Been considering a ILF riser for purchase but am concerned about some of the things Ive read on archery forums. Are these risers inherently noisier than a takedown?
Are they more difficult to quiet down?
Im not experienced in this type of archery any help would be appreciated for me to make an informed purchase.
I posted this on another thread about Morrison bows. Ive been going back and forth in my mind between a Daala(unsure what length) or a Morrison gen 3,19inch
DOULOS I HAVE A MORRISON 15" PHONELIC ILF RISER WITH HIS NEW STATIC TIP LIMBS. ZERO STRING SLAP ON THE LIMBS BUT THERE WAS A LIGHT NOISE COMING FROM THE LIMB POCKETS WHICH WAS CORRECTED BY A LITTLE FELT ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE LIMB AND A THIN COATING OF GREASE ON THE LIMB PIVOT. THIS BOW ALSO SHOOTS 190FPS + WITH STRING SILENCERS AND AT 9GPI WITH A 29 IN DRAW WITH FINGERS. DEADLY HUNTIN BOW AND NOW HAVE A GOOD COMBO OF SPEED AND STEALTH. YOU CANT GO WRONG WITH A MORRISON. :thumbsup:
Matching limb length to your draw length is very important in ILF as is overall bow length to keep finger pinch down, so riser length is also an important consideration. Being able to adjust tiller and poundage aids in tuning with the ILF. I have had some ILF risers that had some vibration at the limb bolt/brass sleeve, nothing one or two rubber O rings did not fix to snug things up. Other than that they are as quiet as my other bows once tuned. I prefer the DAS/Dalaa for their limb connection system over the ILF bushing, and I have both a DAS 17 and Morrison 19 gen 2. Switching bushings in the limbs takes just minutes so easy to interchange riser types.
So I would suggest you match your limb length to your draw length and choose riser length to make a comfortable shooting bow for your hunting/shooting conditions.
I have a Zipper 17" riser with Dryad Static recurve limbs. Wool puffs and a yarn wrap on both ends of the string.....It is almost silent. It seems to like about a 7 3/4 brace.
I do have one that squeaks a tiny bit. The info on the previous post will take care of that. Otherwise, they are no harder to quiet than any other bow.
I have a Morrison all phenolic17 inch with some Dryad and BF Extreme limbs
It's super quiet
Real fast and my fav bow right now
I've only shot ILF for the past 4 year, don't think I'll ever switch.
The metal riser seem to make a more noise than wood or phenolic. Dalaa has a rubber isolator that helps dampen vibration, leaving the main bolt and pin bolt that contact the metal.It is pretty easy to add rubber under the limb of ILF also yourself.
I will be able to provide the rubber Isolators for All Morrison ILF risers about a month.
Bob
I have a Morrison 17" wood riser with "Long" limbs. Pretty quiet with just yarn puffs. I noticed a tine bit of a "clack" when I was "breaking in" a new string that stretched enough that the brace height hit 6 3/4" - the lowest Bob recommended for my bow.
Otherwise no noise problems at all. Really sweet shooting bow actually.
I have a 15" Dryad Epic Riser with ACS CG longbow "long" limbs and it is a very quiet set up. It seems to be every bit as quiet as my one piece R/D bows. I am fanatical about quiet bows and this one is a keeper.
I have the Morrison Wood/phenolic 15in riser with some carbon foam olympic limbs... It is quiet as any recurve... and with some wool balls and padding the loops, she's deadly!!!
Have a 17" Morrison wood/phenolic riser and med Dryad Epic limbs and this bow is one quiet bow. Don't know where the bad rap on noise came from.
Bob, I will be watching for the release of the rubber isolators.
I know this thread is about a year old, but I am having some trouble getting a slight "tick" sound, which occurs at the shot, silenced with my Morrison ILF. I have the Mini 13, Dymalux and phenolic riser, foam core carbon recurve limbs (not static), with an SBD ultra string. The tick sounds almost like an aluminum arrow shaft being lightly tapped on the limb, and seems to be coming from the riser. Any thoughts, fellas?
Check limb butt clearance on riser, may need to sand it slightly to shorten, Also try tapping the riser listening to the limb bolts/brass sleeve.
I have owned at least 10 different ILF risers and 30-40 sets of limbs. Never had a problem getting them quiet. Each set-up is different and I have had to apply felt to limb ends and rubber isolators and so on. I have a Belcher first gen metal riser with a set of Border Hex-5H limbs and it is the quietest recurve I have ever owned. Did not have to do a thing other than velcro in the sring grooves and a set of bow hush string silencers. Shawn
I dont think mines any louder then my other bows. My titan with dryad epics was dead quiet and shock free. the titan with TT carbon/woods are louder and do have some kick but still not bad at all.
Haven't shot the Morrison but have seen that sound coming off a limb bolt that has a loose tightening screw -on an Excel - adding some bow wax to the screw & then tightening it down seemed to do the trick; btw for string slap on these guys have found that turning bolts in our out was as effective as wool wraps/ silencers - M
Oops - string wax not bow wax ...
I've only played with 3 ILF set-ups: Sky, Trad Tech, and Morrison.
The Morrison was the quietest for me.
ttt
Is the noise something that you alone are hearing or can a bystander hear it also?
I took the cheap way out with my ILF setup using a 21" Hoyt Excel riser and TT BB medium limbs and TT long longbow limbs making a 64" and 66" bow. I'm using a FF string, wrapped in wool at the ends and a set of Cat whiskers, very very quiet setups!
Have owned a black bear warf, a morrison, a dryad, and three tt risers. Other than the dryad, which caused me to sand the limb butts to allow the limbs to fit, I can't say any of the risers contributed to noise, in any way, when properly adjusted. Noticed some difference in limbs, but nothing new. Longbow limbs are quieter than recurves, and glass limbs are quieter than carbon, imo.
Your arrows aren't slapping the riser are they?
I recently switched from Dryad Long Longbow limbs to their new Legend ACS-RC recurve limbs and I can't believe the performance difference!! I do however notice clicking during every draw that wasn't there before. Any ideas on what it may be and how to eliminate it?
QuoteOriginally posted by StickSlinger74:
I recently switched from Dryad Long Longbow limbs to their new Legend ACS-RC recurve limbs and I can't believe the performance difference!! I do however notice clicking during every draw that wasn't there before. Any ideas on what it may be and how to eliminate it?
Check and see if it is string wax making the string stick to the string grooves in the limbs.
QuoteOriginally posted by Boomerang:
QuoteOriginally posted by StickSlinger74:
I recently switched from Dryad Long Longbow limbs to their new Legend ACS-RC recurve limbs and I can't believe the performance difference!! I do however notice clicking during every draw that wasn't there before. Any ideas on what it may be and how to eliminate it?
Check and see if it is string wax making the string stick to the string grooves in the limbs. [/b]
I checked and it's not this. I've got the yarn wraps where the string comes in contact with the limbs. Mike (Wingnut) says it may be coming from the brass collars on the limb bolts. Will check that as soon as I can.
Huntryk,
The click sound could be you need to raise your knock point - try 1/8" higher.
Asgeir
Huntryx. Sounds like your brass fitting is loose. Tighten it down with pliers or put some teflon tape under it. I got this advice from Wingnut @ dryad and it solved the problem. Hope it helps.
Thanks that sounds like it might be the problem will try it.
OK. The fitting is the receiver for the limb bolt? this is epoxied into the riser. Tape the bolt itself?
It should look like this on your limb
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