I read that a few folks here use them, has anyone ordered from them lately? I ordered a pair of Bush Boots from them about a week ago, and haven't heard anything from them! Are they still in buisness? I've read nothing but rave reviews about them, and am looking forward to a pair of bush boots!! Thanks!!
1st of all don't panic,, I've been to the shop and that place look like it wasn't going anywhere and even look liked it was already there a hundred years. with that being said they never once in my life returned an e-mail ever even when I knew they where open so forget that.
try calling them on the phone and if thats a problem PM me you ordering info (name, type of mocc and size) and I'll call them for you and check because they always answered the phone when I called.
if they are making your moccs from stock (did you send a drawing of your foot?) waiting a week or two isn't bad, I think I waited 3 weeks for my dyers, arrows I buy off the wall so I can try them all on.
I was told 6 weeks 2 years ago and got them in 4 weeks. They had to be made due to my size. The quality is outstanding I wore them today in fact. You are dealing with a quality craftsman it will be worth the wait.
I think I waited about 4 weeks for my first pair and 7 or 8 weeks for a 2nd pair that I ordered concurrently with some mukluks. The mukluks took a bit longer, I believe. They are worth the wait. I wear mine about 90% of the time all day every day - my favorite footwear. Just remember that whatever time they spend on the phone is time not spent making your moccasins.
I just got another pair about 2 weeks ago.
They will answer the phone when you call most of the time. My moccs came in about 4 weeks.
Outstanding craftsmenship.
CTT
Did any of you guys get the bush boot? Thought about the 3 lace one, but thought the higher one would be better for me! Are they lined with anything, it's hard to tell from the pics? Will try to call them! Thanks!!
I would just call them. When I called the owner Paul answered the phone, he told me that he had my size in stock. He shipped them right out and I had them the next day. Granted I am in the same state that they at located. I love my moccasins, I went with the lace boot.
Call Paul.
Martin
My sons paid for a pair of the double sole lace boots for me for Christmas. By the time I placed the order, sent a drawing of my foot print (I highly recommend)w/ favorite Smartwool socks on and received my boots was several weeks. Well worth the wait. I did communicate by email with him concerning a question I had on a leather treatment product that I wanted to use. It took a follow up call to get a response from him by email on the particular product, but he did reply. These guys build a great product, I just think they are old school and don't rely on the techy stuff unless necessary (I wish I could escape it too).
I'll bet your going to love your new foot gear.
It takes a few weeks, but I own two pair of shoes from them. Absolutely wonderful. You cannot go wrong with these guys.
QuoteOriginally posted by wixwood:
My sons paid for a pair of the double sole lace boots for me for Christmas. By the time I placed the order, sent a drawing of my foot print (I highly recommend)w/ favorite Smartwool socks on and received my boots was several weeks. Well worth the wait. I did communicate by email with him concerning a question I had on a leather treatment product that I wanted to use. It took a follow up call to get a response from him by email on the particular product, but he did reply. These guys build a great product, I just think they are old school and don't rely on the techy stuff unless necessary (I wish I could escape it too).
I'll bet your going to love your new foot gear.
Talked to someone there today, and he told me I didn't have to send a tracing of my feet, as long as I had normal feet. Is the product you refer to, Obenauf's? I use that on all my leather stuff, and asked him about it. He said someone sent him a list of the ingredients, and he said it should work well. Will even ship via USPS to Canada, since us Canucks get raped by UPS! Looking forward to my new Bush Boots!!
I just got the Lace boot(3 hole) I really like it so far. I doubt you can find a better made mocc.
I also have a pair of the French Canadian boots. I like it as well but it is a bit small for me so I may end up selling them.
I really like what they do at Arrow Moccasin. Old school all the way,top of the line moccs.It will be worth a little patience and follow up to get a pair. I called and asked some questions twice and sent my order in after the second time. One month later I had a pair of custome made moccs.
No lining in my lace boot. Just the ruff side of heavy leather. BUT, after a few days of wear, it feels just fine and I kinda like the way it grabs my foot. A nice pair of medium weight wool socks and your feet will be cozy all day. Even tho the leather is heavier than anything you have in a shoe right now,it is not a hot shoe. Your feet will stay comfortable all day. No sythetics to sweat your feet up. I have since added a pair of our insoles and that is working out really well. Very happy about my moccs
CTT
Chuck, your(Chris) inserts have solved all kind of problems in several of my boots.
Yeah they have. I use them everyday. I need to get a pair of arrow mocs!
Matt, You will not regret it. They are great foot gear. I can't bare the thought of jamming my foot into a shoe/boot that is covered/lined with plastic/rubber/synthetic stuff to ruin my hoof. We all need to go back to natural materials when and where we can. I may even have to start shooting wood arrows again. And wood bows???
Oh! now look what I strated.
Bruce, I tell you what, That is the truth right there. We made the first insoles about 5-6 yrs ago and my first pair solved a sore foot problem that had nagged me for almost a year.
Thanks for the feedback you two,
CTT
I know they have saved me more than once.
Lets see some pics of these arrow mocs! :)
Also, if you are still shopping around, check out www.russellmoccasin.com. (http://www.russellmoccasin.com.) I stumbled on them when I was researching for a pair a couple years ago. They got rave reviews. The wait is forever, but they are probably about as custom as it gets, unless you make them yourself. If I recall correctly, the measurement process on the buyers end, was pretty detailed. Led me to believe they would fit like a glove. She wasn't too keen on the thought of me spending 200 bucks on some slippers, so I never got them. Maybe one day.
This is both of my pair. The shorter ones are 2weeks old. The tall ones are 15years old. I wore them a good bit for the first couple years then they got packed away during a move from MT. and I just got them back out. They are sheep fleece lined and very comfy to wear. Other than they no longer fit me. With wool socks and the fleece,they will keep you warm. I used to mush our dog team with them on but they are really to slick for snow. I wish I would have known about the Arrow Mukluks back then. Arrow will put a crepe sole on any mocc tho. I may get some with a crepe sole for town use. Arrow is just great to work with and order from. I have heard some bad results with Russell.No first hand experiance tho, And they are really nice looking and well made from the pair I looked at. I was alway nervous to spend that money from the stories I heard.
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Two Tracks, your mocs look good. Arrow should use pics of worn mocs on their website. They look better than fresh ones...
Anyone try Arrow's Ligonier mocs?
I like the look AND feel of broke-in moccs.
I did a google image search awhile ago and got some good pics to look at.
Never used the Ligonier
I really like the look of the tall ones. Does the leather stay put once laced up or do they tend to slide down? I don't recall reading many negative reviews of the russells. Maybe things have changed.
Jorja, This was a number years ago that I looked into the russells,do a search on here and see what you can find. About a year or so ago some guys had some info to share.
The super soft moosehide(I think) on the top stays put pretty good. I wrap them around my leg and then criss-cross the laces about 4-5 times and then tie snug. Then I roll or fold the top down to cover the knot. The whole "legging" will sag a bit but nothing to bother over. I wore them to WY on an antalope hunt one year. I didn't get to hunt in them but I did do a fair bit of walking and scouting with them on. It sure feels good on the feet.
I just got done mowing my yard with my new moccs on, They should be just about right for turkeys next week and deer this fall. I want a couple more pair. These are some fine footwear.
CTT
I have the same mocs. I love them!
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Here are the bottoms! I wear them everywhere. I like them with wool socks.
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Next pair I will get a little larger to wear them with wool insoles.
Martin
I will have to check those out, Man those look comfortable!
Anyone have pics of mocs with a crepe sole? I think they would offer additional protection and footing while maintaining feel. Thanks!
Can't be resoled with a crepe sole! I am going to do the Barge Cement/recycled tire crumbs thing when I get mine!! They told me to keep it off the seams, and it would be fine.
How are these moccs around thorny stuff, like briars, brambles, green briar, cactus, etc?
Never wore mine in the cacti Phil. I do have some pokey stuff around here though and so far so good. The double sole is THICK,
Bill, where do you get the tire crumbs?
That is the one draw back to the crepe sole,you cannot getthem resoled do to the construction method.
I called a local tire recycler, and they sell it by the 40 lb. bag ($8.00). It comes anywhere from .25" od crumb, to powder. Now granted 40lb is waaaaaaay too much for what I want, so I'm going to see if I can "convince" them to part with a safeway bag full. If I have to buy 40lbs, oh well, it's only $8!!
I have 2 pairs of the 3-eyelet style like Chuck's. The first pair fits good with a lightweight pair of wool socks. I decided I liked them so well that I ordered another pair a half size larger so that I could wear them with a thicker sock for cold weather. They are extremely comfortable; I wore mine last year when backpacking for elk - worked great. I have a pair of slip-on "Totes" rubber overshoes for when the ground is real muddy or snowy and a pair of "Neos" high-top overshoes if the snow is deeper.
I have some of the tire crumbs, also, but have not tried them on the Arrow mocs. I used them on a cheap pair of Ataska mocs I had a couple of years ago, but it does tend to stiffen the sole a little bit and you lose some ground feel. Once you get used to the great ground feel you won't want to give it up. I've scrambled around in blackberry brambles and other brushy terrain and not had a problem with anything punching through the leather - It's pretty thick and tough.
I have also gone the Russell route - I have 2 pairs of them. I think the Arrows are a better value, but I still use the Russell occasionally when I need a little more traction (I have the Newporter sole on one of the Russells). For overall comfort and everyday wear I don't believe you can beat the Arrows. I measured very carefully per the Russell instructions and they still came out too large, so I have to use the thickest wool sock I have and even then they are a little loose in the heel area. Considering that the Russell are "made to measurement" I still get a better fit with the Arrow mocs - perhaps because they mold to the foot so well.
I also have a couple pairs of SoftStar "Runamocs" that have great ground feel with the 2 millimeter street soles. The sole is an extremely tough rubber composition made by Vibram and makes these shoes water proof on the bottom, at least. I use them as a minimalist running shoe. They look kind of funky, but are pretty useful and not too expensive. They totally let your feet splay out and be natural.
These flat-bottomed, no-heel shoes are all I wear any more and it has cured all the foot problems I have had in the past.
I been to the Arrow shop a few hundred times and although small and old Ron took a lot of pride in his products. I have known people that have worn his mocs for many years without a problem...PR
QuoteOriginally posted by Greg Skinner:
I have 2 pairs of the 3-eyelet style like Chuck's. The first pair fits good with a lightweight pair of wool socks. I decided I liked them so well that I ordered another pair a half size larger so that I could wear them with a thicker sock for cold weather. They are extremely comfortable; I wore mine last year when backpacking for elk - worked great. I have a pair of slip-on "Totes" rubber overshoes for when the ground is real muddy or snowy and a pair of "Neos" high-top overshoes if the snow is deeper.
I have some of the tire crumbs, also, but have not tried them on the Arrow mocs. I used them on a cheap pair of Ataska mocs I had a couple of years ago, but it does tend to stiffen the sole a little bit and you lose some ground feel. Once you get used to the great ground feel you won't want to give it up. I've scrambled around in blackberry brambles and other brushy terrain and not had a problem with anything punching through the leather - It's pretty thick and tough.
I have also gone the Russell route - I have 2 pairs of them. I think the Arrows are a better value, but I still use the Russell occasionally when I need a little more traction (I have the Newporter sole on one of the Russells). For overall comfort and everyday wear I don't believe you can beat the Arrows. I measured very carefully per the Russell instructions and they still came out too large, so I have to use the thickest wool sock I have and even then they are a little loose in the heel area. Considering that the Russell are "made to measurement" I still get a better fit with the Arrow mocs - perhaps because they mold to the foot so well.
I also have a couple pairs of SoftStar "Runamocs" that have great ground feel with the 2 millimeter street soles. The sole is an extremely tough rubber composition made by Vibram and makes these shoes water proof on the bottom, at least. I use them as a minimalist running shoe. They look kind of funky, but are pretty useful and not too expensive. They totally let your feet splay out and be natural.
These flat-bottomed, no-heel shoes are all I wear any more and it has cured all the foot problems I have had in the past.
Just Googled Neos. Looks like a real good idea!! Which ones did you buy? Insulated or not insulated? Can you still "feel" the ground? Like yourself, I too have gone the "barefoot" route! Can't believe the difference! I thought about the possibility of the glue and tire crumbs making the sole stiffer, and thought that instead of gluing the whole sole, just putting a band of it across the balls of your feet, and a bit on the heel. I read in Fred Asbell's book that is what he does to his mocs.
QuoteOriginally posted by SELFBOW19953:
How are these moccs around thorny stuff, like briars, brambles, green briar, cactus, etc?
Don't know about Arrow's mocs, but a buddy of mine had a pair of mocs soled with rawhide. They held up really well in cacti. It's a plains Indian method...still not as puncture resistant as boots, but it keeps you awake while you walk...
Bill, I got the uninsulated model "Voyager". You lose alot of ground feel and they are also noisy to walk in, so not the best option for actual hunting, but there are times that they are necessary. I use the "Totes" overshoes more than the Neos. If I want to hunt in the snow then I use the Arrow MukLuks but they are too warm for early season around here.
I've read Asbell's remarks regarding the tire crumbs and thought about trying it that way, too, but I'm not so sure I would like that either. I can feel anything that gets stuck on the bottom of my mocs - even a flat piece of chewing gum, so I fear that if I didn't get an even coating it would feel weird. Mixing the tire crumbs with the barge cement and applying with a knife like the Sodhopper website shows seems like the best option if you want something besides the leather sole. When one of my pair of Arrows gets old and worn out I may go ahead and try that anyway.
Two Tracks, I like those 3-hole lace ups. How water proof are they?
I have not had them out in the water yet(altough I have a superb opportunity right now,BIG storm)
I would say they are as water proof as a well treated pair of leather shoes/boots can be.
I will be applying Montana pitch blend as needed.
Good to hear. I'm talking myselfinto placing an order
QuoteOriginally posted by TxAg:
Good to hear. I'm talking myselfinto placing an order
If you want it more than 3 times, then you need it!! Go for it!!
QuoteOriginally posted by TxAg:
Good to hear. I'm talking myselfinto placing an order
If you want it more than 3 times, then you need it!! Go for it!!
I have walked in wet grass, rain and puddles. I have never had my feet wet in them. The pair I have are the double sole. That's a half inch of leather curled up the side and it is one piece.
I have not had a problem with water. I treat them like any other leather shoe. I don't play in the water but it won't stop me from going out in it.
Martin
I really don't want to sound like a salesman,
BUT,I wear a light wool sock with our felt insoles and any water/moisture that does come into play is not even noticed.The fact that the moccs have no rubber/sythetic in them at all means they will breath and disipate the moisture better and this means your feet will thank you at the end of the day,and all day long.
I wish I would have been into moccasins all my life. All natural is the way to go.
CTT
Spoke with them today. Got a pair coming in 3 weeks!
QuoteOriginally posted by TxAg:
Spoke with them today. Got a pair coming in 3 weeks!
Which ones? I can totally see myself getting a pair of 3 lace boots sometime in the future!
quote:
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Originally posted by wixwood:
My sons paid for a pair of the double sole lace boots for me for Christmas. By the time I placed the order, sent a drawing of my foot print (I highly recommend)w/ favorite Smartwool socks on and received my boots was several weeks. Well worth the wait. I did communicate by email with him concerning a question I had on a leather treatment product that I wanted to use. It took a follow up call to get a response from him by email on the particular product, but he did reply. These guys build a great product, I just think they are old school and don't rely on the techy stuff unless necessary (I wish I could escape it too).
I'll bet your going to love your new foot gear.
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Talked to someone there today, and he told me I didn't have to send a tracing of my feet, as long as I had normal feet. Is the product you refer to, Obenauf's? I use that on all my leather stuff, and asked him about it. He said someone sent him a list of the ingredients, and he said it should work well. Will even ship via USPS to Canada, since us Canucks get raped by UPS! Looking forward to my new Bush Boots!!
Sinawalli,
The product was Obenauff' and I too am a fan of this product on all my leather.
You are going to love your moc's
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Found these on ****. What do you guys think? A good idea?
QuoteOriginally posted by sinawalli:
QuoteOriginally posted by TxAg:
Spoke with them today. Got a pair coming in 3 weeks!
Which ones? I can totally see myself getting a pair of 3 lace boots sometime in the future! [/b]
Yep, the lace boots with a double sole.
I didn't have to send a tracing. I wear a EE in athletic shoes and a D in dress shoes. The dress shoes aren't very comfortable, though. He suggested an E since his version of an E is comparable to everyone else's (import) version of an EE.
I wear an 11 in atheleic shoes and a 10-10.5 in dress shoes. He suggested the 10.5 as they'll mold and stretch to your foot.
They have a good exchange policy and relatively short wait time so I was fine with his recommendations.
I just ordered a pair of the three eye double sole and they had my size and they will be shipped Monday
I think this thread is going to cost me some money. :banghead:
QuoteOriginally posted by ranger 3:
I just ordered a pair of the three eye double sole and they had my size and they will be shipped Monday
You need to go buy a lotto ticket. Its your lucky day
I agree with you Rob W. I've been wanting a pair of Arrow Mocs forever!!! I may just have to break into the piggy bank and order a pair.
I also just ordered a pair of double sole lace boots. Ive been wanting a pair for a long long time! :pray: :pray:
I have a question. For those who have them when do you recommend the single sloe and when the double. Thanks
I have had my double soled lace boots for a year. Wear them daily. Great buy that I expect to last for years. Wear them on concrete, asphalt, ground etc. Just don't drag your feet and the bottoms will see no wear.
Converml, I can't tell you about the single sole, but the double soled lace boots are great. You still have a lot of ground contact and can feel anything.
I wore two pair of thick socks for several days with them to break them in, then only one pair. I wear the short (just above the ankle) sports socks, wool, cotton, all work well. The most comfortable are the smart wool socks.
Billy
QuoteOriginally posted by Converml:
I have a question. For those who have them when do you recommend the single sloe and when the double. Thanks
I'm not much help since mine haven't arrived.....but i got doubles since i live in cactus country.
Thanks Billy. Does anyone have single and a double to compare stalking in both? Thanks
I have the single sole version, and they are still plenty thick, unless you are in serious cactus country (Sonoran desert, south Texas comes to mind). I can still feel the ground through the single sole; they are nice for stalking, but slippery on wet grass.
I got a call from Paul this morning just to confirm my order and CC number. Good news.......they have my size and style in stock and they will ship TODAY!
I think single sole will give you better feel for the ground but I think the double will work well also. I wanted the double sole so that I could send them back to be resoled! I'm going with that theory. (:
According to the web site and talking with Paul today the single sloes are resoled as well. He said if I started out with a double I couldn't go back to a single but if I start with single and feel I want a double sole that was easier. So I reserved the single sole today. O well see.
QuoteOriginally posted by Converml:
According to the web site and talking with Paul today the single sloes are resoled as well. He said if I started out with a double I couldn't go back to a single but if I start with single and feel I want a double sole that was easier. So I reserved the single sole today. O well see.
Why do you want a single sole, as opposed to a double?
I must have misunderstood what I read. That's good to know. I thought the double sole would protect my foot better. The single sole is a quarter of an inch thick. The double is twice as thick.
I like what I have. (:
You will not be disappointed with what you have ordered.
Martin
I wanted something I could wear around the house and stalking. I figured 1/4 inch was pretty thick unless I walked a gravel rd. 1/2 in I figured was a lot of leather for just what I was going to do. I was glad to hear if I felt I needed the double sole he could add with no problem.
QuoteOriginally posted by Converml:
I wanted something I could wear around the house and stalking. I figured 1/4 inch was pretty thick unless I walked a gravel rd. 1/2 in I figured was a lot of leather for just what I was going to do. I was glad to hear if I felt I needed the double sole he could add with no problem.
I agree 100%, you got the best of both worlds! Myself, I went with the boot, solely because the terrain I hunt is more conducive to a boot. I see Dyer offers a 5 hole boot, but I ain't Bill Gates!! These are by and far the best bang for ones buck IMHO!!
Yea up here there are no thorns like Arizona / Texas . Mostly during hunting season it's dry leaves and branches. In in the hardwoods of upstate NY and when I say upstate I don't mean Albany, NY keeps going past that 4 hours to the Canadian border/ saint Lawrence river. I'm only 5 min from the border near Cornwall so my main concern is being quiet when it's dry out. When it's raining and the leaves are wet it's not bad but walking through dry maple leaves even a light cover on a trail you might as well be blowing a trumpet around. Anyway I'm happy with the decision. The money order should be there tomorrow. So in some odd weeks. :pray:
QuoteOriginally posted by Converml:
Yea up here there are no thorns like Arizona / Texas . Mostly during hunting season it's dry leaves and branches. In in the hardwoods of upstate NY and when I say upstate I don't mean Albany, NY keeps going past that 4 hours to the Canadian border/ saint Lawrence river. I'm only 5 min from the border near Cornwall so my main concern is being quiet when it's dry out. When it's raining and the leaves are wet it's not bad but walking through dry maple leaves even a light cover on a trail you might as well be blowing a trumpet around. Anyway I'm happy with the decision. The money order should be there tomorrow. So in some odd weeks. :pray:
My MO got there on Monday. My sister used to live in Cornwall, so I know the area you speak of. Plan to use mine with a pair of goretex socks, as it can be wet up here in Sept. Will use them along with my usual Bean Boots.
That should work well I ordered 2sets of wool inserts from Two Tracks so even when they get wet wool is still warm.
Hey Chuck, I just ordered a pair of Arrow Mocs ,and my wife is interested in a pair. She would like to know if you or anyone else out there could take a photo with just socks , to see if mocs would look alright with shorts. Thanks. :wavey: :wavey:
They would look fine with a pair of black socks women wear that go just below the ankle for the short mocs. For the higher ones just a pair of crew socks and you would never see the socks.
QuoteOriginally posted by TxAg:
Spoke with them today. Got a pair coming in 3 weeks!
Well, they beat 3 weeks. They arrived today so that makes 17 days from order to door step.
I've never had moccasins before. So far, I'm impressed and intrigued...
The leather looks thick and of high quality. The double sole is more than enough to stop these pesky cactus thorns. The stitching looks bomb proof, and to top it off, I think I ordered the perfect size.
I'm looking forward to breaking them in. I've only been wearing them for about 5 minutes now indoors.
My only complaint is that I wish they were about an inch higher around my ankles. I've got the 3-hole lace up boot.
Maybe I'll have some pics tonight.
Edit: I applied Snow Seal (very liberally). After wax each moccasin weighs exactly 18.5 oz. I'm wearing a 10.5 E
Yes...pics please. A pair of these are on my list!
You'll have to excuse the white legs. I'm wearing them with shorts around the house, haha.
From the front
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From the inside
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From the back
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From the outside
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moccasins look good how do they fit with the wool sock on
Thak you very much for the pics (my wife's waiting to get her mocs.) I got mine a couple weeks ago, very well made!!! :thumbsup:
QuoteOriginally posted by skilonbw:
moccasins look good how do they fit with the wool sock on
Wool Socks are the only way to go, Your feet never felt so good at the end of the day.
CTT
QuoteOriginally posted by skilonbw:
moccasins look good how do they fit with the wool sock on
It was 90* here today, and I wore them for a few hours with the wool socks in the pics above (medium weight). My feet weren't too hot. I can't get over how comfy these are and they're not even broken in yet.
I anticipate that I'll always wear these with socks...whether heavy weight or light. What I'm wondering is how do the Canoe Moccasins hold up to being worn barefoot? Yes...I already want another pair, haha.
Those are sweeeeet!
My Arrow Bush Boots arrived today! OMG! I don't see how these folks stay in buisness! If these things wear out before the year 4000, I'd be amazed! The most sturdiest boot I have ever seen! The uppers are at least .25" thick! Might be a bit to break them in, but they are still comfortable, sole is at least .5" thick as well! Very simple design, nothing special, but amazing craftmanship! The Abrams tank of footware!They said 3-4 weeks, and it took just over 2! Highly recommend these guys!!
They're nice aren't they
How tall are the Bush Boots? Are yours lined?
QuoteOriginally posted by TxAg:
They're nice aren't they
How tall are the Bush Boots? Are yours lined?
They are a bit taller than a pair of Bean Boots, about 10". They are unlined. For the price, I can't see why anyone would go with Russells or Dyers or Quoddy!
Guess I'll have to get a pair- nice
Anyone have any experience wearing these with no socks? As in barefoot?
I'd like to get the canoe mocs but don't want to wear socks. I'd hate for them to get stinky/slippery/etc inside after some use.
QuoteOriginally posted by TxAg:
Anyone have any experience wearing these with no socks? As in barefoot?
I'd like to get the canoe mocs but don't want to wear socks. I'd hate for them to get stinky/slippery/etc inside after some use.
I don't see a problem with that. I wear Red Wing work boots that are straight leather, no lining, bare feet, all the time, but my feet don't smell, I think it's only me and the queen of England that are like that!! I use those "sneaker balls", and it works out well. Do plan to wear the Arrows bare feet, only when it's warmer.
QuoteOriginally posted by sinawalli:
QuoteOriginally posted by TxAg:
Anyone have any experience wearing these with no socks? As in barefoot?
I'd like to get the canoe mocs but don't want to wear socks. I'd hate for them to get stinky/slippery/etc inside after some use.
I don't see a problem with that. I wear Red Wing work boots that are straight leather, no lining, bare feet, all the time, but my feet don't smell, I think it's only me and the queen of England that are like that!! I use those "sneaker balls", and it works out well. Do plan to wear the Arrows bare feet, only when it's warmer. [/b]
I'll wear my lace boots with socks always, but I've been eyeing the low top style canoe mocs for around the house/town. I figure if they'll last forever then the price is justified. It's hot here, so I'd be wearing them as "loafers" or "boat shoes" without socks for a good 8 months out of the year.
you guys ever have trouble with traction? I hunted in moccasins one season -- granted single sole -- and slipped and slided all over the place especially early mornings when there was dew or damp grass. But the terrain was steep and rocky...they were quiet, though.
QuoteOriginally posted by Harleywriter:
you guys ever have trouble with traction? I hunted in moccasins one season -- granted single sole -- and slipped and slided all over the place especially early mornings when there was dew or damp grass. But the terrain was steep and rocky...they were quiet, though.
About to find out! I live north of you, and will be hunting in very similar terrain! Might try the glue/tire crumbs trick! Were your feet dry?The only change I would make in the Bush Boots is make it a full bellows tongue.
They are great mocs, but they are like any other moc, they are slick when you are on a wet surface.
Update! I wore them once, right out of the box, and was surprised at how comfortable they were! They were stiff, but nothing nasty! treated them with some Obenauf's, and wore them again a couple of days later, with even better results! I don't think they will take long to break in despite how thick they are.Just put a layer of tire crumb/contact cement on them, and am waiting for it to dry! Looks like I will have to get myself a pair of Lace Boots as well! Just got off the phone with Paul, and will get the ball rolling on that!
Make sure you give us a report on the tire crumb stuff. My 3 eye mocs are about 3 weeks old and I try to wear them as much as I can. So far I love the feel and comfort. I am constantly amazed at how tiny stuff is that I actually feel through the sole.
Right Pete, I can feel the ground with every step. I love it. You have tremendous feel but nothing to hurt my tenderfeet.
I really do like these moccs,
X2 still loving mine
Update! Bush boots are breaking in very well! They are getting more and more comfortable! The tire crumb sole was a great idea, I wore them the other night in a rain storm, walked on some grassy slopes and traction was very good. Still feel the ground quite well, but the increase in traction makes up for the bit of ground feel you may lose!
Can you guys please post a couple pics of these mocs.
QuoteOriginally posted by chadt1:
Can you guys please post a couple pics of these mocs.
Mine are on page 5
http://www.arrowmoc.com/mocasins.html
Right there!!
QuoteOriginally posted by TxAg:
QuoteOriginally posted by sinawalli:
QuoteOriginally posted by TxAg:
Anyone have any experience wearing these with no socks? As in barefoot?
I'd like to get the canoe mocs but don't want to wear socks. I'd hate for them to get stinky/slippery/etc inside after some use.
I don't see a problem with that. I wear Red Wing work boots that are straight leather, no lining, bare feet, all the time, but my feet don't smell, I think it's only me and the queen of England that are like that!! I use those "sneaker balls", and it works out well. Do plan to wear the Arrows bare feet, only when it's warmer. [/b]
I'll wear my lace boots with socks always, but I've been eyeing the low top style canoe mocs for around the house/town. I figure if they'll last forever then the price is justified. It's hot here, so I'd be wearing them as "loafers" or "boat shoes" without socks for a good 8 months out of the year. [/b]
So,...I pulled the trigger on a new pair. Got them in 2 weeks.
Here are a few pics if anyone else is thinking about getting a pair. I like them a lot so far.
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(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-lEmrOFfFe_A/UFJp8cSRN2I/AAAAAAAADS4/jWTBNFrbXF4/s800/IMG_0841.JPG)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JjbLf9Fidmk/UFJp8aebMyI/AAAAAAAADS0/e7ZXB5F03GU/s800/IMG_0842.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-q4aJDaBiGzw/UFJp9HIXC-I/AAAAAAAADTA/XBrixknBNlg/s800/IMG_0843.JPG)