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Title: BW silencing tip
Post by: bowhunterportugal on April 30, 2012, 07:04:00 AM
Hi gang,

Just got a BW PSA V.

In the first shots it seemed a little noisy! After applying some wool string silencers it got a lot better.

When comparing with a one-piece it sounds louder. Anyone experienced this?

Any tip to silencing it? Should I install a wool "serving" to the loop ends?
Title: Re: BW silencing tip
Post by: Gen273 on April 30, 2012, 07:18:00 AM
Yes, every BW I ever had was a little loud, but adding a wool wrap at the ends of the string will help.
Title: Re: BW silencing tip
Post by: A.S. on April 30, 2012, 07:20:00 AM
Here's what I do, and my Widow is whisper quiet.

First, use a good quality, skinny string with padded loops. Then I use two small sets of catwhiskers placed 9 and 15" from the string ends.
Title: Re: BW silencing tip
Post by: cacciatore on April 30, 2012, 07:35:00 AM
A.S. makes the string you really need,your BW will change its sound and more performances too.
If you make a search this is what most Widows? owner do,myself as well!
Title: Re: BW silencing tip
Post by: on April 30, 2012, 08:12:00 AM
Ditto the skinny string-- SBD makes a great one, complete with wool silencers and end wraps installed.
Title: Re: BW silencing tip
Post by: Russ Clagett on April 30, 2012, 09:05:00 AM
An SBD string will make that a different bow...

Much quieter.
Title: Re: BW silencing tip
Post by: JRY309 on April 30, 2012, 09:45:00 AM
I had a BW SAV,I made up a 8 strand padded loop D97 for it,50#@26 bow.Put on Bow hush and 1/2 a hush puppy,I would get comments on how quiet it was.
Title: Re: BW silencing tip
Post by: bowhunterportugal on April 30, 2012, 10:04:00 AM
A.S.,

you recommend a skinny string so you can wrap the ends with wool and secure that the string doesn't come of the groove?

I've tried 2 small wool silencers at those places but it didn't work as well as the original spiders that come with it.

With a 14 strand string is it risky to try and wrap it with wool?

Thanks
Title: Re: BW silencing tip
Post by: bowhunterportugal on April 30, 2012, 10:46:00 AM
How does the brace affects the noise? Higher brace = less noise?

What is the normal sweet spot on BW PSA brace? Anyone knows this?
Title: Re: BW silencing tip
Post by: Steelhead on April 30, 2012, 12:05:00 PM
I like a skinny 6-8 strand string as well on BW with D-10 or astroflight material.Wool puffs and a brace hieght of about 9 inches from throat of grip to the string.
Title: Re: BW silencing tip
Post by: A.S. on April 30, 2012, 01:25:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by bowhunterportugal:
A.S.,

you recommend a skinny string so you can wrap the ends with wool and secure that the string doesn't come of the groove?

I've tried 2 small wool silencers at those places but it didn't work as well as the original spiders that come with it.

With a 14 strand string is it risky to try and wrap it with wool?
Thanks
I personally don't wrap my string ends with wool. I have done it in the past with standard size (14 strand) strings and had no problem with the string staying in the limb groove.
Title: Re: BW silencing tip
Post by: bowhunterportugal on April 30, 2012, 01:27:00 PM
Sorry, I didn't knew what padded loops are. Already google it!
Title: Re: BW silencing tip
Post by: LBR on April 30, 2012, 02:38:00 PM
I've seen (heard) a huge difference in noise just by replacing the (factory) 14 strand non-padded loop Dynaflight '97 string with a 12 strand padded loop Dynaflight '97 or 8125.  One small set of cat whiskers was all that was needed.

As with any bow, proper tuning is a must for the quietest shot.  I prefer tinkering with the brace height first, to find the "sweet spot".  The add silencers, and adjust them to find their sweet spot.  Moving the silencers an inch or so up or down the string can make a big difference.

Proper nock fit makes a difference--very tight nocks can add noise, plus tuning problems.

Shoot at least 8 grains per lb--heavier will be quieter.

Work on your form--a sloppy release will add noise.  A clean release is quieter, plus you get better performance, better arrow flight, more tuning lee-way, etc.

Chad
Title: Re: BW silencing tip
Post by: bowhunterportugal on May 05, 2012, 12:42:00 PM
Well gang, let me tell you, I simply changed the O-rings and it's a complete different bow. So quiet now...

The old O-rings where completely flat, almost letting the limb to touche the riser.

Thanks
Title: Re: BW silencing tip
Post by: A.S. on May 05, 2012, 03:33:00 PM
That is awesome Diogo.

Hopefully you are still excited to get the new strings....   :goldtooth:
Title: Re: BW silencing tip
Post by: bowhunterportugal on May 05, 2012, 03:50:00 PM
Not a chance Allen, I look forward to get them.
Title: Re: BW silencing tip
Post by: finkm1 on May 05, 2012, 06:22:00 PM
Is your Black Widow new? I have a new PSA X and it is a little loud. I have been tinkering with it. I was thinking of changing the string. I just put a new B-50 string from 1st class strings on my Bob Lee and I can't believe the difference. It is dead quiet and fast.
Title: Re: BW silencing tip
Post by: bowhunterportugal on May 05, 2012, 06:31:00 PM
Finkm1,

No, it's a 2009 bow. I bought it 10 days ago.

Look at the O-rings. Mine came completely flat and the bow was loud. I bet the limb was smacking the riser although it didn't left a single scratch. Today I've changed the o-rings and, like I said, it was a different bow. No noise that bother me at all and much less vibration. The o-rings are sure there for a reason...

I also ordered some new strings, skinny with padded loops. Don't have them yet so can't tell you how well they will work but I believe they will bring the noise to virtually no noise level and get me some more fps.

Hope this help.

Diogo
Title: Re: BW silencing tip
Post by: bowhunterportugal on May 05, 2012, 06:33:00 PM
Finkm1,

No, it's a 2009 bow. I bought it 10 days ago.

Look at the O-rings. Mine came completely flat and the bow was loud. I bet the limb was smacking the riser although it didn't left a single scratch. Today I've changed the o-rings and, like I said, it was a different bow. No noise that bother me at all and much less vibration. The o-rings are sure there for a reason...

I also ordered some new strings, skinny with padded loops. Don't have them yet so can't tell you how well they will work but I believe they will bring the noise to virtually no noise level and get me some more fps.

Hope this help.

Diogo
Title: Re: BW silencing tip
Post by: finkm1 on May 05, 2012, 08:04:00 PM
My bow is 2 months old, the O- rings should be good. I have not over tightend the limb bolts. I sent a e-mail to bearbowman of 1st class strings. I will probably order a new string.
Title: Re: BW silencing tip
Post by: darin putman on May 05, 2012, 10:38:00 PM
Skinny string from SBD Pierre makes em silent you make em DEADLY, I'm a believer!!!!