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Title: sealing wood arrows
Post by: old bucky on April 28, 2012, 11:45:00 AM
The minwax polycrylic, can you use the dip tube and rubber gasket,or must it be wiped on.

Thanks Sam
Title: Re: sealing wood arrows
Post by: wooddamon1 on April 28, 2012, 11:52:00 AM
The Minwax wipe-on that I use is polyurethane, so I'm not sure about the polycrylic stuff. You can get Minwax stains that also seal the wood before adding a finish that just wipe on, though...

Post some pics of your finished arrows for us to enjoy when you're done!    :campfire:
Title: Re: sealing wood arrows
Post by: Tree Killer on April 28, 2012, 11:54:00 AM
I just keep it warm (room temp), use the dip tube and let it drip. Fine steel wool between the first and second coat. Then a third coat over the crest makes for a great finish.
Title: Re: sealing wood arrows
Post by: old bucky on April 28, 2012, 12:44:00 PM
Thanks for the info.

Sam
Title: Re: sealing wood arrows
Post by: lpcjon2 on April 28, 2012, 01:00:00 PM
Whatever product you use dont short cut the drying time.
Title: Re: sealing wood arrows
Post by: moththerlode on April 28, 2012, 01:02:00 PM
I sure like the wipe on poly .. been thinking of a dip tube also to make it faster and easier. Is there anything better straight out of the can ?
Title: Re: sealing wood arrows
Post by: luvnlongbow on April 28, 2012, 01:09:00 PM
Don't know about better, however Pro-Fin is great straight from the can. From can to dip tube no issues.
Title: Re: sealing wood arrows
Post by: Green on April 28, 2012, 01:53:00 PM
Another fan of Profin.  However I thin mine about 10-15% w/paint thinner.  Very hard, durable finish if you let it cure correctly.  

I thought I was getting target burn on some arrows about a month ago....turned out the target material was just setting on top of the finish like the scratch off stuff on a lottery ticket.  Came right off with a fingernail.
Title: Re: sealing wood arrows
Post by: Dave Bowers on April 28, 2012, 05:15:00 PM
I use sanding sealer first; usually bout 8 coats. Then 5-6 coats of poly
Title: Re: sealing wood arrows
Post by: joe skipp on April 28, 2012, 07:38:00 PM
After staining the lower portion of my shafts, I lightly sand, then hand rub in a good coat of Minwax Polyurethane. After drying, lightly sand between coats and add 4 more coats of Minwax, each a little thicker. Sanding in between coats. I find this gives me the best seal and totally waterproofs them.

Top 8" I dip in Bohning Super Coat after I thin it out. Dip twice, lightly sand then apply my first coat of white paint. Second coat is Hot Pink, let dry thoroughly. Crest and fletch....
Title: Re: sealing wood arrows
Post by: Orion on April 28, 2012, 08:39:00 PM
Old Bucky.  I've use polycrylic as a dip.  Did not use a gasket, however. Worked OK.  My guess is it would work OK with a gasket as well.  Probably need  a few more coats though.
Title: Re: sealing wood arrows
Post by: old bucky on April 29, 2012, 08:34:00 AM
Thanks everyone for the info.

Sam
Title: Re: sealing wood arrows
Post by: Rob DiStefano on April 29, 2012, 08:49:00 AM
i like things as simple as possible, and ditto's for making woodies.  right onto the raw wood, 3 to 4 wipes of right-outta-the-can minwax gloss polyu, with 0000 steel wooling 'tween each coat.  wool the last coat to kill the gloss shine if need be.

k.i.s.s. is good!   :D
Title: Re: sealing wood arrows
Post by: rustyspike on April 29, 2012, 08:49:00 AM
As said. Let them dry. Longer the better. Most people rush this process.

I have used a couple of differnet sealers.

Raptors I like the best. (sponcer here)

http://www.raptorarchery.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=146_123&products_id=285

Rich K.
Title: Re: sealing wood arrows
Post by: Craig on April 29, 2012, 01:04:00 PM
I have been making them over 20 years and Use Zip Guard. Only need 2 coates. 1 over the stain then steel wool. crest and 1 over the crest. If you want them satin steel wool again. That is it. I can dip a dozen at a time and no bubbles. No smell. I have arrows that are 20 years old and still in perfect shape.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/Cbireley/photos285-1.jpg)
Title: Re: sealing wood arrows
Post by: Bill Leeming on April 29, 2012, 03:36:00 PM
Do you use Duco over the Minwax, Pro-Fin and Zip Guard?
Title: Re: sealing wood arrows
Post by: smoke1953 on April 29, 2012, 04:37:00 PM
Duco on the Minwax, haven't used the others.
Title: Re: sealing wood arrows
Post by: Craig on April 29, 2012, 07:55:00 PM
I use Fletch tite plantinum with the Zip Guard
Title: Re: sealing wood arrows
Post by: LookMomNoSights on April 29, 2012, 09:30:00 PM
Polyshades!
Title: Re: sealing wood arrows
Post by: luvnlongbow on April 30, 2012, 01:09:00 PM
I use tape to fletch. However for nocks and a drop on each end of the fletch I use Duco. No issues as of yet.
Title: Re: sealing wood arrows
Post by: Bjorn on April 30, 2012, 01:46:00 PM
Been using Raptor Dip for years with great results, no problems rain or shine and no smell. I expect my arrows to be bloodied and broken so rarely stain or crest. Duco works great for gluing fletching. I dull after the last coat to kill the gloss and wool between coats when I remember.
Title: Re: sealing wood arrows
Post by: Don_G on April 30, 2012, 03:18:00 PM
I've used MINWAX High Performance Wood Hardener on various wooden rods for years. This stuff soaks in and dries leaving the wood heavier, harder and tougher than it started. Never have used it on arrows, but I'd try it if I wanted stiffer, heavier shafts.

I made a PVC tube instead of the lightweight commercial ones. With a Schrader valve on one end you can pressurize after loading and filling. If you do a vaccuum soak first it works even better.  This drives the stuff deeper into the wood. It would give you an almost composite arrow after drying.

FWIW
Title: Re: sealing wood arrows
Post by: Craig on April 30, 2012, 05:02:00 PM
Here is my dip tank
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v462/Cbireley/001-7.jpg)