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Title: Elevated Rest
Post by: Sirius Black on April 27, 2012, 07:04:00 PM
Who prefers to shoot off an elevated rest? I have 2 very nice longbows, but have come to prefer my 2 recurves w/ NAP centerests. I have tried my recurves off the shelf, but like the NAP. Thanks!
Title: Re: Elevated Rest
Post by: Onlyaspike on April 27, 2012, 08:19:00 PM
I prefer to shoot off my NAP Flipper centerrest...I believe it gives me more consistant flight and it maybe a little more forgiving than straight off the shelf.
Title: Re: Elevated Rest
Post by: Sirius Black on April 27, 2012, 08:27:00 PM
Only-  One of my recurves is a Hoyt GM2. It has a 1/4" negative tiller, what's yours? I shoot 3 under, but got the bow pretty quiet. I like it.
Title: Re: Elevated Rest
Post by: koger on April 27, 2012, 08:35:00 PM
I have naps, wire flippers, bear weatherest and so on. Fred bear came up with the weatherest because of arrow flight issues. Most of my buddies, and I all shoot off elevated rests, get great arrow flight with a minimum of tuning,  and bows shoot about anything close to the  right spine, with 150-175 up front broadheads great, and 4 or 5" feathers great.
Title: Re: Elevated Rest
Post by: S C Mercer on April 27, 2012, 10:29:00 PM
I use a Bear Weather Rest on my Schafer Silvertip recurve.  Shoots arrows lazer beam straight and is very forgiving of any hand torque.  I also use plastic vanes vs feathers on my arrows with this set up.  Allows me to hunt in any weather without issues.   I trim the bottom of the rest to get it right on the shelf.  Gets the arrow closer to my hand which I am more comfortable with.  I learned this tip from Barry Wensel.  He said he and Paul Schafer used their bows set up this way and it worked flawlessly for them.  I couldn't argue with their results!!  ~Steve
Title: Re: Elevated Rest
Post by: Bjorn on April 28, 2012, 12:39:00 AM
I use a feather rest on some of my bows............Trap, who posts here makes a great one

(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q291/bjornweb/DSCN1611.jpg)

I have one on a new Schafer as well-works great
Title: Re: Elevated Rest
Post by: Brianlocal3 on April 28, 2012, 12:52:00 PM
I use a Hoyt hunter (black) on my Herters. The shelve was flat so I figured I couldn't shoot off the shelve, but now I know how to remedy that but stay with the elevated. I don't feel any less trad. But I still shoot feathers because I was getting kicks with vanes.
Title: Re: Elevated Rest
Post by: Hoyt on April 28, 2012, 01:29:00 PM
I started out with the Hoyt flipper style rest in the early 60's and still use them.
Title: Re: Elevated Rest
Post by: Gehrke145 on April 28, 2012, 02:26:00 PM
I shoot elevated rests on all my bows, with 5 inch vanes.
Title: Re: Elevated Rest
Post by: SilverTip on April 28, 2012, 08:28:00 PM
what SC said, Paul gave me my first Silvertip with a weather rest on it and I've never tried anything different. I shoot feathers but the arrows go straight and true. I've never even considered doing all that tuning stuff that drives folks crazy.
                   Billy
Title: Re: Elevated Rest
Post by: Steve O on April 29, 2012, 12:14:00 AM
I have never,   EVER had a bow shoot better off the shelf than off any kind of elevated rest.  Some shoot just dandy off the shelf, but I guarantee they will not shoot worse with a rest.
Title: Re: Elevated Rest
Post by: Tim on April 29, 2012, 08:45:00 AM
I agree Steve, some bows do tune very nicely off the shelf while others can be a bit more difficult.  My buddy Allen Shafer and I like to tinker around with different strings, rest materials, silencers etc. to see what setup gives us the most consistency.  We compare notes back and forth just for fun.   Both of us believe bare shaft tuning is the way to go to find the perfect shaft setup.   On my silvertip off the shelf I can get decent bare shaft results at 15 yards, but little changes in release will affect the flight, sometimes quite a bit.  With a simple Bear weather rest everything changes.  I consistently get perfect flight with a bare shaft out to 30 yards.  As they say, nothing but nock!   Once I fletch up a shaft I know I'm getting the best flight possible.   I only shoot 50 lbs so good straight arrow flight real does help in both accuracy and penetration.     :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Elevated Rest
Post by: Sirius Black on April 29, 2012, 08:58:00 AM
Thanks guys! Great feedback. I've noticed some recurves have a shorter sight window. If a weatherest were put on, there may not be much window. Has anyone had issue with this?
Title: Re: Elevated Rest
Post by: Tim on April 29, 2012, 09:00:00 PM
As mentioned, if you use a bear weather rest take and cut off the bottom part of the rest.  You will be cutting off about 1/4 of the arm that holds the arrow.  Put a piece of velcro on the shelf and than mount that rest right on top of the velcro.  You'll find that the arrow is only about 1/4 inch above the shelf.   By mounting this way you shouldn't run into much of arolem with the smaller sight windows.
Title: Re: Elevated Rest
Post by: Guss on April 29, 2012, 09:14:00 PM
Hey guys, have any close up pics of your Tip set up with the Bear weather rest ?
Thanks,Jr.
Title: Re: Elevated Rest
Post by: JV Rooster on April 29, 2012, 10:12:00 PM
anyone have a pic of the bear weather rest? I would like to see what it is. Thanks.
Title: Re: Elevated Rest
Post by: Bigriver on April 29, 2012, 10:48:00 PM
My curve is set up with one. Actually I have set up all my bows with them, I really like how they work.

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b58/Hallstead/osagewidowwannabe010.jpg)
Title: Re: Elevated Rest
Post by: usmc2444 on April 30, 2012, 01:40:00 PM
bjorn where did you get your feather rest cant find trap    thanks  stan
Title: Re: Elevated Rest
Post by: LYONEL on April 30, 2012, 04:02:00 PM
This is what i use a tooth brush rest virtually indestructable.

(http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd377/0419falcon/Snapbucket/FD05F455.jpg)    (http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd377/0419falcon/Snapbucket/DB1B693A.jpg)
Title: Re: Elevated Rest
Post by: Atennishu on April 30, 2012, 11:06:00 PM
I saw on another post a " feather " rest, looked pretty interesting,  I kinda like the "toothbrush" rest too,  pretty neat idea
Title: Re: Elevated Rest
Post by: Butts2 on June 08, 2012, 12:42:00 PM
T T T
Back with a question. Went ahead and put one on my Silvertip about a week ago. I have put 200-300 arrows on it since and of course launched them at my target. The vertical rubber piece on it has already rubbed almost clear off. SO, how often do you replace your Weather rest AND thanks SC Mercer, stand up TG'r
Title: Re: Elevated Rest
Post by: Bowwild on June 08, 2012, 12:45:00 PM
I've been shooting most of my bows off the shelf. However, in the past few months I've concluded that I get better arrow flight shooting off a "flipper" or "springy" type elevated rest.

By the way, since this moves the nock locator and my 3-under fingers up the string, this helps correct for split-finger tillered bows.

I prefer a berger button type springy rest but most wood riser bows aren't cut past center enough to use them. I usually use Flipper II arrow rests.  I don't think the Bear Weather rests are as forgiving and I have bought too many of them.
Title: Re: Elevated Rest
Post by: Archie on June 08, 2012, 12:48:00 PM
Rick, it sounds like you may be overspined.  I have never had a rest wear out from shooting, and shoot a lot of arrows.  If they get replaced, it is because it got snagged, saggy, or started coming off.  They eventually would wear out, and while they last a long time, they end up getting replaced for some other reason first.  I have shot about the same number of arrows (250-300) through a rest I put on a few weeks ago, and it still looks almost brand new.