: A snorer, a chef, and a shoat wisperer.
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/Swamppics013.jpg)
*I stepped on this fella. He didn't bite me and I didn't kill him. He agreed not to bite me when I came back through in the dark, and I agreed not to eat him and make him decorate one-half of my bow. I have a scar from one of these from 15 years ago and decided they love me...they really do love me.
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: SheltonCreeker on April 30, 2012, 02:34:00 PM
So far I have to agree with all that has been said. You take the lead and Ill chime in when appropriate as I hope the other camp mates do as well.
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: Ric O'Shay on April 30, 2012, 02:37:00 PM
Mike -
Nice pictorial and explanation of each shot. Waiting on the hog pics and hoping the copper colored critter doesn't craw out of my pc.    :scared:
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: rushlush on April 30, 2012, 02:39:00 PM
:campfire:
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: wapiti792 on April 30, 2012, 02:44:00 PM
Bear with me folks...Photobucket tilts things then tilts them back at times.

A little more bad...

(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/Swamppics012.jpg)
Agkistron contortrix aka copperhead. Only saw 2 snakes this trip and Ray is right. Between the pigs, birds and king snakes a poisonous snake doesn't last long.

(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/Swamppics009.jpg)
*Don't know whose chair this was in the swamp but I took a nap here to escape the heat...right after I busted a giant boar out of his bed. I had the wind, he had the cover, and as the downed tree exploded with pig and I checked my shorts it dawned on me that pig huntin' is nothing like I have done before and you need more underwear on trips than normal.
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: SheltonCreeker on April 30, 2012, 02:49:00 PM
I honestly have to say I haven't had as much fun as I did at Rays in a long time. I'm sure some would think we were crazy for sneaking around a heat sweltering swamp with stick and string. But I absolutely couldn't have been happier. First and foremost I have to say my thanks to Mike for inviting me along on this trip to enjoy his good fortune of winning this hunt. Second I would like to thank Ray for being such a great host and Third thanks to Kip, Shaun, Berry and Joe for making this trip something I will never forget. I'm as excited about the rest of this thread as anyone! The terrain and the game at Rays is unlike any other Ive ever experienced. I'm not 100% what a shoat wisperer is Mike could you elaborate for me? I'm sure its a good thing haha.
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: eminart on April 30, 2012, 02:50:00 PM
Looks like fun. Thanks for not needlessly killing the copperhead.
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: KOOK68 on April 30, 2012, 02:51:00 PM
Is the Kip you refer to Kip Manuel from Louisiana?
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: wapiti792 on April 30, 2012, 02:55:00 PM
More good...ahhh I digress. After Dave (Sheltoncreeker)consulted the ariel photo gods we struck out on a plan to try a little finger out from hog lake into the Savanah River. It turned out to have great sign and river cane that a fella aught not try and stalk through less he wants a face full of pig or gator before he can draw.

So we made a new plan. Hunt the root sign nearby and let the cane be the cane. As we rounded a bend slowly glassing he grabbed my arm. "Pig". He had the stalk and I backed him up with camera.
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/Swamppics034.jpg)
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: Ray Hammond on April 30, 2012, 03:05:00 PM
Yes it is Kip M and if you ever get offered a plate of his crawfish étouffée and you don't take it someone should slap you!  

I thought I could cook til I tasted it- wow!!!
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: Ray Hammond on April 30, 2012, 03:12:00 PM
If u get the chance to hunt with kip, sean sullivant, mike davenport David gage joe caba or Barry marontate do it

They are all the kind of guys you want as hunting partners !
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: wapiti792 on April 30, 2012, 03:12:00 PM
I got to witness something cool  :)  Dave jump in and tell it from your end. I watched a "train" of shoats walk out into the road and they sounded like D5 cats winding up for some dirt work. I had a hard time keeping the camera still as I watched the little fellas size up Dave. Here are some intersting pics:
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/Swamppics036.jpg)
*A piglet train
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/Swamppics035.jpg)
*Lead little piggy giving the once over to Sheltoncreeker.
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/Swamppics037.jpg)

After awhile momma showed up and let them know they were being bad, not noticing the hunter near her babies or the idiot grinning from ear to ear with the camera. Dave did the noble thing and let momma have a pass. Proud of ya bud   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: tarponnut on April 30, 2012, 03:18:00 PM
Great storytelling as always Mike!
Keep it coming, I'm home with a sick kid.
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: SheltonCreeker on April 30, 2012, 03:24:00 PM
I made the comment to Shaun in camp that a pig was a pig not matter the size and I was shooting it. That was until..... that little fella in the front there lead his siblings in the cutest little pig train you could imagine. Me and Mike were stalking up the road kinda stair stepping each other (and occasionally cursing the wind) when I saw a little black flash dart across the road.  I told mike what I had saw and he told me it was my stalk. So I start easing that way with the hopes that bigger pigs may be close. As I got well within bow range the little fellas were still in the cover. They were making all kinda of noise leading me to believe that nothing else than the largest pig to ever be seen at Rays must be just behind that bush. Well it wasn't long and what i had made out in my mind to be HAWGZILLA revealed itself to be these little porkers. It was as awesome of an experiece as one can have. Small or not wild game is wild game and to see them doing what they do and acting the way they do was something I won't soon forget. These little guys moved like a school of fish darting from one way to another and when they got as close as they could would all look up with just their eyes without moving there heads. Now you talk about funny. These guys were sure I was nothing more than another funny looking tree but werent sure I could be trusted. Once the sow showed up it was over just as quick as it began. How cool was it to have your buddy over your shoulder to catch something like that on camera! Awesome. I'm glad everyone gets to share in that experience thanks to mike.    :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: steadman on April 30, 2012, 03:27:00 PM
Awesome Bud!!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: wapiti792 on April 30, 2012, 03:37:00 PM
No biggie Brother...I was just happy to there  :)

Ray, appreciate that! I had a good time with these fellas. Thanks again for being a great host. I love your place and can't wait to see it again!

So, end of the shift for good and bad...we finished our evening hunt with grins as big as saucers and made our way back to camp to eat some of Ray's good cookin' (pot roast...WOW was it good!) and to enjoy our campmates company. What gents we had there. Dandy fellas all!
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: wapiti792 on April 30, 2012, 04:03:00 PM
The Ugly

I hate losing game. I hate missing my spot. I have been so fortunate to not have lost many animals that I have shot. It hurts to write this but it is hunting. The ugly is painful but I want to learn from this...I want others to learn as well.

On a stalk hopping from downed treetop to downed treetop the first day a sudden burst from my right revealed a group of hogs running from Dave's advance. Suddenly there were pigs running straight to me from the other direction. I had to make a quick decision to nock up, pick a spot and let loose if I chose. I chose poorly...or I didn't do the most important thing in my opinion: PICK A SPOT!

After reading and re-reading Terry's pig shot tutorial I should have known better. The spot was behind the shoulder but too far back. I got a complete passthrough and thought I was golden. I was not. A nightmare tracking job insued and I am sad to say that after a quarter mile I lost my small eater pig to the swamp. Dave helped me with my track and when the light ran out so did the blood.
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/Swamppics017.jpg)
*The first blood looked good but soon went dark.

So, I held the ugly card. I will remember this day and will learn that a pigs vitals is not a deers vitals...that a 60 pound pig is pound for pound the toughest critter on the planet. No way a deer holds that arrow and never beds, never slows, and walks to the swamp away from trouble and into trouble.

So that is it. My tale of Good, Bad, and Ugly. Thank you Terry for the chance to hunt, thank you Ray for being a great host, thank you Tradgang for reading this yarn, and thanks to my new friends from camp. It was an honor to be with you on this trip.
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: SheltonCreeker on April 30, 2012, 04:10:00 PM
I have to say of the wounded pig. We searched and researched the area. I know it was hard on Mike as any hunter, but that is hunting and I know my friend has learned a great deal from this shot as did I. It doesn't make the unrecoverd animal any easier but it definatly doesn't make the it a total lose. Keep your head up my friend you are one of the finest people Ive ever stepped into the woods with.
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: Joeabowhunter on April 30, 2012, 07:23:00 PM
I'm not the Canadian that snored so loud the walls shook but I did bring him and new well enough to bring ear plugs so we BUNKED together.......Ray need not comment on my choice of words this time!  Anyway, to Ray, Mike, David, Shawn, Kip and even the human chainsaw Barry it was a pleasure to share a camp with all of you and I hope we will be able to hunt together again.  Mike, thanks for taking and posting these pictures.  I was too wound up to take my own so I will enjoy yours.  I have to say my hunt was a success even though I don't have any meat for the freezer.  I did have a group of 3 young/small boars at 5 yards in a mud wallow that I was able to watch for about 10 minutes.  I passed on them hoping for a chance at a bigger pig but it wasn't to be....that's hunting.  I saw one other nice pig that busted me way before I ever saw it.  Hunted with Ray and Barry on Sunday morning and was able to stalk within 15 yards of 3 bedded deer on the river bank.  I actually only saw one ear twitching in the tall grass until they busted out.  I saw many armadillo's (that sound like pigs rooting through the tall grass), some turkeys, a gator and thankfully no snakes or other biting critters that Ray was happy to keep warning us about ACTUALLY I think Ray kept directing that stuff to me for some reason.  Oh yeah and the food was great thanks to Ray and Kip.
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: Whip on April 30, 2012, 07:44:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Ray Hammond:
Yes it is Kip M and if you ever get offered a plate of his crawfish étouffée and you don't take it someone should slap you!  

I thought I could cook til I tasted it- wow!!!
Truer words were never spoken (or written)  I've been there and done that, and I can say I sure hope I get to do it again someday!

Sounds like a great trip for all involved.  I'll be in that area in another week on the Bacon Strip and hope to do half as well as you fellows did.  Thanks for wetting my appetite - Great story telling!
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: BOWMARKS on April 30, 2012, 08:43:00 PM
Sounds like a good time was had for all!!  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: awbowman on April 30, 2012, 08:52:00 PM
That was one huge copperhead, and yes those LA boys can cook!
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: Bud B. on April 30, 2012, 09:04:00 PM
Excellent thread and photos.

I gotta keep saving for a return trip  :)
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: on April 30, 2012, 09:25:00 PM
Sorry you lost your pig but it sounds like a great experience at Ray's!

Bisch
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: straitera on April 30, 2012, 09:43:00 PM
Raggedazz to lose game & hard on the soul. I know. Thanks Mike for being man & hunter enough to explain your sympathies.

Snakey swamp hog hunting is sure exciting sometimes especially for you Yankee boys. Better luck next trip. Looks like a great place to hunt with great TG friends making it all the better! Pic & story thanks.
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: Kip on April 30, 2012, 09:59:00 PM
I am not a Turkey hunter or a cook    :o      :o      :o   but hope to change the first soon.I think I will have some turkeys on huntable property fairly soon so I need to learn how to hunt them,I could not have picked a better couple of great turkey talkers,bowhunters,campers,teachers,and all around great guys that I had the pleasure to spend a long weekend with.I offered my wife to go to Savannah for a few days (brought her sister to keep her company while I hunted)and would also make a detour to spend a great weekend with Ray and his guest Joe and Barry from Canada,Mike and David from Illinois and Shaun from Virigina.Ray tried his best to put me on birds and Mike gave up his last morning to call in a bird for me but the Manuel curse again did not fail me.Saw birds,heard them gobble but no cigar walked up on hens saw plenty of other wildlife,beautiful swamp,good food.As I get older the experience and comraderie of meeting bowhunters from all over makes me smile.Ray you made this old fart happy.Kip
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: DesertDude on April 30, 2012, 10:01:00 PM
Thanks for sharing.......
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on April 30, 2012, 10:18:00 PM
:campfire:     :coffee:  

good stuff so far!
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: wooddamon1 on April 30, 2012, 10:20:00 PM
Sounds like a great hunt!    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: Jwilliam on April 30, 2012, 10:22:00 PM
Thanks for taking us along.  :thumbsup:  Guess I need to get to Ray's in the near future !!!


Bill
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: smokin joe on April 30, 2012, 11:15:00 PM
Great photos of a great place. Thanks for sharing with us.
Joe
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: turkey522 on May 01, 2012, 09:52:00 AM
Great story and pics,thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: Mrx2010 on May 01, 2012, 01:07:00 PM
I don't know what you guys are talking about, but I didn't hear any snoring.  Ray was an awesome host and while I've hunted with Joe for 27 years it was great to share camp with Kip (thanks for the crawdad and the seasoning) Shaun, Dave, Mike and Ray.  Food was great and the company couldn't be beat.  Ray is a great host who really cares that everybody has a great time.  I made a good stalk on a group of pigs and promptly shot right over their backs and as you can see no one has mentioned it since.  I hope we all cross paths again.  Barry
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: wapiti792 on May 01, 2012, 01:49:00 PM
Ahhhh meanin' to tell ya Barry...I think you need one of them fighter-pilot masks like Ray has. It's a win-win you see...you get to get over your sleep apnea AND shoot down migs all night when you are sleepin'   :p  

It was a great crew there. You take 2 "different" Canadians, one coon-ass cajun, one by-God marine, one Yankee, and one born-in Tennessee but living in Illinois confused as hades bowhunter and put them in camp together and see what happens...enough where we aught to do it again  :)
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: Ray Hammond on May 01, 2012, 01:57:00 PM
That's cause you WEREN'T snoring Barry! You were just breathing very heavily-most of the time.

I do need to hammer in all the finishing nails on the wall paneling, but then again its an old trailer, so there you go, eh?

Thanks everyone for all the nice comments.  I enjoyed having you down/up, as the case may be!!
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: sticksnstones on May 01, 2012, 04:46:00 PM
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r296/wapiti792/Swamppics037.jpg)

So I'm looking at this picture and I'm wondering if these are the same friendly pigs I saw last month?

Here's me and Ray and the five little pigs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS5k1x8vINM&feature=plcp  

Sorry the helmet cam is so wide angle, it was my first time using it so I didn't know how close to get.
Thom
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: wapiti792 on May 01, 2012, 04:49:00 PM
Well if it was near Hog lake possibly...I would have thought they'd have grown quite a bit since though. Who knows...I kinda wanted Dave to scoop one up for a mascot but I figured that would be wrong with us being hardcore bowhunters and all  :)
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: joe skipp on May 01, 2012, 04:54:00 PM
......and Ray says the hogs eat all the snakes...
  :rolleyes:    :saywhat:
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: awbowman on May 01, 2012, 04:58:00 PM
Kip Manual says he can't cook?  HMMMMMMMMMMM, then please sir give me the name of your chef!

I haven't met someone from Louisiana that can't cook .....  in fact, we don't allow it, at least not at deer camp!
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: sticksnstones on May 01, 2012, 05:21:00 PM
These guys were over by the landing, and there were 5 of them so probably a different group. These guys were smaller than the sub sandwiches I eat for lunch!
Thom
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: maineac on May 01, 2012, 08:00:00 PM
Sounds like a grand time, thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: SheltonCreeker on May 01, 2012, 10:46:00 PM
Yeah probably different pigs. You know I woke up out of a dead sleep last night could have swore I heard Ray singing Teddy's Turn of the Lights!
Title: Re: The Good, the bad, the ugly at Ray's This Weekend
Post by: Bel007 on May 01, 2012, 11:21:00 PM
Mike... told ya.  Ray's is the place to chase pigs.  Glad you had a great trip, sorry 'bout the one that got away.  'nother day perhaps.

 :thumbsup: